Whatever you think, whoever you believe won is irrelevant. What is relevant is Joe is so bloody underated it's a crime against boxing!
Here's a breakdown of what Calzaghe did that no other boxer has done against Hopkins:
1) Land more punches than any fighter ever has vs Hopkins
2) Control Centre of the ring - everytime (this is soooo oft overlooked!)
3) Display better stamina
4) Adapt mid fight
5) Rotate his body to avoid Hopkins right side pot shots mid grab
6) Tuck his left arm/elbow and head in so Hopkins couldn't liver shot him in close
7) Fight with his hands low so Hopkins couldn't time him as he came in; Hopkins was pawing the left and looking for the 'pipe' shot that both Nassem & Roach came up with pretty much all fight long.
8) Use distance
9) Not allow Hopkins mind games to get to him
10) Not fall for traps multiple times
11) perpetually pressure Bernard
The bottom line is this fight was boring to watch but it was boring to watch because we had two truly amazing fighters in there. People forget Hopkins DID have Richardson in his corner. And Roach. And the conditioning coach Makie Shields. All Calzaghe had was his whining swearing minstrel of a father and the green hills of Wales. The fact Joe - himself - adapted mid fight and came back the way he did showcases his greatness whereas Hopkins himself amazingly had no plan B or C! That at least even to Hopkins fans deserves some credit. Joe had never faced a fighter like Hopkins and gave Hopkins and his lifetime experience all he could handle.
Regardless of whether you think he won or lost no other fighter has done these things against Hopkins. I'm not the biggest Joe fan in the world I think he was an arrogant man who wasted his amazing talents but this is the point I am trying to make:
I can see that hw was truly a once in a lifetime amazing talent!
Khan has the speed. Haye has the mouth. Froch has the heart. Hatton has the pressure but they all excel in one or two things whereas Cazlaghe had all those traits fighters and like him don't come very often it's just a shame he retired before he reached his peak :(
He is a good looking man for sure :luvbed: unlike you
So you admit to having gay feelings for Joe Calzaghe? I'm glad I could help you come out of the closet.
Hopkins entire career is a double standard.
No one changed their tune after the Pavlik fight. The only people who got super excited about that were Calzaghe nutboys.
Too bad you can get hard all you want to that fight but it was a simple style mismatch. Let me know when Pavlik proves he's worth a shit btw.
i agree he is underated but the reason is he did not fight in the usa until late in his career.. america is the mecca of boxing you have to fight here to be considered great..
Let me finish your sentence: by Americans.
Calzaghe won it clearly. Hopkins fans sure changed their tune about Hopkins being past prime when he beat Pavlik. Double standards.
Hopkins entire career is a double standard.
Hopkins IS as good now as when he was 35, it's not like Joe was a spring chicken when they fought, he was 36 with brittle hands. A 28 year old Calzaghe still beat a 35 year old Hopkins anyway...
I know you are one of the more retarded people on this page (see: Ricky Hatton P4P #2) but really? When did this happen? In alternate reality British bias land?
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Hopkins landed and held for dear life VS someone who doesn't hit hard.
Hopkins dropped on the floor like he got shot.
Hopkins was made to look like 55 when he was 43
Hopkins hit clean shots, which I like but to then hold after each one, hmmm that shit gets boring
Punch stats mean nothing. Calazghe landed 7 or 8 clean punches all night. He won the fight because he was busier than a 43 year old man. Congratulations Joe.
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Shell of hopkins lmao he destroyed Pavlik
maybe he wasnt a shell of himself but he was still far from his prime. in his prime he wouldve knocked calzaghe out, i think he won the fight even at 43 but at 35 it wouldve been a massacre.
All Calzaghe had was his whining swearing minstrel of a father and the green hills of Wales.
Oi don't underestimate this. The green hills of Wales have mystical powers. I should know.