Better resume Pavlik or Williams?

Pavlik is still riding off his wins over Taylor and Miranda Both of those guys turned out to not be so good. Williams beat Mitchell, Margarito, Quintana, Phillips, Winky, and Martinez poll coming Williams. Pavlik has accomplished very little since beating Taylor. He can't ride off that forever.

Now i agree. But when the fight is about to take place? I dont know the odds but many are favoring Miranda. Miranda has an impressive win over Green. Miranda=Quintana before the Pavlik Fight. he just got kayoed too many times since. I'm pretty sure he's only been KO'd once since, against Abraham. I'm not sure why everyone is having a problem with my post, his 4 losses are to AA twice, Pavlik, and Ward. All of those guys are World Champions, Pavlik and Ward are arguably top 1 or 2 in their divisions, and AA was top 2 at MW and now a top SMW contender. Quintana lost by KO to Williams and Cotto, and besides Williams and Cotto has never fought top level opposition. If I am mistaken, again, please correct me, but I don't see how it's so obvious to some that Miranda and Quintana are worlds apart in talent.

:no::no:........ ok. I'll change my opinion on this if you prove your point instead of just shake your head. I didn't say Miranda is better, they are equal. Quintana's biggest win up to the time they fought was Joel Julio. Miranda's biggest win to date was Allan Green. In my estimation those wins are about equal, the Green win maybe slightly better. I cannot count the fight vs. Paul Williams because I am judging their resumes by who they fought besides Pavlik or Williams. If I am missing a big Quintana win please let me know.

pavlik's resume at 160 is better, but that's not pwill's fault because he couldn't get 147 lbers to fight him

:no::no:........ Now i agree. But when the fight is about to take place? I dont know the odds but many are favoring Miranda. Miranda has an impressive win over Green. Miranda=Quintana before the Pavlik Fight. he just got kayoed too many times since.

If we were speaking of resume overall, its a draw but if you only mention about wins, Pwill got it.

They're close but Paul Williams has a better one.

Can't win a fight by clinching your opponent to death, should have been Dq'd for that awful performance. And in this video with Pavlik crying like a vag, even he said that Calzaghe and Taylor both beat Hopkins. So your bf, believes Calz and taylor beat Hopkins. And before you start saying thats just how Pavlik talks after his first loss, lets rewind back to Calzaghe-Lacy where Lacy showed more respect after losing to Calzaghe. Pavlik is an ass. I really just feel bad for you. You're not even making a point. I'm not even gonna respond to the rest of your post, since it's obvious you don't listen to anything anyone else is saying. you're kinda like the crazy bum in the street just shouting profanities at the sky:nonono:.

Well Williams Should had lost to Martinez, so....... Anywaywas they are about even!!!! Still Pavlik will KHTFO!!!! Either man could have won, regardless, Paul got the win.

Easily Paul Williams.

Miranda=Quintana . :no::no:........

Pavlik is still riding off his wins over Taylor and Miranda Both of those guys turned out to not be so good. Williams beat Mitchell, Margarito, Quintana, Phillips, Winky, and Martinez poll coming Hopkins>Winky Taylor>Margarito Miranda=Quintana Martinez is what makes them equal. Philips is about on the level with the other scrubs Pavlik fought, like a McKart or Zertuche. Also, if we're arguing about Hopkins beating Pavlik, then let's talk about both man's losses. One moved up 2 classes in weight and lost decisively to an ATG who many thought beat Joe Calzaghe the fight before, proving he was still a phenomenal fighter. The other lost decisively against a guy who never beat an elite fighter in his life before Paul, was half his size, and at best a top 10 WW. He knocked him out the next fight but a loss is a loss. Not sure how anyone can say Paul has such a clear edge in his list of quality opposition.

Easy question...although I thought P. Will lost to Martinez

Paul Williams

Pavlik is still riding off his wins over Taylor and Miranda Both of those guys turned out to not be so good. Williams beat Mitchell, Margarito, Quintana, Phillips, Winky, and Martinez poll coming I like how you wrote off Taylor and Miranda like they suck, but you got Mitchell, Quintana, Phillips, and Winky up there like they were in their primes and have nothing even slightly negative to say about them.:lol1: Also, you forgot to mention one small name on Kelly's resume, Hopkins. Totally non-bias post, way to go.

I think it's pretty close when Pavlik won the linear title and Williams won the wbo belt, but Williams might hold it on opposition.

the punisher no doubt...