Floyd should push for 154 and 10 oz. gloves and drop the OST

Absolutely, Marquez shouldn't have to fight, but everybody knows a fight of that magnitude couldn't be postponed or stopped just like that the same with the may-pac fight if it happens hence the $10 million fine. So can I ask you a simple question then, if Marquez opted not to fight that night, who should be blamed, Marquez or Mayweather? And when you answer that question please consider your "no fighter should fight weight drained" belief? Maypecker, duh. I don't believe a guy should fight drained, but pay the price if you gambled a little too much at the table.

Freddie Roach would do this. yes, thats why they are tryign to prevent that by having a 10 million per pound limit. So time and millions of dollars of advertising arent wasted by floyd trying to cheat the scales. Why cant you understand a simple concept like this?

Listen, Marquez didn't have to fight. He should've walked away. Absolutely, Marquez shouldn't have to fight, but everybody knows a fight of that magnitude couldn't be postponed or stopped just like that the same with the may-pac fight if it happens hence the $10 million fine. So can I ask you a simple question then, if Marquez opted not to fight that night, who should be blamed, Marquez or Mayweather? And when you answer that question please consider your "no fighter should fight weight drained" belief.

man is this a joke. Now youre telling us they should just walk away if Floyd just decides to pay a small cut of the purse and cheat the scales Should Manny do the same if Floyd were to come in at 150 and pay only 900000 on a 50 mil purse (like you wanted) YES or NO Freddie Roach would do this.

Listen, Marquez didn't have to fight. He should've walked away. man is this a joke. Now youre telling us they should just walk away if Floyd just decides to pay a small cut of the purse and cheat the scales Should Manny do the same if Floyd were to come in at 150 and pay only 900000 on a 50 mil purse (like you wanted) YES or NO

His alternatives will only do a fraction in buys and that might include with Mosley and Williams. Let's not act like this fight going down the drain isn't a HUGE loss to boxing. I'm at least in here trying to come up with an idea to save the fight. No one has presented anything other than everything should stay as it is... well that's why we have a dead fight right now. For all intents and purposes, I really thought this was a friggin marketing genius by someone who has a limited time frame to promote the fight to its fullest capacity, because when you combine "Pacquiao", "Mayweather" and "roids use", they can more than hold their own competing for ESPN's airtime (and other sports media outlets) against the likes of Brett Favreand the unbeaten Colts , the NFL play-offs, the on-going College Bowl games, Lebron, Kobe and the NBA, in this busy Holiday season until it turned into a nightmare. It seems it has a life of its own now and rearing its ugly head for boxing to head to the doldrums again if this fight doesn't get made...

It wouldn't matter to Pac, he will still get his money, although it will not be as big as a Mayweather fight. Check bs scene, it's all about Pac's alternative fights in case this mega fight gets shut down. Boxers are mushrooming by the minute trying to get a Pac fight. What about Floyd? Matthew fukkin Hatton? His alternatives will only do a fraction in buys and that might include with Mosley and Williams. Let's not act like this fight going down the drain isn't a HUGE loss to boxing. I'm at least in here trying to come up with an idea to save the fight. No one has presented anything other than everything should stay as it is... well that's why we have a dead fight right now.

Do those organizations do random blood testing? No. Floyd will remain paranoid, fight doesn't get done. It wouldn't matter to Pac, he will still get his money, although it will not be as big as a Mayweather fight. Check bs scene, it's all about Pac's alternative fights in case this mega fight gets shut down. Boxers are mushrooming by the minute trying to get a Pac fight. What about Floyd? Matthew fukkin Hatton?

WTF, what about no fighter should fight overweight? If a fighter is weight drained then he goes up a division. How do you feel about the supposed to be guzman campbell fight back then? Listen, Marquez didn't have to fight. He should've walked away.

A juicer? Because he refused to undergo tests from an agency chosen by his opponent? Who's rep could have been tarnished by Floyd's camp by jumping the gun and contacting them beforehand. Pac's team is willing to compromise by offering a different counter, he'll do the tests done the agency who's doing the NFL, NBA and MLB. If he was guilty of roiding up, why would he fukk himself by offering that? Do those organizations do random blood testing? No. Floyd will remain paranoid, fight doesn't get done.

