What sense does it make to draw up a contract, accept it, now want to renegotiate?
I know Floyd doesn't want to spit money with Shane Mosley, so why did he agree verbally?
Shane has PBF right where he wants him. He will get more money then he should, and its PBF's fault for agreeing so soon. There's no way PBF can back out of the fight, and I don't see Mosley budging much.
Fight will still happen May 1st.....But PBF will not be a happy camper.
I talked to Floyd and he's going to fight Shane. :boxing:
The best doesn't duck anyone!
War Mayweather!
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/02/03/the-fights-on-floyd-mayweather-has-signed-to-face-shane-mosley/
Floyd would get credit... Is actually Floyd fans who make it hard to give Floyd credit cuz they keep saying how bad of a fighter Shane is and how tailor made he is for Floyd... But, everybody else knows Shane is a legit top WW and would give Floyd credit...
They always do that to legit opponents of Floyd and make lesser opponents look like legit threats (JMM).
Flomos can't make up their minds.
But to be honest am anxious as well and people have the right to feel iffy about the situation, We have soooo many fights that has fallen through in the last 24 months over little things. I hope he signs it or that me done with supporting Mayweather.
I think he will sign... I don't see what other fight is out there for him... They want to do the Super Bowl thing so they have till Friday to sign....
Top Rank? How does Top Rank have a case against Money May?
Floyd never had a verbal agreement with Manny and Top Rank. They agreed to certain things, but they never agreed to fight on March 13. Manny or Floyd never went to the media and said they were going to fight on March 13.
Floyd and Mosley have done interviews telling the fans they're fighting on May 1st.
I sitll don't see how they have a case to go to court... Fights fall through all the time...
If the contract is signed by both fighters this week, they're going to start promoting the fight this weekend at the Superbowl. Shane is doing some promotion work for Reebok this weekend.
You should ask Shane people if they were really serious in doing a winner take all...
Considering that Floyd made 1m ppv fighting Marquez, Floyd can still make the same amount of money fighting someone else and giving whoever he wants a flat fee and getting all the PPV.Mosley simply doesnt deserve a good payday,he sits on his ass for 15months doing nothing.Some people put effort in their brand like Manny and Mayweather.If you dont have a power base go and find one.Mayweather took a risk doing dancing with the stars and training for a fight,wrestling matches,charity events,all those things add up.Just coming with your divorced ass (my apologies but that's all Shane has) and expecting a huge payday is wishful thinking.Life is not like that.
I dont doubt for once that Mosley is a great fighter.He just isnt a good businessman.Looking at Floyd's motives,Floyd has already said he fights for money not bragging rights.If Mosley is fighting for bragging rights like he claims he should lower the price.Floyd will fight Mosley and can fight Mosley.Just that Mosley is overpriced that all.If he lowers his bid price the fight will be on.
Floyd can fight Williams,Cintron,Berto for the WBC belt all these will be legitimate fights for a fraction of the money Mosley is asking for.If the truth be told Mosley is a hypocrite,he wanted to fight Manny for peanuts 'just to prove' and now he wants a pension fighting Mayweather?
Well the problem with that is that it looks like Williams and Cintron are fighting each other in April... Plus Williams and Berto are with Al Haymon just like Floyd... So they won't fight each other... So those names you mentioned pretty much won't work... So I ask again who else can he fight?
And, also you don't believe JMM helped a little with the PPV buys? He is Mexican and they did fight on Mexican holiday weekend you don't believe that helped just a little? Plus on 24/7 he did drink his own piss that had every mainstream media talking about it... You don't believe that helped the sales a little? Do you honestly believe Floyd did that mili by himself?
Right, I don't know where the TS got the whole renegotiation from... But, really they have till Friday to sign... Is not really a big deal IMO... But, you know people on here love to run with every little story...
But to be honest am anxious as well and people have the right to feel iffy about the situation, We have soooo many fights that has fallen through in the last 24 months over little things. I hope he signs it or that me done with supporting Mayweather.
his "advisers" wouldnt accept a verbal agreement without running it past their client first. Otherwise they all deserve to be fired.
With that being said if team Mosley files a lawsuit expect top rank to follow since they also reached a verbal contract in the may-pac negotiations.Top Rank? How does Top Rank have a case against Money May?
Floyd never had a verbal agreement with Manny and Top Rank. They agreed to certain things, but they never agreed to fight on March 13. Manny or Floyd never went to the media and said they were going to fight on March 13.
Floyd and Mosley have done interviews telling the fans they're fighting on May 1st.
Sounds gravy...If the contract is signed by both fighters this week, they're going to start promoting the fight this weekend at the Superbowl. Shane is doing some promotion work for Reebok this weekend.
