We are witnessing the greatest and perfect quack in boxing history.

Remember what floyd said during interview wth rugged man? He said he controls boxing. If you are on top there's a bit ego playin on your mind. I mean why would you submit to his demands when they said the authority that handles nba nfl testing can accommodate them? Why does golden boy push and insist for USADA? Remember pac submitted to both urine and blood test. Only a fool can think that they can flush away all these enhancement shit on ones body. I mean. Why take risk if you will be tested for both procedure and you're on PUBLIC SPOTLIGHT?

People, people, I repeat, Manny will eventually relent to prove that he could destroy M'weather easily. He'll have enough of the shit in no time. He's convinced that Floyd is afraid of seeing his ass whooped and he's just making excuses. Fact is, Pacman is not hard to convince. March is way too early for the Pac after a hard fight with Cotto. He's too polite to say no to Arum who is the most pissed man in all of this. Pacman got infected by it. So use your common sense. Pacman will want to see this fight happen just to punish Floydweather in the ring.

If there was ever a master of mind games...It's Team Mayweather.:boxing:

While some might argue about the current situation on Pac-Mayweather fight, a lot of people are also blinded by the way that the mayweathers team wanted to control the negotiations. First off, 8oz gloves, ring size, and 147 weight are standard rules for their fight. I see no problems there. Both teams would want certain things in their favour so as to cater to their advantage. Pacquaio would prefer the fight to be at 145 and Mayweather would prefer a larger ring. It's why it is called negotiation. This has all been sorted however. Part of the negotiation was that Pacman wanted $10m for every pound Mayweather exceeds to. Which I might say that the price value is absurd but understandable. The case which will make it valid is the fact that Mayweather Jr. did not follow his last fight's 144 agreement with Marquez. I agree the price is absurd, but as somebody mentioned already the point is moot. Although Floyd reniged on his 144 deal limit with Marquez he still only weighed 146. Mayweather makes 147 no problems whatsoever. With this, let me give you some facts. 1. Pacquiao had history with the same situation I've read in some articles that blood was taken from Manny 48 hours before the Morales 1 fight. He was quoted saying that it did affect him a lot. Did it affect him a lot? Or was that just an excuse because he lost the fight? 4. Olympic style testing They may test pacs blood during camp BUT does it really matter? How can it help him on training? So now pac needs to pump up during camp to stay superhuman? His blood will be taken right after the fight for tests. IS this not enough? It depends on whether Pacquiao is doping or not. If he is, then the time and place he would dope would be during training. This is why random testing would be needed. If Pacquaio knows in advance when the drug testers would be taking samples, he would have ample time to allow any drugs to flush from his system. Taking blood after a fight may not show up any drugs that he may have taken during training camp in the previous weeks. So no, this is not enough. I mean, come on man. If you think of this logically, you will understand. If you were in the same situation and have urine and blood tests just right after the fight. Would you even risk and still take enhancement drugs which will definitely nullify your legacy? Certain types of PEDs can be eliminated from the body within a very short period of time. If Manny were to take these during training camp then there would be minimal chance they would show up in a drugs test several weeks later. Manny, if he were doping (and I'm not suggesting that he is) could show up on fight night, have the tests taken and know that there was zero chance of being caught. His 'legacy' would remain intact. If we have the urine and blood tests right after the fight, what is the point of using performance enhancement drugs during training camp? See above point. My take? I guess we are witnessing the greatest and the most perfect duck in history of the sport. I doubt it, I think both teams are playing mind games. Floyd is trying to paint Manny as a cheat and undermine him in the public eye. Manny does not want to lose face by accepting Mayweathers demands. Simple.

