Sauerland works with the WADA/German NADA (random tests)...

Just want to tell you that I received some more details but can't reveal them as those will be used for an article which will be released about tomorrow by the boss... Sounds good bro...

I never heard of testing between 8-12 times less than 24 days before the fight...not by a respectable source...

They wanted 3-12 blood tests. All within an 8 week training camp. plus another immediately after the fight. You cant find a fighter in the world that's ever been blood tested 5x within an 8week training camp let alone 12. nor a fighter that's ever been blood tested immediately after a fight in the dressing room. And that includes arthur abraham. The random testing they are using in germany allows fighters to be routinely tested in between fights during their offtime. Which according to you nutjobs are useless and pointless. Link me to 12 Blood tests. Pac had NO PROBLEM with the number of tests. He had a problem with the cut off date. The futher away his cut off is the CLOSER his blood tests would probably be yet he still asked for 24 days. So that wasnt the issue.

How are they drastic? 3-5 Blood Tests. Drastic? Really? Shane is laughing at you and Pac right now. They wanted 3-12 blood tests. All within an 8 week training camp. plus another immediately after the fight. You cant find a fighter in the world that's ever been blood tested 5x within an 8week training camp let alone 12. nor a fighter that's ever been blood tested immediately after a fight in the dressing room. And that includes arthur abraham. The random testing they are using in germany allows fighters to be routinely tested in between fights during their offtime. Which according to you nutjobs are useless and pointless.

Wrong. Sauerland owns the US in terms of an anti doping policy. Germany does not. And the differences between the random testing they have already been doing there and the random drug testing Mayweather wants implemented are drastic. Are you an insider who knows all the details or why are you saying this...show me some evidence first...

Wrong. Sauerland owns the US in terms of an anti doping policy. Germany does not. And the differences between the random testing they have already been doing there and the random drug testing Mayweather wants implemented are drastic. How are they drastic? 3-5 Blood Tests. Drastic? Really? Shane is laughing at you and Pac right now.

Why you would always have to bring up Mayweather, Pacquiao? I talk about the US local commisions anti-doping policy which is nearly non-existant...the US Boxing need a national governing body to oversee and set up such a policy...going for a clean sport... Germany owns the US in terms of an anti-doping policy... Wrong. Sauerland owns the US in terms of an anti doping policy. Germany does not. And the differences between the random testing they have already been doing there and the random drug testing Mayweather wants implemented are drastic.

Yea well if you do find out let me know... Send me a message or even bump this thread... Just want to tell you that I received some more details but can't reveal them as those will be used for an article which will be released about tomorrow by the boss...

You know what Tom, for this to become popular in the states. The WADA/NADA would have to catch an American boxer doping. Then the current US Anti-doping would look bad cause a foreign agency had to catch them instead of the US agency. Anyways I'm all for the random test.

there is no owning here. Even with the random blood/urine testing they have no fighter has ever been subjected to as many blood tests during training camp as the pac/floyd match intended to have. Nor has any fighter doing the random testing they are doing ever been subjected to a blood test so close to fight night or immediately after the fight as the pac/floyd match intended to have. Why you would always have to bring up Mayweather, Pacquiao? I talk about the US local commisions anti-doping policy which is nearly non-existant...the US Boxing need a national governing body to oversee and set up such a policy...going for a clean sport... Germany owns the US in terms of an anti-doping policy...

...for 1 year now. Sauerland is the ONLY promotion world wide who does this... ...WADA/NADA rules call for both random blood/urine testing... Wilfried Sauerland said in an interview that the Americans (promotions) don't take drug testing very serious... Every boxer who fights on a SE promotion has to sign a contract which allows the WADA/NADA to take those tests... I smell an owning here... there is no owning here. Even with the random blood/urine testing they have no fighter has ever been subjected to as many blood tests during training camp as the pac/floyd match intended to have. Nor has any fighter doing the random testing they are doing ever been subjected to a blood test so close to fight night or immediately after the fight as the pac/floyd match intended to have.

Local commissions in the US always stands above those sanctioning bodies and there will always be one to go along with them...those abc bodies would be stupid to do so as they would lose a lot of promoters...it's all about the local US boxing commissions... Sorry, but that's missing the point. The local commisions doesn't have to be involved at all. My suggestion is that as soon as a fighter gets a top 10 ranking he acknowledges that he is susceptible to year round random testing. The local commision has no say as the testing that is conducted is out-of-competition testing. This could easily be set up by one or more of the alphabet boys. They just need to show a willingness to fight the problem and throw some money after it.

Yea well if you do find out let me know... Send me a message or even bump this thread... yeah, there doesn't seem to be much interest between boxing fans in this topic as only a few discussing this important topic...I'll let you know...

That's what I'm thinking but I'll try to figure out (I'll call someone tomorrow who should varify if that's the case or not). Yea well if you do find out let me know... Send me a message or even bump this thread...

Really? Thanks that is good to hear... Wait about the Kessler-Ward fight? I guess Ward didn't do random testing cuz it was promoted by Goosen? That's what I'm thinking but I'll try to figure out (I'll call someone tomorrow who should varify if that's the case or not).

I betcha that Sauerland will have a random test system installed for Ward if he meets Abraham in the tourney...the fight will be most likely in the states (and the finals won't be in Oakland if Ward and a SE promoted fighter would reach the final but on the Eastcoast, most probably NY MSG). All fights being promoted by Sauerland Event demand for random drug testing, even for the Super Six... Really? Thanks that is good to hear... Wait about the Kessler-Ward fight? I guess Ward didn't do random testing cuz it was promoted by Goosen?

It's up to the sanctioning bodies IMO. If the alphabet boys would like to be real 'governing' bodies, then they should mandate obligatory random testing for all ranked fighters. If the fighters will not commit themselves to such a scheme they should lose their ranking. It's obvious in its simplicity really. :) It could be financed via sanctioning fee. Local commissions in the US always stands above those sanctioning bodies and there will always be one to go along with them...those abc bodies would be stupid to do so as they would lose a lot of promoters...it's all about the local US boxing commissions...

Do you know if they are doing it in the super 6? Because I think it would be interesting in case AA fight Ward... Due to Ward connection with Victor Conte.. I betcha that Sauerland will have a random test system installed for Ward if he meets Abraham in the tourney...the fight will be most likely in the states (and the finals won't be in Oakland if Ward and a SE promoted fighter would reach the final but on the Eastcoast, most probably NY MSG). All fights being promoted by Sauerland Event demand for random drug testing, even for the Super Six...

Sauerland practically has it's own boxing commission (the Austrian Boxing Federation - FVA), that's why it's easy to work out and introduce a whole anti-doping policy...and he pays a lot of money for it. The US has one big problem - local boxing commissions which means a conflict of interests...if there would be 1 big governing body to oversee and control all minor boxing commissions, introducing a policy like Sauerland has would be easy and promotions would have to play by those rules...BUT this will never happen as every of the 40+ like regional commissions do it's own thing and is ruled by lobbyists (the promotions and their "friends")...the US has always done it's own thing and this won't change in that case... It's up to the sanctioning bodies IMO. If the alphabet boys would like to be real 'governing' bodies, then they should mandate obligatory random testing for all ranked fighters. If the fighters will not commit themselves to such a scheme they should lose their ranking. It's obvious in its simplicity really. :) It could be financed via sanctioning fee.

Sauerland practically has it's own boxing commission (the Austrian Boxing Federation - FVA), that's why it's easy to work out and introduce a whole anti-doping policy...and he pays a lot of money for it. The US has one big problem - local boxing commissions which means a conflict of interests...if there would be 1 big governing body to oversee and control all minor boxing commissions, introducing a policy like Sauerland has would be easy and promotions would have to play by those rules...BUT this will never happen as every of the 40+ like regional commissions do it's own thing and is ruled by lobbyists (the promotions and their "friends")...the US has always done it's own thing and this won't change in that case... Do you know if they are doing it in the super 6? Because I think it would be interesting in case AA fight Ward... Due to Ward connection with Victor Conte..