If Floyd turned down Manny, I think

Floyd agreed to: Purse split gloves weight (he wanted 154) 10 mill per lb over 147 Manny agreed to: *crickets* you blind muppet. :poke: Floyd asked for something that will be implemented in the sport in the near future, random blood testing. And two of the most popular fighters in the sport couldn't be an example of that...well one was all for it and the other one said NO, contradicting everything he's been preaching about.

i wonder what did the real soldiers in the field react when fraud said that...

Yes steroid testing, obviously testing for Roids is an outrageous demand in boxing, so says Team Pacquaio. it is when it comes from a fighter trying to be the commission. drug testing is already done, so if thats not good enough for floyd all of a sudden (even tho it was fine for his last 40 fights) then thats his problem. hes even got his mandatory musts in a smaller fighter. isnt it funny tho, as soon as a real threat comes along to floyd, he avoids it, just like he did with margarito, mosley, cotto etc..... this is why this man has next to no fans and has to appeal for them on US tv as if he were a "soldier" lol!

Purse split - pac agreed to go down to 50/50 , he is the ppv king gloves - gloves at 147 is 8 oz weight (he wanted 154) - pac wants 140 , mayweather 154, they go to the middle 10 mill per lb over 147 - because mayweather is a cheater I've been over this with others in this thread But it seems we are back at the beginning. Ah, the magic of internet forums

Floyd agreed to: Purse split gloves weight (he wanted 154) 10 mill per lb over 147 Manny agreed to: *crickets* you blind muppet. :poke: Purse split - pac agreed to go down to 50/50 , he is the ppv king gloves - gloves at 147 is 8 oz weight (he wanted 154) - pac wants 140 , mayweather 154, they go to the middle 10 mill per lb over 147 - because mayweather is a cheater

If Floyd DID turn down many.. let me see. Manny's reputation would be untarnished, check. Mayweather would still be viewed as a ducker, check. No unneeded lawsuits for Mayweathers and GBP, check. And what the hell, boxing wouldn't be as muffed up as it is now. Floyd would've (could've, should've) saved himself much trouble and lambasting when he turned it down and said that he'd be fighting the winner of mosley-berto, a good way to start off in 2010, then he should resume his fight with pac on Q4 2010.

Floyd rejected every requests that Team Manny demanded, he didn't had any right to ask for Olympic random drug testing since he didn't agreed to any of the requests demanded by team Pacquiao. Manny wanted to made the fight happens since the day they started negotiation. Floyd clearly ducked Manny with his excuses for not agreeing to any of Manny's requests. Team Floyd are all liars, frauds, and egomaniacs. Team Manny are all 100% honest people, whom has never told any lies. i smell......shit. Team mayweather had all the right in the world to accuse Manny pacquaio of drug test. a) Pac annihilated Hatton and ODLH better than floyd b) Pac didn't duck Cotto and made history - which floyd wouldn't do c) Pac is willing to fight Top WWs - which floyd will never do d) Mayweather Sr and Malinaggi are the most intelligent people in the world and know without question Pac is on roids. e) No Positive tests = Your Absolutely Guilty f) You won't take blood test 24 days before a fight = Your Guilty g) Floyd wants an even playing field - wait wtf happen his previous fight? h) Floyd will not fight an Elite Competitor - GUAREN-****ING-TEED i) boxing fans aren't the most logical individuals so fooling them especially since floyd fools them already isn't a daunting task to make them easily believe someone is on roids j) holy crap i could go on

Pac/Clottey won't do 400,000 buys. As you said, Pac cannot carry a PPV by himself. i disagree with that unless floyd fights the same night... if he does 400K seems about right... americans r gonna tune into floyd... plain and simple... I will buy both though and record pacs fight and watch it after may's... party at my house here in columbus boys!!

Yeah.. I feel the same way. Pac should have just cleared his name even if unfairly accused. I don't understand why he didn't. Anyone at the pinnacle of any sport is gonna catch alot of accusations like that. Look at baseball with Albert Pujols. They were constantly accusing him of juicing so one day he just said, well test me right now, and they did and he was clean. Manny should just handle them in stride like Pujols and prove them wrong, not all this MESS. It just makes him look guilty I agree i agree! he may be wrongly accused but in this day and age of juicing in sports he looks like a cheater just because he refused... if u r an athlete and your name is brought up by anyone of cheating wouldn't u do exactly what pujols did? I wouldn't want my career and accomplishments look fraudulent if someone wrongly accused me... I would go out of my way to say FUUCK YOU!

pac cheating on his wife = guilty(there is proof) pac doping= not guilty(no proof) Was there any proof of the most athletes whom confessed of using steroid even when people were suspected them of doing so without any proof? Bottom line is, if he can cheated on his wife who he has been with and shared his lives with, he can do the same thing to his fans. No one knows who the real Manny Pacquiao is except the people whom are close to him, when the media is not around him, we don't know if he is a complete different person. In my book, all athletes are 50% innocent, and 50% guilty. There are no angels, and Manny Pacquiao is certainly isn't one.

wtf, dogg? you rarely post? keep it that way. http://bestsmileys.com/lol/5.gif

It doesnt make him inhuman. it doesnt make him infallible or mistake free. The same way that Floyd may be blessed with all the talent in the world....doesnt make him any less of a douche. Manny pacquiao may believe he's on whatever type of quest from god he may believe.....doesnt make him a superhero. It's those flaws in both guys that make them endearing to their fans.....the same way spiderman and batman are more endearing to comic fans because of their human flaws than a superman. Good points... especially about comic characters, I hadn't thought of that. But I look at it more about who sets higher expectations. Floyd runs around and says he's the best fighter in boxing, so, this naturally sets the fans' expectations very high as to who he should fight, and they go over his resume with a fine toothed comb etc.. If he didn't claim this, they wouldn't do that, right? right. Likewise with the moral thing from Manny. He claims righteousness, he claims moral high ground over Floyd, and yet acts pretty much the same as him in contract negotiation. If Manny didn't try to act like he is heaven's avatar then I probably wouldn't be bitching. As much.

the american public is not going to eat up this fight....clottey's a nobody. manny CANNOT carry a ppv by himself. but lets say by some struck of luck, this fight does mayweather-marquez numbers.....manny would be looking at about 12 million. compare that to 40.... :nonono: Pac/Clottey won't do 400,000 buys. As you said, Pac cannot carry a PPV by himself.

If a fighter asks for testings that are unheard of to "level" the playing field, it means he don't want none. it's that simple.

BS. This is the same guy who cheated on his wife, it's not that hard for most boxing fans to assumed he's hiding something even if there are no proof. The guy is not as innocent as most of his fans thinks he is. which is my underlying point. Floyd appears to be the more honest of the two right now, which blows my fukkin mind. At least he is up front about his nature, whereas Manny still tries to play the aggrieved and wronged saint angle to the hilt.. talk about beating a dead horse

Because Pac claims righteousness that Floyd does not. Pac even said that he had a visitation from an angel, or God, or whatever, and was told his arm would be divinely powered as long as he stayed worthy of it. This places a higher burden on his morality than Mayweather's wouldn't you say? It doesnt make him inhuman. it doesnt make him infallible or mistake free. The same way that Floyd may be blessed with all the talent in the world....doesnt make him any less of a douche. Manny pacquiao may believe he's on whatever type of quest from god he may believe.....doesnt make him a superhero. It's those flaws in both guys that make them endearing to their fans.....the same way spiderman and batman are more endearing to comic fans because of their human flaws than a superman.

well ill tell u one thing, if im a fighter and I think for the slighest second my opponent might be doping, im not getting in the ring with him.... plain and simple... this isnt a basketball or baseball game... this is hand to hand combat which damages fighters health and future or even takes their lives... its a simple fucccking blood test!!!! i honestly cant see how any of you overlook that your hero looks like a user in the eyes of millions now over a stupid azz blood test... blows my god damn mind Yeah.. I feel the same way. Pac should have just cleared his name even if unfairly accused. I don't understand why he didn't. Anyone at the pinnacle of any sport is gonna catch alot of accusations like that. Look at baseball with Albert Pujols. They were constantly accusing him of juicing so one day he just said, well test me right now, and they did and he was clean. Manny should just handle them in stride like Pujols and prove them wrong, not all this MESS. It just makes him look guilty I agree

BS. This is the same guy who cheated on his wife, it's not that hard for most boxing fans to assumed he's hiding something even if there are no proof. The guy is not as innocent as most of his fans thinks he is. amen!!! green k

Because Pac claims righteousness that Floyd does not. Pac even said that he had a visitation from an angel, or God, or whatever, and was told his arm would be divinely powered as long as he stayed worthy of it. This places a higher burden on his morality than Mayweather's wouldn't you say? BS. This is the same guy who cheated on his wife, it's not that hard for most boxing fans to assumed he's hiding something even if there are no proof. The guy is not as innocent as most of his fans thinks he is.

why wouldnt they be morally even??? they're both human. Because Pac claims righteousness that Floyd does not. Pac even said that he had a visitation from an angel, or God, or whatever, and was told his arm would be divinely powered as long as he stayed worthy of it. This places a higher burden on his morality than Mayweather's wouldn't you say?