TS fact is manny is refusing RANDOM drug tests thats what it is ..but the question is Y??? manny got the 50 50 split 8 oz gloves 10 mill per pound but wont get random drug tested.. to me it means floyd is a drug free elite fighter. and well manny whats the deal?? whats wrong with random drug tests cause thats the real reason theres all this fuss Floyd has not protested the protocols and procedures of the USADA who have their own set of established rules of what are proper RANDOM testing procedures. The only one protesting those procedures and wants to make up the rules is Arum. Not Mayweather. Freddie wants a cut-off date that the USADA cannot guarantee. Why accept the USADA protocol in the first place? WHY WILL THE USADA NOT GUARANTEE A CUT-OFF DATE??? Can anybody answer that one honestly?

Don't you worry Pac fans. Manny will eventually accept the testing. He has a simple mind. (I don't mean that in the negative sense.) He can be convinced easily. What I'm wondering about is what kind of excuse would the M'weather camp throw in next time? Maybe a towel. They might ask Manny Pac to take a POOP before and after fight for testing. LOL.

Sorry, but you're not gonna convince these idiots. Their hate for Manny is just to strong. They will accuse and argue blindly and without logic or reason. All they keep saying is "Manny is refusing blood tests, he must be on roids." They'll repeat the same rhetoric until they turn blue. Forget it man. Don't you worry Pac fans. Manny will eventually accept the testing. He has a simple mind. (I don't mean that in the negative sense.) He can be convinced easily. What I'm wondering about is what kind of excuse would the M'weather camp throw in next time? Maybe a towel.

We are witnessing the greatest duck, and it's coming from Manny Quackiao. Wrong its coming from the greatest ducker in the sport.. Floyd jr..

Sorry, but you're not gonna convince these idiots. Their hate for Manny is just to strong. They will accuse and argue blindly and without logic or reason. All they keep saying is "Manny is refusing blood tests, he must be on roids." They'll repeat the same rhetoric until they turn blue. Forget it man. lol. i'm still hopeful though. I want to tickle their tiny brain and make them understand.

Skipper, it's better than that. Roach said days ago that blood tests were OK up to one week before the fight, but no closer than 3 days before the first bell. I believe Team Pacquiao was later willing to compromise even further, saying two days was OK. This article came out a few days back. See the bolded part. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/12/mayweather-pacquiao-camps-argue-drugtesting-points.html So, random testing is fine, after the fight is fine, but no closer than 2 or 3 days before the fight, depending on which article you refer to. Most of the time it's pretty hard to explain to people some facts. I'm just trrying to throw in a logical question which I am hopeful that they will come to understand. The article made it more interesting though. LOL

Lmao Manny Quckquaio!!

... Floyd agreed to Pacs 10,000,000 per pound EVEN THOUGH....... When Floyd has had to wigh 147 Pounds..hes never come in over..ONCE IN HIS CAREER...EVER. Yet he still accepted.... Pac is on something..if he wasnt he would just take the tests and his 30 Million dolars. he has came in over the contracted weight before to gain an advantage..that is what worries pac...600000 is what he paid jmm for the fight to go through..so there is evidendce and proof why manny needs to be worried for mayweather to come overweiht and just pay a small amount of penalty1!where is the actual proof and evidence that manny is on steroids !>???if you can give me one ill give you all my points...hhahha

SO answer me this If they will have the urine and blood tests right after the fight(i mean in the dressing room), what is the point for pac to use performance enhancement drugs during training camp? You know Pac has a bit of ego as well. He wont just bite from a former p4p demand. Skipper, it's better than that. Roach said days ago that blood tests were OK up to one week before the fight, but no closer than 3 days before the first bell. I believe Team Pacquiao was later willing to compromise even further, saying two days was OK. This article came out a few days back. See the bolded part. Roach said his concern has nothing to do with hiding anything. "Giving blood right before the fight could be like having sex right before the fight," Roach said. "It’s 100% mental. If it’s in your head that it weakens you, then it will weaken you." Roach extended an olive branch to the riff, saying he would allow Pacquiao to give a blood sample one week before the fight, but no closer than three days before the first bell. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/12/mayweather-pacquiao-camps-argue-drugtesting-points.html So, random testing is fine, after the fight is fine, but no closer than 2 or 3 days before the fight, depending on which article you refer to. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

When has Floyd EVER came in over 147 Pounds when he was scheduled to weigh 147? Please answer. stop changing the subject has floyd been known to cheat the scales? yes. look at his previous fight. fact is fact.

