Is Pavliks punch output underrated?

These are the compubox stats from the Espino fight, Rounds 1-5(5 ender early). I don't make shit up buddy. Get your facts straight before you comment on a fighter you obviously don't have a clue about. If I went back to the Miranda fight, and both Taylor fights, and any fight besides the B-Hop fight, I guarantee you will find the same exact kinda numbers. Get a clue. :spank: Pavlik 48/107 50/99 47/101 41/87 31/60 Espino 27/57 35/76 49/86 24/73 20/43 pwnage THANK YOU. here's the Espino fight stats. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=compubox-pavlik-espino 107, 99, 101. Rounds 1-3.:fing26: pwnage again Pavlik gets his kicks off fighting Gary Lockett type opponents. can you give pavlik any credit? damn! I mean, if pavlik is shit, the pwill might as welll not fight him.

Pavlik gets his kicks off fighting Gary Lockett type opponents. The difference between the two of us is when I post it is usually to make or support a point. You post because you like to either hate, bitch or complain about a fighter you don't like.

he has a very good output for a mw. the haters around here are a bunch of little girls acting like cunts. you ****ers should be ashamed to pretend to be fans of the sport. the sport is not full of one type of fighting style. and who want's to watch the same style over, and over? people like pavlik are great for the sport, and bring a different style, and game to help diversify the sport for the fans. ****in morons are ignorant. Yep:boxing:

