I just now realized how many ignorant ass people there are on this site!!!

The only proof Mayweaths have got Pac is on roids is that Pac is destroying people better than the mayweathers want him to be destroying people. Pac has passed every tests hes ever had, but for what? What was passing the tests for?

Im neither a Floyd or Manny fan. But to all you people, especially the one who started the thread stated something to the effect of if you reject a test for steroids your guilty. The man is not rejecting being tested, he gets tested before and after every fight hes ever been in and has never once failed or came close to being considered suspicious. What the hell is wrong with you people. He's already said he will be tested three times and they can urine test him all they want. I mean seriously folks, are you that hard up or have that much hatred for the man that you reach that far for saying he's avoiding it? Use common sense. He has not once said I refuse to be tested for steroids. This should end this debate once and for all on this site. Talk about something else. It use to be innocent until proven guilty. But the way the media(whether sports, politics, entertaiment, etc..) is going, its now "guilty until proven innocent". But even if you are found innocent, there are still doubts whether you really are innocent.

because he doesn't want the tests to be random!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he agreed to random testing up until the last day, and doesnt want blood the DAY of the fight. So what all of this boils down to is, floyd is scared of Manny roiding up the DAY of the fight. and Manny is going to be tested the day of the fight, from NASC. Urine

Stop with the crack head talk it s very immature...Floyd Sr. knows more about boxing then me and you both..and everyone else in this forum. Piss tests dont detect HGH....there are other drugs out there other then ROIDS... And they are detected by BLOOD. If your a Pac fan..you should be screaming from the mountain tops to ur hero saying "take the test Pac, prove the world wrong"...Because right noew whether true or not...the MEDIA and even Pacs peers in the sport....belivee hes cheating. If this was Maweather saying I dont want to take blood tests....and he was talking to another fighter about fighting because BLOOD TESTING wouldnt be involved...I would be sad as shit..because te fighter that Im a fan of wont prove to me and to all of boxing that hes clean and he robbed us of the BIGGEST fight of the last 25 years. I WOULD BE PISSED....especially iof Pac already agreed to the testing. I would CRUCIFY Floyd.:crucified Usain Bolt is the most tested athlete in the world... He has BLOOD DRAWN....the day of events.... Then he goes out and break s world records. If Pac is clean he would HEV NO PROBLEM taking a test to prove it. Once again Pac said it yesterday he will go through all the blood test except on the day of the fight. So basically they can blood test him anytime before MArch 13. He did not set dates or time, he just said anytime before MArch 13 Heres the article Pacquiao chides Mayweather: Excuses, excuses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- abs-cbnNEWS.com | 12/24/2009 4:58 PM Printer-friendly version | Send to friend | Share your views MANILA, Philippines – Seven-time world champion Manny Pacquiao has merely laughed off the drug testing issue being raised by Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s saying that the former pound-for-pound king is just trying to excuse himself from the fight. “Marami lang siyang dahilan, marami siyang dinedemand. Siguro wala pa ‘yong fight, takot na,” said Pacquiao. The Filipino champion, who recently won the World Boxing Organization welterweight title from Puerto Rico’s Miguel Cotto, said Mayweather maybe getting nervous with the idea of trading punches with him. Thus, American boxer came out with a statement demanding an Olympic-type of dope testing. “Sa akin walang problema kung gusto niyang lumaban. Fight kaming dalawa... pero kung medyo natakot siya -- palakasin muna niya loob niya,” said Pacquiao. Pacquiao made it clear he has no qualm in undergoing tests. What he’s opposed against is having him to give blood so near the March 13 fight date. “Require natin lahat pati blood test... pero ‘wag naman doon sa day of the fight, manghihina ka naman noon,” he said. The Filipino boxing star added that the Mayweather camp may also be using the issue to just to distract him. “Gumagawa lang siya ng paraan, strategy niya para magalit ako... para ma-distract ako sa concentration sa fight,” said the reigning pound-for-pound king.

Stop with the crack head talk it s very immature...Floyd Sr. knows more about boxing then me and you both..and everyone else in this forum. Piss tests dont detect HGH....there are other drugs out there other then ROIDS... And they are detected by BLOOD. If your a Pac fan..you should be screaming from the mountain tops to ur hero saying "take the test Pac, prove the world wrong"...Because right noew whether true or not...the MEDIA and even Pacs peers in the sport....belivee hes cheating. If this was Maweather saying I dont want to take blood tests....and he was talking to another fighter about fighting because BLOOD TESTING wouldnt be involved...I would be sad as shit..because te fighter that Im a fan of wont prove to me and to all of boxing that hes clean and he robbed us of the BIGGEST fight of the last 25 years. I WOULD BE PISSED....especially iof Pac already agreed to the testing. I would CRUCIFY Floyd.:crucified Usain Bolt is the most tested athlete in the world... He has BLOOD DRAWN....the day of events.... Then he goes out and break s world records. If Pac is clean he would HEV NO PROBLEM taking a test to prove it. What the hell is wrong with you guy? Pac is not refusing to take blood test for the one hundreth time. Why do you keep saying that. Hes prepared to take blood test three damn times including the second the fight is over. I dont understand why you think Pac is refusing to have blood taken. He has never once said that. I mean I dont know how to make it any clearer to you. And about me calling Floyd Sr. a crackhead being immature, its no more immature than Floyd Sr. calling Pac a steriod user with absolutely no proof whatsoever.

