My last thread on Mayweather - Pacquiao and OST.

So what I'm saying is, Pacquiao knows he's more likely to be suspected even if he's clean.

It's a guy that just wrote in his article that the USADA stated the urine testing is sufficient in detecting HGH. I know it is a guy just like me and you. No one special. Look at the top of the report it says contributed by Kevin Riley. He quoted two people in the article but it is his opinion just like yours and mine w/ spin.

How can that help. Look at this comment from the article: Thank you, but I'm just a guy with an opinion. I wish I was a journalist - Kevin by Kevin Riley So the guy that wrote this is just that, a guy that wrote it. It's a guy that just wrote in his article that the USADA stated the urine testing is sufficient in detecting HGH.

If Khan is exactly on the same diet as Ariza says, then why is he less toned? Do you not think it is genetics? Khan always had the speed and some power, but poor defense and movement. Now that Roach, Ariza and the sparring at the wild card has happened, Khan is much stronger and fitter. Khan can beat Prescott now IMO. He is a ebtter fighter who holds his hands up more. By adding tools to your game, you ofcoruse get better. Pacquaio was a left handed fighter only and use to lose a lot of weight and rehydrate 105 of his bodyweight. Waterweight will help him not feel too tired and exhausted, but it's still 10%. Now at 144 he only went up 5lbs which is only 3%. I know that I would feel great only putting on 5lbs as opposed to 13lbs in ONE night which will make me feel bloated. Having 2 strong hands is double having one, but in boxing it meakes a huge difference, maybe more than 50% infact because it's so hard to defend against. Ofcourse you will have a better chance of hurting people. Pac also faced offensive fighters which makes it easier for him. I noticed that a lot of fans have stopped criticising Pac's opponents now, but they all had flaws if we use our memory. Pac beat good fighters but they play more into his hands aswell as him getting better.

This might be helpful http://bleacherreport.com/articles/321178-olympic-tests-have-never-detected-hgh-in-an-athlete-usada-backs-urine :boxing: How can that help. Look at this comment from the article: Thank you, but I'm just a guy with an opinion. I wish I was a journalist - Kevin by Kevin Riley So the guy that wrote this is just that, a guy that wrote it.

You know, say for example I'm a drug dealer and word got around, and the police were on to me, I'd lay low of course, but Pacquiao and his team are constantly pushing for these long cut off dates. Instead of laying low, Pacquiao and his team are looking to slip one in. Anyway, watch where I'm gonna get at. It's gonna get interesting here... I strongly believe that Pacquiao has been too dependent on w/e PEDs he's taking. And say for example he got off of them, there could be some serious consequences man. His performance/ physique isn't gonna be the same and people will take notice, ALOT of people. I mean, THIS IS HUGE. What I'm saying is, I get the vibe that Pacquiao NEEDS to be on it because he probably can no longer function too well without them. Has anyone asked themselves "Why does Pacquiao want to slip one through the cracks?" because I have, listen... People have to ask themselves "Why these long cut off dates?!". It's because Pacquiao knows chances are he can get caught, and say for example he doesn't use any sort of PED, people will suspect him anyway; not because he's clean but because he won't perform at the high level he has been performing at. His physique/ performance isn't gonna look the same and Pacquiao knows all this. Pacquiao's mind set is "I go in clean, people would more likely suspect me". Keywords: More likely. This is what I strongly believe people... Take Brock Lesnar for example, http://stupidcelebrities.net/wp-content/brock-lesnar1.jpg http://www.jlcauvin.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/brock20lesnar20-202.jpg Anyway, this is my last thread on all this. What evidence are you basing your assumption on again?

Read Conte's recent article. Hate to repeat myself. there isn't any test that can detect HGH. urine test detects EPO.

Ok ok, I'll give you guys the benefit of the doubt. Please tell me what drug can Pac take that: 1. Can be cycled within the 24 day window and will have a significant affect on Pac. 2. Won't show up on any urine tests during that period of time? Read Conte's recent article. Hate to repeat myself.

Ok ok, I'll give you guys the benefit of the doubt. Please tell me what drug can Pac take that: 1. Can be cycled within the 24 day window and will have a significant affect on Pac. 2. Won't show up on any urine tests during that period of time? nah man...its not a drug....Pac bought it from the same guy who sold jack the magic bean stalk bean.

Ok ok, I'll give you guys the benefit of the doubt. Please tell me what drug can Pac take that: 1. Can be cycled within the 24 day window and will have a significant affect on Pac. 2. Won't show up on any urine tests during that period of time?

see..if manny takes the test and comes out clean..we wouldnt have to wonder anymore..but he will be questioned for years to come Agreed. They made a simple request a big deal.

please provide PROOF that pac is on PEDs or STFU. Calm down, last thread man.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345793 pac taking supplements , see thread

1 bloodtest before the initial press conference, another one 24 days before the fight, then another right after the fight and with random urinalysis through out the lead up of the fight.. Holy shit do u still think he's hiding something?? And what sane man would even attempt to cheat with that kinds of testing?? And again i haven't mentioned that pac doesn't even have to go thru all this because he has no history of anything.. If u can't see thru floyd's games man i dont know.. If you're a Pac fan that's the difference between you and a Floyd fan. You see logic while the other doesn't. What sane man would even attempt to cheat in an event as huge as this and with all eyes watching? I don't even bother to read details about testing methods, schedules, or any of that sort. It's completely black and white to me. No grays. This is the first time I've heard something like this in boxing: If you're that good, you must be using steroids. Pacquiao's refusing the tests to me is completely irrelevant. It could happen to anybody but my instant reaction would be. So?

You know, say for example I'm a drug dealer and word got around, and the police were on to me, I'd lay low ofcourse, but Pacquiao and his team are constantly pushing for these long cut off dates. Instead of laying low, Pacquiao and his team are looking to slip one in. Anyway, watch where I'm gonna get at. It's gonna get interesting here... I strongly believe that Pacquiao has been too dependent on w/e PEDs he's taking. And say for example he got off of them, there could be some serious consequences man. His performance/ physique isn't gonna be the same and people will take notice, ALOT of people. I mean, THIS IS HUGE. What I'm saying is, I get the vibe that Pacquiao NEEDS to be on it because he probably can no longer function too well without them. Has anyone asked themselves "Why does Pacquiao want to slip one through the cracks?" because I have, listen... People have to ask themselves "Why these long cut off dates?!". It's because Pacquiao knows chances are he can get caught, and say for example he doesn't use any sort of PED, people will suspect him anyway; because he won't perform at the high level he has been performing at. His physique/ performance isn't gonna look the same and Pacquiao knows all this. Pacquiao's mind set is "I go in clean, people would more likely suspect me". Keywords: More likely. This is what I strongly believe people... Take Brock Lesnar for example, http://stupidcelebrities.net/wp-content/brock-lesnar1.jpg http://www.jlcauvin.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/brock20lesnar20-202.jpg Anyway, this is my last thread on all this. please provide PROOF that pac is on PEDs or STFU.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345793 Floyd-USADA conspiracy Urine Test can detect HGH says USADA

Brock Lesnar is the man.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345793

I just dont know Why any professional athlete wouldnt want to do Random blood test. you feel its right for any fighter to ask for blood tests because they have a feeling? what would the sport be like if fighters have that power? fighters will accuse one another if one declines. if a fighter loses then he will say he was on steroids because no blood tests were done. this will create more problems than resolve anything. the best thing is if the commission agrees on a certain date where all fights from that day on have to take those tests. simply choosing a fighter because of a feeling and no evidence is wrong and damaging.

his legacy is shattered NO DOUBT not at all, mayweathers bullshit exposed: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345793