Pavlik doesn't throw punches, he stood there last night and Espino fell into Pavlik and hurt himself. naw, really I thnink his activity is kind of underated here are his stats: http://www.compuboxonline.com/notes/pavlik_notes.shtml * BORN: YOUNGSTOWN,OH…ALSO BIRTHPLACE OF LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPS RAY “BOOM BOOM” MANCINI (WBA- ’82-’84) AND HARRY ARROYO (IBF-’84-’85) * MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION (wbc & wbo)..other champs: wba-Felix Sturm; ibf-Arthur Abraham * FIRST DEFENSE OF MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP. * 33 FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 125 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 3.8 ROUNDS * HAS 29 KO’S IN 33 FIGHTS (88%) * HAS 7 FIRST ROUND KO’S * KO’S BY ROUND- 1ST-7; 2ND-12; 3RD-2; 4th-1; 6th-2; 7th-3; 8th-1; 9th-1 2/16/08 W 12 JERMAIN TAYLOR (non-title rematch. Pavlik landed 32% of his 70 punches thrown per round (267 of 845) to 178 of 456 (39%-38 thrown per round) for Taylor, who acquitted himself well, landing 46% of his power shots (76 of 164) to 123 of 361 (34%) for Pavlik. Pavlik also landed 30% of his 40 jabs thrown per round (144 of 484) to 102 of 292 (35%) for Taylor. Scoring: 116-112 P; 117-111 P; 115-113 P.) 9/29/07 KO 7 JERMAIN TAYLOR (won Taylor’s middleweight title. Excellent give and take first round, with Pavlik landing 20 of 40 power shots, Taylor 14 of 34. Pavlik’s were landing cleaner. In round two, Pavlik was hurt by right hand that landed behind his left ear. A series of punches put him down . Pavlik nearly went down again in the round, but survived. Taylor landed 42 of 50 power shots in the round, throwing 75 total punches. He later said he punched himself out in the round. Taylor’s career high for punches in a round is 94, in the third round, vs. Freddie Cuevas. Pavlik pulled himself together in round three, outlanding Taylor 22-11 in power shots, as Taylor threw just 41 total punches in the round to 99 for Pavlik. They traded hard shots in rounds four thru six, with Pavlik’s power shots landing cleaner. Taylor’s face swelled by the end of round six. In round seven, a flush right hand stopped Taylor in his tracks. Another right hand buckeled Taylor’s knees and drove him to the ropes. A left hook followed by several more power shots sent Taylor to the canvas in a heap. The end came at 2:14 of the seventh. Overall Pavlik landed 40% of his 74 total punches thrown per round and 48% of his power shots, landing the cleaner, harder shots all night. Taylor landed 49% of his 55 punches thrown per round and 65% of his power shots, bolstered by his 42 of 50 outburst in round two. Scoring thru 6: 59-54 T; 58-55 T 2x.) 5/19/07 KO 7 EDISON MIRANDA (took apart the crude, hard hitting Miranda, landing an average of 29 power punches per round, more than double the middleweight avg. Overall, landed 242 of 539 total punches (45%) to 111 of 504 (22%) for Miranda. That’s an avg. of 81 total punches thrown per round for Pavlik. The middleweight avg. is 57 total punches thrown per round. Landed 193 of 418 power shots (46%) to 90 of 345 (26%) for Miranda.) 1/27/07 KO 8 JOSE LUIS ZERTUCHE (blowout city from opening bell. Outlanded Zertuche 248-92, throwing 622 punches in 7 ½ rounds, an average of 83 punches thrown per round. Landed 51% of his power shots. Also avg’d 34 jabs per round. Outlanded Zertuche 38-2 in power hots in 7th & 8th rounds.) 11/2/06 KO 4 LENORD PIERRRE (butchered overmatched Pierre, outlanding him 26-8 in power shots in 1st; 27-11 in 2nd and 27-5 in 3rd before end came at :46 of 4th. Pavlik landed 44 of 119 total punches in 1st; 30 of 94 in 2nd and 38 of 89 in 3rd. Pierre, was ko’d in 1 by John Duddy on 3/18/05 and ko’d in 12th by Willlie Gibbs (3/10/06) in a fight he was leading on 2 cards into 12th. Pavlik got off 326 total punches.) 7/27/06 KO 6 BRONCO MCKART (broke down Bronco with relentless, close range attack, stopping McKart for the first time in his 55-fight career. Pavlik avg’d 89 punches per round, 69 of those were power shots, landing 29%. McKart had his moments, landing 56% of his power shots (31 per round), with no effect on The Ghost. ) 10/7/05 KO 9 FULGENCIO ZUNIGA (rebounded from first round knockdown, courtesy of Zuniga left hook. Dominated from third round on with high work rate, averaging 88 punches per round, landing 27%. Also landed 36% of his power shots and averaged 32 jabs per round. Threw 102 punches in 5th and 117 in 8th. Fight stopped in Zuniga’s corner after 9th due to bad cut the occurred in 8th. Zuniga was game, averaging 84 punches per round. Pavlik just 211-171 edge in total connects over 17-1-1 Zuniga, who drew with Zertuche on 4/8/05.) Pavlik also avg’d 77 punches per round in ko wins over Contender champ Grady Brewer, Rico Cason, Abel Hernandez, Cedric Johnson & Benito Tzand. He landed 30% overall and averaged 29 jabs per round. THANK YOU. here's the Espino fight stats. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=compubox-pavlik-espino 107, 99, 101. Rounds 1-3.:fing26:

he has a very good output for a mw. the haters around here are a bunch of little girls acting like cunts. you ****ers should be ashamed to pretend to be fans of the sport. the sport is not full of one type of fighting style. and who want's to watch the same style over, and over? people like pavlik are great for the sport, and bring a different style, and game to help diversify the sport for the fans. ****in morons are ignorant.