Mosley is getting money he doesnt deserve in this case,I wouldnt sign it if I was Mayweather
loool last time i watch Floyd's fight i feel i was robbed, a chicken & boring fight. But with Mosley i feel that fight is worth-paying for.:friday:
Top Rank reneged on their contract because the blood tests were in the contract from the word go.
'In the US law, a contract can be valid even if it is not written down. Contracts can be enforced if it can be shown that the parties reached a clear understanding and agreement. e.g in 1984 the top Management of Getty Oil gave a verbal agreement to merge with Pennzoil.Then Texaco arrived with a higher bid and won the prize.Pennzoil sued and won that Texaco had broken up a valid contract.'Brealy,Myers and Allen.
Did Mayweather and Pacquioa have a valid contract and could Mayweather have sued?I assume all these negotiations are done by lawyers,why they never sued is difficult to know but it's not always easy to prove.
probably in the name of professionalism and diplomacy.
Even if a verbal agreement is broken it's almost always easier to re-negotiate than to take it to court.
Plus since there's only so many top fighters and top promotion companies they're still going to have to work with each other. And it's going to suck having to work with the guy you're getting sued by.
The PPV king is confident.
I did talk to Shane's people and they told me the fight is still on and to be patient. I'm just going to sit back and wait for this to play out.
Sounds gravy...
I saw the thread's headline and i thought there was an article which says Mayweather is looking to renegotiate, Just got in to work so i havent had anytime to check the net.
Last i heard was Mayweather hasnt signed the contract yet..And the superbowl is on sunday right??
Right, I don't know where the TS got the whole renegotiation from... But, really they have till Friday to sign... Is not really a big deal IMO... But, you know people on here love to run with every little story...
Thanks for the breaking news... Did he sound confident? Or did he stutter?The PPV king is confident.
I did talk to Shane's people and they told me the fight is still on and to be patient. I'm just going to sit back and wait for this to play out.
Mosley is getting money he doesnt deserve in this case,I wouldnt sign it if I was Mayweather
what kind of bullshit is this? a man who has been fighting his whole life and getting hammered in the head doesn't deserve that money for entertaining the world for aslong as he has?
fukk you
I don't know lol... I just know that there is still a lot of time to get this fight signed... I don't know what the rush is here...
I saw the thread's headline and i thought there was an article which says Mayweather is looking to renegotiate, Just got in to work so i havent had anytime to check the net.
Last i heard was Mayweather hasnt signed the contract yet..And the superbowl is on sunday right??
$15 million flat fee plus the back end of the PPV with gate fees is way too much for Shane.
A flat fee of $8-10 million, gate fees, and the back end of PPV is more than enough for Shane.
But, they already agreed to 15mil flat fee plus the back end of the PPV... and, that is it... And, to be honest we don't know what the PPV# that they have agreed upon... If they agreed to 1.5mil buys and the event only does 1.4 then Shane does not get anything from the PPV... But, that is beyond the point cuz Shane already signed for the 15mil flat... What other options does Floyd fight if he does not go through with this? That is my only question here that still has not been answered....
If Shane has done enough how come he made $2.6m fighting Margarito,the most feared man on the planet?How come Floyd was offered $8m to fight the same guy years before Floyd's stock had even risen?Heaven knows how much Mosley made fighting Cotto,maybe $1m.This guy has been in the game for years,surrounded himself with idiots and a biatch,got his money taken away and now he want $15m.Shane doesnt even sell fights.His last fight with Margarito people paid $25,for a World Championship fight?Amir Khan's tickets are more expensive yet Amir hasnt even fought nobody,that's like a price for a meal.
I dont think stupidity should ever be rewarded,that's robbery.Robbing Floyd to feed Shane.Remember when Shane was offered a rematch with Oscar,he stood to make over $10m,he chose to fight an unknown Winky Wright for $3m,what does that say about Shane?If I was Floyd I wouldnt want to share my brand with such a man,give him what he deserves,a flat $5m at the best and no share in ppv.He's a good boxer but a stupid one at the same time
Thats a bit harsh on Mosley.
Mayweather will be pissed
Mayweather will sign
Mayweather will slay shane in the 24/7 saying how he ducked him and doesnt deserve a pay day
Mayweather gives Shane a boxing lesson
We will still be where we are today because pac doesnt want drug test..the end
It all comes back to Pac... That does it, Pac is the face of boxing... All roads lead to Pac...
So if Floyd won't give Shane 15mil flat fee plus the back end of the PPV. And, decides not to fight Shane who does Floyd fight then?$15 million flat fee plus the back end of the PPV with gate fees is way too much for Shane.
A flat fee of $8-10 million, gate fees, and the back end of PPV is more than enough for Shane.