March was Pacqauio's date given to him by HBO not Mayweather's, So how is Mayweather insist manny fight in march??? Manny was suppose to fight in March and he was given a date by HBO.
Sigh you guys have poor memories. After Cotto fight pac was tenatively scheduled for a fight in March. Roach came on record saying May wouldn't want to fight htat early so it would probably be against Yuri. Pac turned in paperwork for his campaign, PBF said he'd fight in May. Roach wanted more time for the fight but they settled as it was the best they could do to get the fight done without conflicting with Pac's campaign since Mayweather REFUSED to fight after the elections.
its funny to see how the pactards are scrambling to bring up old stuff concerning this fight to make it seem as though Floyd never wanted to fight, like talking about the March date and the glove issue...just stop it! ya'll already look bad enough...for real.
Manny needs to agree to so the fight can proceed, if not then the suspicion will only get worse and him not taking the SAME test as Floyd will look worse than a duck, IMO.
I still think it happens though.
Pacquiao will get the lion's share of the blame because he's the one refusing one of the key terms for the fight.
Keep it 100 if the roles were reversed and Floyd was the one who denied the blood testing Floyd would be crucified by the public and even worse on this board than he is now
catchweight are not the norm....
they are more normal in the recent years... but .
still not norm....
Tell that to Hopkins who had more catchweight fights than Pacquiao. I don't see you saying anything about that.
Catchweight fights have been happening for much longer than you and I have been alive. Here's some details, going right back to 1904:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326011
147 is the welterweight division, what you want them to drain floyd to 145?? 147 shouldve been made for cotto pacquiao....
"Its no concern of mine whether it is 145 pounds or not," Cotto said.
"That is the usual weight that we cut down to for the weigh in, and in the ring—on fight night—I will go up eight to 10 pounds, so actually during the fight I will weigh around 155," stated Cotto.
Pac is the one to blame, Floyd agreed to all his typical Manny Bitch demands and Pac is refusing to take a simple bood test! And then he maes the gayest excuse...."uuum im ahh afraid of aaah uuuuh need, neeedles"
Nope, the excuses is not "I'm afraid of needles", the point is not to give in to mind games. Read between the f*cking lines, man.
its not mind games being played
Of course it is. Open your eyes.
Pac has been complaing about the dates, he wanted a 60-40 split when Roach and mayweather said 50-50... and now he dont wanna take those drug tests. ....... what a stupid ass steroid user :eek:
The drug testing was already in the contract BEFORE all this came out...Why is Manny all of a sudden saying no
All of you are wrong. Nobody has "refused" drug testing. The issue is when the tests occur. No closer than three days is perfectly reasonable, if you ask me.
Roach said his concern has nothing to do with hiding anything.
"Giving blood right before the fight could be like having sex right before the fight," Roach said. "It’s 100% mental. If it’s in your head that it weakens you, then it will weaken you."
Roach extended an olive branch to the riff, saying he would allow Pacquiao to give a blood sample one week before the fight, but no closer than three days before the first bell.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/12/mayweather-pacquiao-camps-argue-drugtesting-points.html
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its a no brainer.
the over acting camp caused the fight.
pac did one thing right and that is to call on may.
may camp messed it by calling unconventional shots.
let the officials decide whats best for both, and let that be the final say.
What type of demand did Floyd exactly gave into. The 10M penalty clause.. Newsflash to you, he is suppose to come in at 147 because that's the WW limit. Floyd is not pulling the same shit as he did with the JMM fight.
Agreed, That isnt a demand....147 is 147.
Manny wanted to fight AFTER the elections (May) PBF insisted March or no fight...here they are supposed to fight in March.
I wouldn't support Pac forcing these last minuet rule changes for PBF. Even still, Roach camp has said they'll agree to blood testing up to 3 days before the fight and after and urine tests any time. So how are they not realistically agreeing to Floyd's requests again?
So were gonna pretend Roach said there is no way Floyd would take the March 11th date? Dont say they are agreeing to Floyds terms on the date when Roach is the one that threw out March 11th all Floyd is doing is taking you up on the date
The drug testing was already in the contract BEFORE all this came out...Why is Manny all of a sudden saying no
Manny wanted to fight AFTER the elections (May) PBF insisted March or no fight...here they are supposed to fight in March.
I wouldn't support Pac forcing these last minuet rule changes for PBF. Even still, Roach camp has said they'll agree to blood testing up to 3 days before the fight and after and urine tests any time. So how are they not realistically agreeing to Floyd's requests again?
March was Pacqauio's date given to him by HBO not Mayweather's, So how is Mayweather insist manny fight in march??? Manny was suppose to fight in March and he was given a date by HBO.
its not mind games being played, theres speculation that pacquiao is using steroids so of course he should be tested..
im almost sure pacquiao isnt on roids but if someone thinks you are using roids, then why not get tested??? whats the big deal??
its no senseless...its senseless not to make that demand....floyd is gonna do the exact same thing so how is it a scare tactic for floyd??
i doubt as well and pac is agreeing to the demand, not olympic style but he's willing. i say scare tactic bcause thats what he is. he just doesn't want that 0 turn 1.
Team Pacman
Floyd gave in to every demand they asked for...If you would have asked 3 months ago who would be the difficult one here 100% of this board says Floyd...Really Manny has been the one that has made it difficult
What type of demand did Floyd exactly gave into. The 10M penalty clause.. Newsflash to you, he is suppose to come in at 147 because that's the WW limit. Floyd is not pulling the same shit as he did with the JMM fight.
Manny wanted to fight AFTER the elections (May) PBF insisted March or no fight...here they are supposed to fight in March.
I wouldn't support Pac forcing these last minuet rule changes for PBF. Even still, Roach camp has said they'll agree to blood testing up to 3 days before the fight and after and urine tests any time. So how are they not realistically agreeing to Floyd's requests again?
March was a date they agreed on for Pac's schedule. He was going to fight in March even if it wasnt against Floyd. Thats all old new though.
Pac has been complaing about the dates, he wanted a 60-40 split when Roach and mayweather said 50-50... and now he dont wanna take those drug tests. ....... what a stupid ass steroid user :eek:
Pacquiao will get the lion's share of the blame because he's the one refusing one of the key terms for the fight.
But, if Mayweather really wants to implement additional testing, why doesn't he lobby the Nevada State Athletic Commission to enforce a stricter drug testing policy for all fights, rather than issue press releases through Golden Boy Promotions for this particular fight? Will he ask for this sort of testing for every fight he has moving forward? We'll have to see.
Both sides deserve some sort of blame, but if the fight doesn't happen Pacquiao will look the worst out of everyone.
Whats other fight got to do with Team Mayweather??? Every team has the right to protect their fighter, Boxing is a dirty enough sport, If Team Cotto had check Margarito's glove they might not be doubting if he had a plaster cast on or not and yes the Boxing organisation signed the same gloves.
Blood testing ?? before the fight and straight after it with any amount of urine test in between sounds very reasonable to me if thats what pacs team are offering??
Thats far and away better than whats required for boxers at the moment and considering that pac has NEVER tested positive for ANYTHING it sounds very good to me. Remember, it was floyd who brought this up and it is floyd who is placing the demands on pac, not the other way around.
Wasnt Arum and Roach saying theres no way he would take the March 11th date? Floyd takes it and then Roach and Manny needed more time? Man cmon take off your Manny glasses for a second......Keep it 100 if the roles were reversed and Floyd was the one who denied the blood testing Floyd would be crucified by the public and even worse on this board than he is now
Manny wanted to fight AFTER the elections (May) PBF insisted March or no fight...here they are supposed to fight in March.
I wouldn't support Pac forcing these last minuet rule changes for PBF. Even still, Roach camp has said they'll agree to blood testing up to 3 days before the fight and after and urine tests any time. So how are they not realistically agreeing to Floyd's requests again?
to those sying testing is fine before the press conf and after the fight is fine, I just saw this posted by IMDAZED in another thread and this may kind of explain why they want it to be more random than that:
“Most states don’t test for steroids,” says Dr. Margaret Goodman, former Nevada Chief Ringside Physician and Chairman of the Nevada State Athletic Commission Medical Advisory Board. “In Nevada, we test fighters on championship cards. In New Jersey, they test every fighter for steroids. If we’d do what’s done in the Olympics or what the World Anti-Doping Agency recommends – sporadically test them during training – that would really be the best way. But if you check them right before or after a fight, they’ll test negative. Boxers are just as smart as anyone else and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to go online and look at how long a certain drug stays in your system.”