Pavlik doesn't throw punches, he stood there last night and Espino fell into Pavlik and hurt himself. naw, really I thnink his activity is kind of underated here are his stats: http://www.compuboxonline.com/notes/pavlik_notes.shtml * BORN: YOUNGSTOWN,OH…ALSO BIRTHPLACE OF LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPS RAY “BOOM BOOM” MANCINI (WBA- ’82-’84) AND HARRY ARROYO (IBF-’84-’85) * MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION (wbc & wbo)..other champs: wba-Felix Sturm; ibf-Arthur Abraham * FIRST DEFENSE OF MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP. * 33 FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 125 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 3.8 ROUNDS * HAS 29 KO’S IN 33 FIGHTS (88%) * HAS 7 FIRST ROUND KO’S * KO’S BY ROUND- 1ST-7; 2ND-12; 3RD-2; 4th-1; 6th-2; 7th-3; 8th-1; 9th-1 2/16/08 W 12 JERMAIN TAYLOR (non-title rematch. Pavlik landed 32% of his 70 punches thrown per round (267 of 845) to 178 of 456 (39%-38 thrown per round) for Taylor, who acquitted himself well, landing 46% of his power shots (76 of 164) to 123 of 361 (34%) for Pavlik. Pavlik also landed 30% of his 40 jabs thrown per round (144 of 484) to 102 of 292 (35%) for Taylor. Scoring: 116-112 P; 117-111 P; 115-113 P.) 9/29/07 KO 7 JERMAIN TAYLOR (won Taylor’s middleweight title. Excellent give and take first round, with Pavlik landing 20 of 40 power shots, Taylor 14 of 34. Pavlik’s were landing cleaner. In round two, Pavlik was hurt by right hand that landed behind his left ear. A series of punches put him down . Pavlik nearly went down again in the round, but survived. Taylor landed 42 of 50 power shots in the round, throwing 75 total punches. He later said he punched himself out in the round. Taylor’s career high for punches in a round is 94, in the third round, vs. Freddie Cuevas. Pavlik pulled himself together in round three, outlanding Taylor 22-11 in power shots, as Taylor threw just 41 total punches in the round to 99 for Pavlik. They traded hard shots in rounds four thru six, with Pavlik’s power shots landing cleaner. Taylor’s face swelled by the end of round six. In round seven, a flush right hand stopped Taylor in his tracks. Another right hand buckeled Taylor’s knees and drove him to the ropes. A left hook followed by several more power shots sent Taylor to the canvas in a heap. The end came at 2:14 of the seventh. Overall Pavlik landed 40% of his 74 total punches thrown per round and 48% of his power shots, landing the cleaner, harder shots all night. Taylor landed 49% of his 55 punches thrown per round and 65% of his power shots, bolstered by his 42 of 50 outburst in round two. Scoring thru 6: 59-54 T; 58-55 T 2x.) 5/19/07 KO 7 EDISON MIRANDA (took apart the crude, hard hitting Miranda, landing an average of 29 power punches per round, more than double the middleweight avg. Overall, landed 242 of 539 total punches (45%) to 111 of 504 (22%) for Miranda. That’s an avg. of 81 total punches thrown per round for Pavlik. The middleweight avg. is 57 total punches thrown per round. Landed 193 of 418 power shots (46%) to 90 of 345 (26%) for Miranda.) 1/27/07 KO 8 JOSE LUIS ZERTUCHE (blowout city from opening bell. Outlanded Zertuche 248-92, throwing 622 punches in 7 ½ rounds, an average of 83 punches thrown per round. Landed 51% of his power shots. Also avg’d 34 jabs per round. Outlanded Zertuche 38-2 in power hots in 7th & 8th rounds.) 11/2/06 KO 4 LENORD PIERRRE (butchered overmatched Pierre, outlanding him 26-8 in power shots in 1st; 27-11 in 2nd and 27-5 in 3rd before end came at :46 of 4th. Pavlik landed 44 of 119 total punches in 1st; 30 of 94 in 2nd and 38 of 89 in 3rd. Pierre, was ko’d in 1 by John Duddy on 3/18/05 and ko’d in 12th by Willlie Gibbs (3/10/06) in a fight he was leading on 2 cards into 12th. Pavlik got off 326 total punches.) 7/27/06 KO 6 BRONCO MCKART (broke down Bronco with relentless, close range attack, stopping McKart for the first time in his 55-fight career. Pavlik avg’d 89 punches per round, 69 of those were power shots, landing 29%. McKart had his moments, landing 56% of his power shots (31 per round), with no effect on The Ghost. ) 10/7/05 KO 9 FULGENCIO ZUNIGA (rebounded from first round knockdown, courtesy of Zuniga left hook. Dominated from third round on with high work rate, averaging 88 punches per round, landing 27%. Also landed 36% of his power shots and averaged 32 jabs per round. Threw 102 punches in 5th and 117 in 8th. Fight stopped in Zuniga’s corner after 9th due to bad cut the occurred in 8th. Zuniga was game, averaging 84 punches per round. Pavlik just 211-171 edge in total connects over 17-1-1 Zuniga, who drew with Zertuche on 4/8/05.) Pavlik also avg’d 77 punches per round in ko wins over Contender champ Grady Brewer, Rico Cason, Abel Hernandez, Cedric Johnson & Benito Tzand. He landed 30% overall and averaged 29 jabs per round.