SO answer me this If they will have the urine and blood tests right after the fight(i mean in the dressing room), what is the point for pac to use performance enhancement drugs during training camp? You know Pac has a bit of ego as well. He wont just bite from a former p4p demand.

Floyd agreed to Pacs 10,000,000 per pound EVEN THOUGH....... When Floyd has had to wigh 147 Pounds..hes never come in over..ONCE IN HIS CAREER...EVER. Yet he still accepted.... Pac is on something..if he wasnt he would just take the tests and his 30 Million dolars. Are you crazy? That's exactly why he accepted -- because he knows he can easily make 147. This should not even be an issue, so let's not make it one, regardless of how much the fine is for being over the limit. The fact is Floyd would not have any trouble making 147, therefore Team Pacquiao's demand is a moot point. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

While some might argue about the current situation on Pac-Mayweather fight, a lot of people are also blinded by the way that the mayweathers team wanted to control the negotiations. First off, 8oz gloves, ring size, and 147 weight are standard rules for their fight. Part of the negotiation was that Pacman wanted $10m for every pound Mayweather exceeds to. Which I might say that the price value is absurd but understandable. The case which will make it valid is the fact that Mayweather Jr. did not follow his last fight's 144 agreement with Marquez. The requirement from Pac's team was followed by Mayweather's demand to take Olympic style blood testing which will be carried out by USADA ONLY. no one else. With this, let me give you some facts. 1. Pacquiao had history with the same situation I've read in some articles that blood was taken from Manny 48 hours before the Morales 1 fight. He was quoted saying that it did affect him a lot. 2. Pacquiao is not afraid of needles. Yes. he has tattoos and he got those tattoos away from a scheduled match. Only thing he doesn't want is taking blood before the fight. 3. Tests Pacquiao will undergo Urinalysis and blood tests. Plus they brought in the authority that do tests for NBA, NFL, etc. Now why do they insist using USADA ONLY? -Urine tests: they can take any time they want. During camp, before the fight and right after the fight. -Blood tests: on press tour. 1 month before fight. and right after the fight in the dressing room. 4. Olympic style testing They may test pacs blood during camp BUT does it really matter? How can it help him on training? So now pac needs to pump up during camp to stay superhuman? His blood will be taken right after the fight for tests. IS this not enough? I mean, come on man. If you think of this logically, you will understand. If you were in the same situation and have urine and blood tests just right after the fight. Would you even risk and still take enhancement drugs which will definitely nullify your legacy? If we have the urine and blood tests right after the fight, what is the point of using performance enhancement drugs during training camp? My take? I guess we are witnessing the greatest and the most perfect duck in history of the sport. Sorry, but you're not gonna convince these idiots. Their hate for Manny is just to strong. They will accuse and argue blindly and without logic or reason. All they keep saying is "Manny is refusing blood tests, he must be on roids." They'll repeat the same rhetoric until they turn blue. Forget it man.

Floyd agreed to Pacs 10,000,000 per pound EVEN THOUGH....... When Floyd has had to wigh 147 Pounds..hes never come in over..ONCE IN HIS CAREER...EVER. Yet he still accepted.... Pac is on something..if he wasnt he would just take the tests and his 30 Million dolars. Floyd cheated in his last fight. Case closed. its a FACT that he cheated.

generations or years from now he'll be known as the welterweight who never fought welterweights

10 million dollar penalty is put on effect because floyd is a proven cheat he cheated on the marquez fight by being a bitch and coming in overweight try again flomo retards :rofl: