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this is the way it shouldve been from the start.
olympic style or traditional style wont change reality.
this is how its been done ever since, and nothing got passed it.
had this been the case, the superfight wouldve happened.
come to think of it, i would like to think of all mayweathers deals
gone bad as a virtual loss on his record.
because he can't make a fight happen by being a man.
instead he opens his mouth and let it do the fighting,
irresponsibly destroying people's reputation, preying on
the majority who cannot see through his motives.
(just my opinion).
Shane Mosley has never tested positive. NSAC < USADA
oh now USADA is more credible than NSAC?? NSAC have found more drug users than USADA in history, check the facts stupids
Doesn't change anything.
doesnt change anything or u refuse to believe?? i guess the truth is too much for ur retarded brain, GTFOH from boxing scene and join TMZ or something
Then, why didn't he agreed to do it?
he never refused an official test.
he just didn't agree with mayweathers terms.
it wasn't that he would never agree to have it done on him.
Shane Mosley has never tested positive. NSAC < USADA
yup, end of thread.
Ironically, the substances Mosley was using (Tetrahydrogestrinone) is only detected through urine tests. link
ravishing=REACHING, of epic proportions
Explain how I'm reaching though? Nobody on here can explain why Floyd is demanding tests from Pac (which he's never done with any fighter he's ever fought big or small) when Pac himself has never tested positive for anything in his career.
So tell me what's reaching, believing what the media and Mayweather's blew out of proportion, or believing Pacquiao is simply standing his ground and continuing to fight another top level opponent? Why does one outweigh the other?
and again...why can't anyone answer me when explaining how steroids helped Fernando Vargas?
Obviously you haven't read the interview with Don Catlin, he said there's peds that can leave the body in hours.
I mean then what do you want? LOL then don't watch sports anymore. Because if they're going to use something that's undetected in hours, they're obviously not going to take blood right before you fight, so for all we know Floyd could be doping up to right?
It's just dumb, because in the end, doping doesn't make you a better fight by any means...ask Fernando Vargas.
To me, Floyd was playing head games, and it back fired with one guy still fighting and the other is under the microscope to who he'll be fighting next which at 2nd best won't be Mosley.
Then, why didn't he agreed to do it?
It's a thing of principality. If Pacquiao was balking all the way through with blood testing, then it's much easier to look at Pacquiao in a different light, but we all know that's not the case. A lot of this has to do with egos, because whether people want to believe it or not, Floyd isn't the only fighter now who calling the shots and that in itself has made Floyd go on the defensive a lot dating back to last Summer when the potential fight was in the air. Floyd demanded extensive drug testing for the 1st time in his entire career against someone who's NEVER tested positive nor was there ever any suspicion. Nobody with a single bit of intelligence and knowing Floyd Mayweather NEVER once thought of all of this as head games on Mayweather's part?
Even if it's a 24 day window, no DRs, athletes, or anyone have confirmed any specific PEDs that would disappear or not be noticed in urine or blood within any amount of time that's been mentioned. Pacquiao wanted a 30 day window, they dropped to 24, Floyd wanted 14. It's not as if Pac wasn't trying to compromise, but by him standing his ground he's automatically looked as suspicious. But that's simply just one convenient way at looking at it, because again...everyone who's accusing Pacquiao of doping up don't even know what they're supposed to find nor are there any prior smoking guns that would make someone believe that. But it's an easy way to make Floyd seem like Pacquiao's trying to hide something, right? Of course!!! Because Floyd's mind games are working, but it's not preventing Pacquiao from sayin, "**** this...You ain't running shit" and is still fighting a top fighter under a big stage which contrary to what people are saying here, will still sell a good amount of PPVs. So in the end, who's really hurting here? The #1 fighter who people are going to see regardless, or the former #1 fighter who the only fighters people wanna see him in the ring with is either Pac or Mosley...and neither fight will happen in March or April.
Come March time, we'll see who's fights will be held with more anticipation.
Obviously you haven't read the interview with Don Catlin, he said there's peds that can leave the body in hours.
Even if it's a 24 day window, no DRs, athletes, or anyone have confirmed any specific PEDs that would disappear or not be noticed in urine or blood within any amount of time that's been mentioned. Pacquiao wanted a 30 day window, they dropped to 24, Floyd wanted 14. It's not as if Pac wasn't trying to compromise, but by him standing his ground he's automatically looked as suspicious. But that's simply just one convenient way at looking at it, because again...everyone who's accusing Pacquiao of doping up don't even know what they're supposed to find nor are there any prior smoking guns that would make someone believe that. But it's an easy way to make Floyd seem like Pacquiao's trying to hide something, right? Of course!!! Because Floyd's mind games are working, but it's not preventing Pacquiao from sayin, "**** this...You ain't running shit" and is still fighting a top fighter under a big stage which contrary to what people are saying here, will still sell a good amount of PPVs. So in the end, who's really hurting here? The #1 fighter who people are going to see regardless, or the former #1 fighter who the only fighters people wanna see him in the ring with is either Pac or Mosley...and neither fight will happen in March or April.