No fighter should fight weight drained. Sorry I won't agree with anyone's argument for it. WTF, what about no fighter should fight overweight? If a fighter is weight drained then he goes up a division. How do you feel about the supposed to be guzman campbell fight back then?

Look, Floyd has it in his head that he might be getting cheated. For the sake of getting this fight done SOME kind of compromise will have to be made. Do people want this fight to slip away? There's no recourse for Jr. if he can't get the tests other than try to do what he feels is level the playing field. They won't give him room on the weight or let him fight without puncher gloves. He feels like he's in trouble fighting a juicer who hits like a mule. Pacquiao hits harder than Shane Mosley right now. Think about that. Now Floyd is like "ain't no way.." there has to be a way to get to the bottom of this or even things up. A juicer? Because he refused to undergo tests from an agency chosen by his opponent? Who's rep could have been tarnished by Floyd's camp by jumping the gun and contacting them beforehand? Pac's team is willing to compromise by offering a different counter, he'll do the tests done by the agency who's doing the NFL, NBA and MLB. If he was guilty of roiding up, why would he fukk himself by offering that?

wowwww, never have we heard that before. really reaching on that one I don't think so. He didn't go for that random testing until that was scrapped (coming in at 154 10 oz.) and the penalty for being overweight was added.

This is clearly what Floyd is trying to do. If he believes Manny is doping, a little increase in his mass and 10 oz. gloves will level it out. wowwww, never have we heard that before. really reaching on that one

Did you want Manny to go 10 oz because he hits too hard and it would be unfair to floyd? did I just read that right? This is clearly what Floyd is trying to do. If he believes Manny is doping, a little increase in his mass and 10 oz. gloves will level it out.

Look, Floyd has it in his head that he might be getting cheated. For the sake of getting this fight done SOME kind of compromise will have to be made. Do people want this fight to slip away? There's no recourse for Jr. if he can't get the tests other than try to do what he feels is level the playing field. They won't give him room on the weight or let him fight without puncher gloves. He feels like he's in trouble fighting a juicer who hits like a mule. Pacquiao hits harder than Shane Mosley right now. Think about that. Now Floyd is like "ain't no way.." there has to be a way to get to the bottom of this or even things up. Did you want Manny to go 10 oz because he hits harder with 8oz gloves than Floyd with 8oz?, and it would be unfair to only floyd? did I just read that right?

Let's forget about the belt for a minute, we were talking about the gloves. You said that using 10 oz gloves is well within the rules in a welterweight fight, right? That means if Floyd decides to use 10 oz gloves while Pac settled for his ever reliable 8 oz Cleto Reyes gloves, will it be fine and dandy to you and Floyd? Look, Floyd has it in his head that he might be getting cheated. For the sake of getting this fight done SOME kind of compromise will have to be made. Do people want this fight to slip away? There's no recourse for Jr. if he can't get the tests other than try to do what he feels is level the playing field. They won't give him room on the weight or let him fight without puncher gloves. He feels like he's in trouble fighting a juicer who hits like a mule. Pacquiao hits harder than Shane Mosley right now. Think about that. Now Floyd is like "ain't no way.." there has to be a way to get to the bottom of this or even things up.

Floyd wanted wiggle room on the weight first and foremost.. not coming in big at 154 specifically, but even weighing 1 pound over 147 does put you in JMW territory. tahts why there's 10 million imposed, so he doesnt come in his own custom weight class. That wiggle room youre reffering to is called cheating the scales. Its a 147 bout. I dont know if you realized that.

Floyd didn't want to fight for the WBO belt. Arum mentioned this. Let's forget about the belt for a minute, we were talking about the gloves. You said that using 10 oz gloves is well within the rules in a welterweight fight, right? That means if Floyd decides to use 10 oz gloves while Pac settled for his ever reliable 8 oz Cleto Reyes gloves, will it be fine and dandy to you and Floyd?

uhh...then why was it Mannys advantage to have Floyd to agree to a 147 weight match? are you telling us floyd shouldve kept his stance and fought at his real weight, 151?154? We're going around in circles, Im done. Floyd wanted wiggle room on the weight first and foremost.. not coming in big at 154 specifically, but even weighing 1 pound over 147 does put you in JMW territory.