"Other than Amir Khan as Pacquiao's main sparring partner, I like to include Timothy Bradley in my list."
http://philboxing.com/news/story-31461.html
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dunno know if bradley would take it though since he is at a position to be pac future opponent if ever pac does go back to 140.
Money talks man.
I wouldn't be surprised if Bradley goes just to take notes on Amir Khan.
Your talking 2000 a week tops man. Get informed. Bradley would cost at least 100 g's to do this and no sparring partner has ever gotten that.
Bradley will not be in camp with Pac. Trust me.
The Petersons were in camp with Zab in prep for Mayweather and it was raved about at that time how they emulated Mayweather. Plus they are Top Rank fighters now.
Peterson, Peterson, Forbes would get it done.
Actually I was semi-replying to the guy you replied to. :lol1:
Yeah, I kinda figured that out a bit too late. :D
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"Other than Amir Khan as Pacquiao's main sparring partner, I like to include Timothy Bradley in my list."
http://philboxing.com/news/story-31461.html
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dunno know if bradley would take it though since he is at a position to be pac future opponent if ever pac does go back to 140.
bradley's movement against peterson was really good. also, peterson gave floyd a hard time in sparring and broke his ribs.
Right. I think me and you are actually on the same page, pretty much. Maybe I misunderstood your other post. But anyway...
Actually I was semi-replying to the guy you replied to. :lol1:
That's exactly the point. You'll never find anyone who fights exactly like Mayweather or Pac. You CAN find people who are better or about equal in certain aspects of Mayweather's game such as speed and footwork.
I'm sure Roach is using Bradleys exceptional footwork and movement from a tactical perspective. You don't just put two guys in a ring and yell "Spar!".
Bradley will be encouraged to use his movement a lot. Khan will be encouraged to potshot and counterpunch a lot. Both of them in conjunction will help in dealing with Mayweather's overall style.
Sparring a poor mans version of either fighter will just boost confidence, not skills, just like what happened to Cotto. He had some piss-poor Pacquiao imitations to spar with and thought he could handle the real thing.
Right. I think me and you are actually on the same page, pretty much. Maybe I misunderstood your other post. But anyway...
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This will never happen. Gary Shaw won't let it. This is Roach trying to get an indepth look at Bradley for a future Khan fight.
I still think a combo of Anthony & Lamont Peterson plus Forbes would get it done.
I would be shocked if Bradley was there.
Money talks man.
I wouldn't be surprised if Bradley goes just to take notes on Amir Khan.
No, it is about training for styles, and more specifically, coming up with a game plan to beat that style. All those things you mentioned -- footwork, speed, movement -- go towards the make up of Mayweather's style. They are all important parts of it and they need to be focused on.
"No one gains anything from sparring a half-assed Pac or Mayweather imitation."
They'd benefit more from that than Bradley coming in throwing a million punches, which was my main point.
That's exactly the point. You'll never find anyone who fights exactly like Mayweather or Pac. You CAN find people who are better or about equal in certain aspects of Mayweather's game such as speed and footwork.
I'm sure Roach is using Bradleys exceptional footwork and movement from a tactical perspective. You don't just put two guys in a ring and yell "Spar!".
Bradley will be encouraged to use his movement a lot. Khan will be encouraged to potshot and counterpunch a lot. Both of them in conjunction will help in dealing with Mayweather's overall style.
Sparring a poor mans version of either fighter will just boost confidence, not skills, just like what happened to Cotto. He had some piss-poor Pacquiao imitations to spar with and thought he could handle the real thing.
This will never happen. Gary Shaw won't let it. This is Roach trying to get an indepth look at Bradley for a future Khan fight.
I still think a combo of Anthony & Lamont Peterson plus Forbes would get it done.
I would be shocked if Bradley was there.
even derrick gainer's enough to prepare him for floyd with the help of amir khan ofcourse......:boxing:
Derrick Gainer is a southpaw. I don't see how that would help at all.
thats gonna be awkward, bradley and khan would be together everyday in the philippines and they are supposed to fight each other in 2010. But of course bradley is a super nice guy type with no ego so I don't see a problem.
Amir Khan is to match, exceed and get used to Mayweather's type of speed.
Tim Bradley is to match, exceed and get used to Mayweather's type of footwork and movement.
It's not about training for styles.