Come March time, we'll see who's fights will be held with more anticipation.
The only reason they dropped to 24 is because it was exposed that he took a test 24 days before the Hatton fight... they ain't tried to make a deal it was just like they looked like complete idiots after this came out dude...
But who cares anymore... the fight is dead...
Mayweather will beat Mosley and will take the only real good match up that Pacquiao has left away (Bradley and all the others aren't on the level of Mosley now)... Mosley will take Olympic testing and Pacquiao will sooner or later have to agree to it too... and then we have our fight
Why in the good f.uck should he have to? Is floyd a commisioner now? There is absolutely f.uck all wrong with the testing as it is and this whole sorry episode was brought about because Floyds classless cuntbag of a dad felt threatened by what he saw in the Cotto fight. This whole issue is complete and utter bollocks and was created in its entirety by Floyds camp. This shit was totally avoidable.
:lol1: There's nothing wrong with a test that can/has been passed by cheaters?
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this is the way it shouldve been from the start.
olympic style or traditional style wont change reality.
this is how its been done ever since, and nothing got passed it.
had this been the case, the superfight wouldve happened.
come to think of it, i would like to think of all mayweathers deals
gone bad as a virtual loss on his record.
because he can't make a fight happen by being a man.
instead he opens his mouth and let it do the fighting,
irresponsibly destroying people's reputation, preying on
the majority who cannot see through his motives.
(just my opinion).
I ain't expected it anything different... he always was clean so why not this time.
I also think that he would have been clean even with Olympic testing... but we won't get to see that
24 day window.
Even if it's a 24 day window, no DRs, athletes, or anyone have confirmed any specific PEDs that would disappear or not be noticed in urine or blood within any amount of time that's been mentioned. Pacquiao wanted a 30 day window, they dropped to 24, Floyd wanted 14. It's not as if Pac wasn't trying to compromise, but by him standing his ground he's automatically looked as suspicious. But that's simply just one convenient way at looking at it, because again...everyone who's accusing Pacquiao of doping up don't even know what they're supposed to find nor are there any prior smoking guns that would make someone believe that. But it's an easy way to make Floyd seem like Pacquiao's trying to hide something, right? Of course!!! Because Floyd's mind games are working, but it's not preventing Pacquiao from sayin, "**** this...You ain't running shit" and is still fighting a top fighter under a big stage which contrary to what people are saying here, will still sell a good amount of PPVs. So in the end, who's really hurting here? The #1 fighter who people are going to see regardless, or the former #1 fighter who the only fighters people wanna see him in the ring with is either Pac or Mosley...and neither fight will happen in March or April.
Come March time, we'll see who's fights will be held with more anticipation.
It actually picks up a lot more than what blood is actually going to pick up. The thing is, not even Floyd knows what to look for. If Pacquiao denied giving blood at all, then I can understand. But he's agreed to several blood exams and if you're someone who's using PEDs that can be found in blood, do you really believe they're using a substance that a 14 day window is not going to show especially considering there would be a blood test immediately after the fight?
Issue is dead to me already. I guarantee when they do finally fight, this blood testing won't even be a cause for concern. Mark my words...
Then, why didn't he agreed to do it?
It actually picks up a lot more than what blood is actually going to pick up. The thing is, not even Floyd knows what to look for. If Pacquiao denied giving blood at all, then I can understand. But he's agreed to several blood exams and if you're someone who's using PEDs that can be found in blood, do you really believe they're using a substance that a 14 day window is not going to show especially considering there would be a blood test immediately after the fight?
Issue is dead to me already. I guarantee when they do finally fight, this blood testing won't even be a cause for concern. Mark my words...
24 day window.
lmao...pactards still believing a piss test can catch it all.
It actually picks up a lot more than what blood is actually going to pick up. The thing is, not even Floyd knows what to look for. If Pacquiao denied giving blood at all, then I can understand. But he's agreed to several blood exams and if you're someone who's using PEDs that can be found in blood, do you really believe they're using a substance that a 14 day window is not going to show especially considering there would be a blood test immediately after the fight?
Issue is dead to me already. I guarantee when they do finally fight, this blood testing won't even be a cause for concern. Mark my words...
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