Explain This Away Pactards

Agree, yet Pactards, DON´t understand, in spanish it´s "El que nada debe nada teme"...If he doesn´t have anything to hide this shouldn´t even be an ISSUE...It would be already signed, not the other way around. What´s wrong with extra tests to secure FAIR PLAY... PAC should accept and win the fight to make a statement..not file a lawsuit ask for public apologies and maybe jeopardize the fight. Point your fingers to your idol son. Popeye is just a cartoon character. Believing that ped shit will make you superhuman is like believing Elvis is still alive. You people's credibility is nil, nada, zero. Floyd will continue to be regarded as an all-time ducker. That's reality.

There is a precedent. Arthur Abraham just went through the same tests as part of the Super Six Tournament. He never offered any resistance nor filed any lawsuits, did he? Agree, yet Pactards, DON´t understand, in spanish it´s "El que nada debe nada teme"...If he doesn´t have anything to hide this shouldn´t even be an ISSUE...It would be already signed, not the other way around. What´s wrong with extra tests to secure FAIR PLAY... PAC should accept and win the fight to make a statement..not file a lawsuit ask for public apologies and maybe jeopardize the fight.

Can Team Pacquiao which includes all the Pactards here please explain this link: http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/13/pacquiao-would-welcome-random-drug-test/ I guess it was OK then to have Olympic Style Drug Testing and not NOW, o wait it´s OK as long as PAC knows when they are taken hence not RANDOM, what´s olympic style about that?... PAC´s Team is a disgrace and look worst the more you look into....

Well looks like something has changed his mind!!! maybe guilt!!!

False. Athletic Commissions set their own penalties, bud. So why does Pacquiao usurp their power and create his own for infractions? Yes, i know that bud. But there are no rules that the boxers or their promoters prohibiting them to set their own penalty. Just like there are no rules prohibiting for boxers to fight a catchweight as long as it is within the limits of that particular weight division.

Didn't say they where. I simply said that you can't just change the rules. There are no rules in regards to catchweights as long as it is within the limits of that particular weight division. For drug testing, the rules and regulations are that boxers are required to take the standard drug test, that's it, nothing more. Most Floyd fans are saying that Manny should just take the test that Floyd had demanded, i'm saying Manny doesn't have to. Furthermore, if Floyd did not try to change the rules with the standard drug test and demanded the Olympic drug test, we would have a fight signed by now. In other words, Floyd started this whole fiasco. False. Athletic Commissions set their own penalties, bud. So why does Pacquiao usurp their power and create his own for infractions?

Extra tests aren't against the rules either. Didn't say they where. I simply said that you can't just change the rules. There are no rules in regards to catchweights as long as it is within the limits of that particular weight division. For drug testing, the rules and regulations are that boxers are required to take the standard drug test, that's it, nothing more. Most Floyd fans are saying that Manny should just take the test that Floyd had demanded, i'm saying Manny doesn't have to. Furthermore, if Floyd did not try to change the rules with the standard drug test and demanded the Olympic drug test, we would have a fight signed by now. In other words, Floyd started this whole fiasco.

Already went through that, there was a precedent for those penalties. No precedent for Mayweathers extra testing, so why should he bow to it? If someone makes baseless allegations against me, I wouldnt even entertain it, let alone go out of my way to prove the idiot wrong. There is a precedent. Arthur Abraham just went through the same tests as part of the Super Six Tournament. He never offered any resistance nor filed any lawsuits, did he?

No just question the ones who refuse to be tested, or who prefer to set their own testing schedule. Can you tell who are those professional boxers that have been tested by USADA? You are the one who is blindly defending PBF for trying to get of out the fight. The mayweather said that with or without steroid PBF can beat the hell out of Pacman. Do you think Pacman is not worried that the test will be tampered to reflect a positive result? I am not saying that PBF and his team already arrange a way to make sure Pacman is tested positive. Do team mayweather will agree that the test be conducted in the Philippine to make sure the test results would be fair and honestly done? Or why not test PBF blood in the Philippines and Pacman's blood tested in USA? With the kind of behaviour team mayweather were showing lately would certainly cast a doubt of their real intentions. They already succeeded in tarnishing one man's image and achievement even before the negotiation.

Lady Fan how about you explain the initial thread, how are they all for testing then turn into b@tches about it? Explain that, they realized what they stand to lose if the truth is revealed perhaps? There's nothing to explain. You people are the ones who have a lot of explaining to do. Floyd will go down in history as a ducker. Like I said, if you Floyd fans really care about your idol you should turn your wrath on him. Yes him. As long as you people keep caressing him like a baby he will continue to act like one. It's obvious that you're not receptive to anything other than things that support your extreme views. Aren't you getting tired my friend? Again if I were you people I would say, "Floyd will beat the crap out of Pac even with roids." Perhaps such attitude will reverberate throughout the entire world of boxing, Floyd picks it up and be encouraged to say, "Why I am afraid of this guy? I am a way better boxer than him. I could beat him with roids in his system." That's exactly what I would do if I were a Floyd fan. Why? I am way smarter than that. C'mon, roids will make you superhuman? You gotta be kidding. So, insisting on this Olympic style shit just reinforces his fear and weakens his will to fight. Pac fans may not realize that this a positive thing for Pac, but in the back of some people's minds this is a big psychological advantage, ie, Floyd ducking issue, believe it or not. So keep on posting.