I don't care Pavlik is a fruit, of course he can throw 100 plus punches against Mediocre opponents since its not going the distance. This is from Cleveland.com after Pavlik-Miranda. Keep in mind the fight ended pretty much at the beginning of the 7th round. So over 6 rounds, he threw a total of 540 punches. That averages out to 90 punches per round against Edison Miranda. So he prolly threw 100 once or twice. and if not he threw 97 or 98. Either way, you guys are al lookin pretty foolish in this thread. According to CompuBox statistics from HBO: Pavlik landed 242 of 539 punches (45 percent), Miranda landed 111 of 504 punches (22 percent). On power punches: Pavlik landed 193 of 418 (46 percent); Miranda landed 90 of 345 (26 percent).

Show us the numbers man, this is BS. 100+ punches a round?! :wtf1: You must be thinking of Williams. start with his last fight and work backwards. 100% guaranteed the numbers are there, or i leave this forum forever. thanks for helpin to prove my point.

No. He should actually get more cred for that than his power.

Show us the numbers man, this is BS. 100+ punches a round?! :wtf1: You must be thinking of Williams. Look at the compubox stats of punches per round of any MW fight he's ever been in, you will see that you are lost.

So which fight did he do that in? The one where he threw 100 punches per round at air against BHOP? The fight where he cried like a little bitch and said that Bhop is shit and that he just had an off-night? No, just every single other fight that he's been in...

Show us the numbers man, this is BS. 100+ punches a round?! :wtf1: You must be thinking of Williams.

Kelly Pavlik might throw alot of punches but not over a 100 punches a round!Wake up. Your right 100 this guy is waaaay off. Its more like 80. :banana:

Not being a hater.I just want somebody to tell me one fight where Pavlik threw over a hundred puches in a "Round".I'm definitely not a hater.That's not my way but i love Boxing and i watch all the fights and i know Pavlik's style and being that busy in a round is not kelly Pavlik style. This, by the way, is exactly the type of person this poll is meant to point out.

Kelly Pavlik might throw alot of punches but not over a 100 punches a round!Wake up. You look like a fool.

Okay tell me one fight where Kelly Pavlik threw over 100 punches!I have never seen a fight where he threw that many punches.Bernard Hopkins is the first skilled fighter that Pavlik had faced.He hasn't fought any worthy opponets since Taylor2.Guys you have to get your facts before posting on here.You can't find one fight where kelly Pavlik thre over 100 punches. These are the compubox stats from the Espino fight, Rounds 1-5(5 ender early). I don't make shit up buddy. Get your facts straight before you comment on a fighter you obviously don't have a clue about. If I went back to the Miranda fight, and both Taylor fights, and any fight besides the B-Hop fight, I guarantee you will find the same exact kinda numbers. Get a clue. :spank: Pavlik 48/107 50/99 47/101 41/87 31/60 Espino 27/57 35/76 49/86 24/73 20/43

No one ever said they were all hard. I don't think anyone has ever made that argument. Point of this comment? Try not to be such an obvious hater. Kelly Pavlik might throw alot of punches but not over a 100 punches a round!Wake up.

No one ever said they were all hard. I don't think anyone has ever made that argument. Point of this comment? Try not to be such an obvious hater. Not being a hater.I just want somebody to tell me one fight where Pavlik threw over a hundred puches in a "Round".I'm definitely not a hater.That's not my way but i love Boxing and i watch all the fights and i know Pavlik's style and being that busy in a round is not kelly Pavlik style.

everyone knows he throws alot of punches or they should if they watch boxing regularly.

If he is throwing that many, then they aren't all hard punches. No one ever said they were all hard. I don't think anyone has ever made that argument. Point of this comment? Try not to be such an obvious hater.