Zab Judah is fast and is a southpaw. That's where the similarities end between him and Pac. I think that's all Mayweather needs him for though. To get used to Pac type speed and the openings in a southpaw stance.
No one gains anything from sparring a half-assed Pac or Mayweather imitation.
No, it is about training for styles, and more specifically, coming up with a game plan to beat that style. All those things you mentioned -- footwork, speed, movement -- go towards the make up of Mayweather's syle. They are all important parts of it and they need to be focused on.
"No one gains anything from sparring a half-assed Pac or Mayweather imitation."
They'd benefit more from that than Bradley coming in throwing a million punches, which was my main point.
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Did you see Bradleys footwork in his recent win over Peterson?
It was definitely up there with Pac and Mayweather.
Roach is using these guys to prepare for Mayweather's Speed and Movement.
Hopefully Bradley comes on board.
Yes Bradley has good footwork but I still don't see any similarities in their style. Either way it's just sparring and neither fighter Mayweather,Pacquiao) is going to find an exact match for the other. But I just don't see any traits of Mayweather in Bradley when you look at their styles in the ring. I do understand what you're saying though and Bradley certianly won't hurt anything as a sparring partner.
You don't even get it. Sparring isn't about your partner fighting like he normally does unless his style is similar to the guy you'll be fighting. Bradley throwing 1000's of punches? WTF man. Even I, a mere boxing fan, can tell you that would be useless for preparation. You seriously think Roach is gonna tell Bradley to come in and be his usual self? Bradley will be working on certain moves, FFS. For all we know, Bradley might be able to emulate certain styles well. Mosley can do it. Plenty of fighters can do it.
Amir Khan is to match, exceed and get used to Mayweather's type of speed.
Tim Bradley is to match, exceed and get used to Mayweather's type of footwork and movement.
It's not about training for styles.
Zab Judah is fast and is a southpaw. That's where the similarities end between him and Pac. I think that's all Mayweather needs him for though. To get used to Pac type speed and the openings in a southpaw stance.
No one gains anything from sparring a half-assed Pac or Mayweather imitation.
Roach is stupid as hell....
Khan and Bradley...
First off Khan isnt even going to give Pac any work..because Roach wot want Pac to hurt him...and Bradley is a a guy who NEVER stops throwing punches.....Floyd is a guy who RARELY throws punches.
Roach is a grade A Dipshit retard.
Has he ever heard of Forbes or Guzman.
You don't even get it. Sparring isn't about your partner fighting like he normally does unless his style is similar to the guy you'll be fighting. Bradley throwing 1000's of punches? WTF man. Even I, a mere boxing fan, can tell you that would be useless for preparation. You seriously think Roach is gonna tell Bradley to come in and be his usual self? Bradley will be working on certain moves, FFS. For all we know, Bradley might be able to emulate certain styles well. Mosley can do it. Plenty of fighters can do it.
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So Roach are recruiting guys who FIGHT NOTHING like Mayweather.
Brilliant.
Forbes, Guzman ring a bell...dumbass.
Come on Burner. Don't you yourself get tired of posting such hard-edged views? I know you're frontin on here, you ain't like this is real life.
Let me ask you though -- in what way is Zab Judah similar to Pacquiao? He fights nothing like Pacquiao, he just happens to fight from a southpaw stance.
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Roach is stupid as hell....
Khan and Bradley...
First off Khan isnt even going to give Pac any work..because Roach wot want Pac to hurt him...and Bradley is a a guy who NEVER stops throwing punches.....Floyd is a guy who RARELY throws punches.
Roach is a grade A Dipshit retard.
Has he ever heard of Forbes or Guzman.
wow you clearly are a retarded noob
watch more boxing plz, guzman!? rofl
He could spar Floyd himself...it stil wont matter..nothing can prepare him for a guy like Mayweather.
Same goes the other way. As long as they are getting high quality sparring it's all good.
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I don't think they are alike at all.
Did you see Bradleys footwork in his recent win over Peterson?
It was definitely up there with Pac and Mayweather.
Roach is using these guys to prepare for Mayweather's Speed and Movement.
Hopefully Bradley comes on board.
He could spar Floyd himself...it stil wont matter..nothing can prepare him for a guy like Mayweather.
Is there anything that can prepare Floyd for a guy like Pac?