It is what it is ,but what are odds of you passing a test that you can prepare for,an i'm a fan of both ,but if their is a chance to make that kinda money and end any doubt

1st of all---nobody's saying anything about him rejecting the tests really--it's him rejecting the test at random dates---he wants set dates--those are subjective dates--i'm not accusing manny of taking anythig and neither did floyd jr., he just wants objective dates--that's more than reasonable in this situation--and it doesn't make much sense when manny's diet coach or whoever he is makes a statement claiming manny doesn't know what he gives him---only he knows in the mist of all this--makes that comment---like he's ready to take the fall for a soon to be congressman candidate--where honesty is crucial----so randomized drug testing is really needed after that comment--- Dude, you need to learn how to use commas and periods. Your posts are a pain to read.

You JUST realized all the ignorant ass people here?

Pac bitch cancelled the fight Just remember it's Pac and his people who cancelled the fight. MONEY is ready and waiting to complete his legacy by destroying the Pac myth.

That is not a problem, or at least it shouldnt be, use the same steroid testing that has been used in every Floyd and Manny fight in the last 5 years and there is no problem. You shouldnt change the rules because a crackhead name Floyd Sr. thinks a man uses steroids because hes a once in a lifetime talent. Hank Aaron hit 755 home runs weighing 185 pounds. Have you ever heard anyone accuse him of using steriods? Hell no. Talent is talent regardless of how out of the norm it is. You're damn right my friend!

Pac doesnt want the test to be RANDOM. Thats the problem.... That is not a problem, or at least it shouldnt be, use the same steroid testing that has been used in every Floyd and Manny fight in the last 5 years and there is no problem. You shouldnt change the rules because a crackhead name Floyd Sr. thinks a man uses steroids because hes a once in a lifetime talent. Hank Aaron hit 755 home runs weighing 185 pounds. Have you ever heard anyone accuse him of using steriods? Hell no. Talent is talent regardless of how out of the norm it is.

Thanks for that johnnybur. But the mayweathers really have defamed Pac, because everyone is linking Pacs name with roids now and Pac has become somewhat of a joke, through no fault of his own doing. He has been tested many times and passed with flying colours yet people still link his name with roids thanks to PBF. He already agreed to more tests than PBF has ever asked of anyone, yet Pac has still seemed to have committed a crime somehow. The Mayweathers and his fans try twisting it somehow. Thats how delusional some people are.

Why are people trying to make out the mayweathers havent accused Pac of using steroids? Didnt Senior say he didnt want his son fighting Pac, because of Pac taking steroids? Thats bloody accusing someone of steroids isnt it? Pac has already agreed to more tests than any of PBFs opponents have ever taken so how is it still not enough for PBF? He must surely be saying he thinks Pac is on roids if he wont accept Pacs acceptance of tests and meet Pac half way. Its already being tested more than PBF has ever asked of anyone. Of course PBF has dragged Pacs name through the gutter. And i want to see what the courts have to say about it! Yeah...better to fight the other guy who has been accusing him just as much.

Well put, that was the smartest and truest reply made on this manner. Once again, Im not a manny fan, I like Hatton to be honest, but that statement you just made should end this debate right now, so anyone not clear on this matter, PLEASE READ HUGH GRANTS thread, its the beginning, middle and end of this whole debacle.

Why are people trying to make out the mayweathers havent accused Pac of using steroids? Didnt Senior say he didnt want his son fighting Pac, because of Pac taking steroids? Thats bloody accusing someone of steroids isnt it? Pac has already agreed to more tests than any of PBFs opponents have ever taken so how is it still not enough for PBF? He must surely be saying he thinks Pac is on roids if he wont accept Pacs acceptance of tests and meet Pac half way. Its already being tested more than PBF has ever asked of anyone. Of course PBF has dragged Pacs name through the gutter. And i want to see what the courts have to say about it!

I don't think the Mayweather camp seriously suspects Pacquiao of steroid use, I just think they want the psychological upper hand before the fight. Getting Pacquiao to submit to tests not considered necessary by boxing authorities but considered necessary by Team Mayweather is round minus one. I don't think they expected Pacquiao to react quite this way though. I imagine they knew there would be a stink over the matter but ultimately expected the testing would be agreed to. Now that there is a serious prospect of the richest fight in the history of the sport not happening, I expect there will be some compromise. Even if it means that we have to wait till later in the year, this fight will happen provided neither fighter loses in the meantime - there is just too much money involved for it not to.

it's simple when you're great and on top of the game haters and jealous retards come out of the woodwork to bring your down happens to everyone Pacquiao fans are beginning to sound like Floyd fans. Ah, the irony.

1st of all---nobody's saying anything about him rejecting the tests really--it's him rejecting the test at random dates---he wants set dates--those are subjective dates--i'm not accusing manny of taking anythig and neither did floyd jr., he just wants objective dates--that's more than reasonable in this situation--and it doesn't make much sense when manny's diet coach or whoever he is makes a statement claiming manny doesn't know what he gives him---only he knows in the mist of all this--makes that comment---like he's ready to take the fall for a soon to be congressman candidate--where honesty is crucial----so randomized drug testing is really needed after that comment---

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