You are correct that a boxer can weigh in whatever weight he desires as long as it is within the limits, but there are no rules saying that boxers cannot weigh in in a specific catchweight that both boxers agreed on as long as it is still within the minimum and maximum limits. And why would it be cheating in the first place if both boxers agreed on it. CATCHWEIGHTS ARE NOT AGAINST THE RULES, THEY ARE ALLOWED. BTW, i edited the post that you quoted me on. Extra tests aren't against the rules either.

Wrong? The rule is that a man can come in at any weight he desires within the limits of that class. Right or wrong? You are correct that a boxer can weigh in whatever weight he desires as long as it is within the limits, but there are no rules saying that boxers cannot weigh in in a specific catchweight that both boxers agreed on as long as it is still within the minimum and maximum limits. And why would it be cheating in the first place if both boxers agreed on it. CATCHWEIGHTS ARE NOT AGAINST THE RULES, THEY ARE ALLOWED. BTW, i edited the post that you quoted me on.

Wrong! There are no rules that prohibits boxers to fight in a catchweight that both boxers agreed on. The rules do imply and enforced that boxers has to weigh in within the minimum and maximum limits of a particular weight class. Catchweights are prohibited and is not against the rules, especially if both boxers agreed to it. Wrong? The rule is that a man can come in at any weight he desires within the limits of that class. Right or wrong?

No...that's not the rule. The rule is that a man can come in at any weight he feels like within that class. Pacquiao set a cap. Why? Because the commission's rules are crap and we all know it. The commission has it's own penalties for those who go over, yet Pacquiao set his own numbers for the Oscar fight and the Mayweather fight. Why? Because the commission's rules are crap and we all know it. Stringent tests? Umm...let's go by the commission rules. Wrong! There are no rules that prohibits boxers to fight in a catchweight that both boxers agreed on. The rules do imply and enforced that boxers has to weigh in within the minimum and maximum limits of a particular weight class. Catchweights are NOT prohibited and is not against the rules, especially if both boxers agreed to it.

Is Floyd not one of if not the biggest name in boxing? Why shouldn't he have the authority to change it? It's his sport, he's in it, he's a fighter, he has a voice. He's been part of the biggest Money fight in boxing history. He has all the authority to change it. So you're telling me that if you're a big sports star, that you have the right to change the rules and regulations as you please. Without even having to consult with the governing body. So A-Rod for example can change any rules, or Kobe Bryant. Tell me you're not serious about this. There's a reason why each sport has a governing body, without it there won't be any structure and it would be chaotic. Floyd is not bigger than boxing, Floyd is not boxing, we found that out when he retired. The only reason most fans watch him is because they want to see him finally lose. He's the only boxer that claims to be the greatest and at the same time gets booed and fans walkout of the arena in the middle of the fight.

Lady Fan how about you explain the initial thread, how are they all for testing then turn into b@tches about it? Explain that, they realized what they stand to lose if the truth is revealed perhaps? Initial agreement (and multiple statements by Pac and Roach agreeing to randomized tests up to days before the fight) debunk your argument. Arum is the one saying 3 tests and it wasn't until mayweather issueded multiple denials for any compromise that Pac made the 30 day speech. Pac and Roach are on record saying their fine with random testing up to 3 days before the fight but May was not satisfied. Its only natural for Arum to make official statements with less appeasement for negotiation. So tell me, if Floyd was so insistant that the only way to test was olympic style via USADA...then why were they willing to change agencies last week? Sounds like they both are changing their positions to gain the upper hand in negotiations.

I could probably try to explain if I can be bothered but first off, I'm not a Pactard Secondly, explaining Manny's side to a Flomo is worse than trying to convince Bin Laden that America is the greatest country on earth

Lady Fan how about you explain the initial thread, how are they all for testing then turn into b@tches about it? Explain that, they realized what they stand to lose if the truth is revealed perhaps?

Have Pac fans learned to bob and weave? I guess articles like this make them DUCK!!! I've asked you to refute this several times now. You are clearly "DUCKING" my request. What is your response? This article is based on this (facts) http://www.anabolicsteroidsguide.com/steroid-profiles/hgh.html Quote: USADA Prefers Out Of Competition Testing Said J. Sahi, M.D., tells Philboxing why the USADA prefers out-of-competition testing: A random blood testing for the synthetic Human Growth Hormone, Somatropin, within the training period leading to the fight is NOT an effective way to catch cheaters especially if it is done within the thirty days before the fight. The USADA knows this. As a matter of fact, Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA said that to be most effective, athletes would have to be subjected to random testing while out of competition. If it will be done for this fight, it would be during competition since the fighters are scheduled to start training in early January. No athletes, trainers and coaches in their right mind will use this drug few days or weeks before the competition. It is useless because it will take several weeks to months to have the desired results. That is why this test is recommended to be used when athletes are out of competition. It is not simple to use HGH for few weeks before the fight. It is troublesome. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones, insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolic steroids. This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.1 These other drugs can be detected by the urine test then NSAC urine test is already enough for this. There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are HGH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids or Clenbuterol. Then a synergetic effect takes place. 2 Blood sugar and thyroid hormone should also be monitored while using HCG. It is really difficult and inconvenient to have all these stuffs during competition especially when you have only few weeks before the fight. That is why, this is being done during out of competition when athletes have several months prior to the competition or fight. http://philboxing.com/news/story-31983.html

here's the reason why Pac doesn't want to have blood drawn just days prior to fight night It's a lame excuse :sad: