Has Arum done a good job as Cotto's promoter ? Cotto has been thrown to wolves in a sense, he has fought the best available and some seem to think he has lost a bit physically due to the hard fights he has been in.
Quintana, Margarito, Clottey, Pacquiao,
Cotto’s “track” performance made him an ass load of more money than the robbery Paul won against Martinez. Remember the topic of the thread was if you felt Bob Arum did a good job in promoting Cotto. Considering Cotto has sold out more fights then any of P. Williams performances I’d say Bob has done a good job what say you?
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This may sound like I'm bringing race into this, but black boxers don't have the kind of fan bases that Latino fighters do. Look at Arreola. He doesn't have half the talent that Paul Williams does, and he's a Goosen promoted fighter with a fan base. The Puerto Ricans just flocked to Cotto because they saw him on HBO knocking out C level opponents and thought he could go further, but they were wrong just like the Mexicans are with Arreola. Cotto's amateur career is another thing that helped his Puerto Rican fan base. Williams didn't have that luxury.
Oh props to Cotto for taking the fight, I just think his promoter should've advised him against it, especially with much better paying possible match ups against Floyd or DLH waiting in the wings. In the DLH case, more winnable as well.
I see what you’re saying and I can’t knock you for it, the thing is Bob would have made so much more money with two of his own top stable fighters in Cotto/Margarito then having to split any of the percentages of the earnings to another promoter.
The stage was set for these two fighters to meet and I agree Gomez wasn’t a good choice, but if some no name banger were to come along and knock Cotto’s block off (it almost happened with Torres) then the Cotto/Margarito fight would have been shot down quick. There was too much money to be made.
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I agree but Cotto still took the fight despite how much Margarito was being painted as the welter weight’s division King Kong. Many of the other welter weights wanted no part of Margarito (Floyd included) Cotto did it without hesitation.
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Oh props to Cotto for taking the fight, I just think his promoter should've advised him against it, especially with much better paying possible match ups against Floyd or DLH waiting in the wings. In the DLH case, more winnable as well.
I'll watch the replay of Paul Williams' fight with Martinez on HBO boxing's 2009's best any day of the week before I watch Cotto's track performance against little Pac. Peace.
Cotto’s “track” performance made him an ass load of more money than the robbery Paul won against Martinez. Remember the topic of the thread was if you felt Bob Arum did a good job in promoting Cotto. Considering Cotto has sold out more fights then any of P. Williams performances I’d say Bob has done a good job what say you?
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But it’s still better than P. Williams resume minus the hype. Oh by the way, how many pay-per view buys did P. Williams do (if any) that can compare to Cotto?
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I'll watch the replay of Paul Williams' fight with Martinez on HBO boxing's 2009's best any day of the week before I watch Cotto's track performance against little Pac. Peace.
Perfect.. He fought all the best WW's and the no. 1 P4P and made good money(enough to give him a more than stable life after boxing).. What more can you ask?? That's what's suppose to happen.. Great job by arum and cotto for taking on everyone..
He did a great job. He brought him along pretty slowly, upping the opponent just a tad each time and making sure to put in tune-up fights where needed. Cotto would have beat Margarito without the loaded gloves. Cotto-Pacquiao was a huge payday for both guys, and Cotto should have been undefeated going into it. Cotto could not have done more in his career than he did. It was a really strong career. He's no ATG, but he did a great job with what he had.
it's kind of a catch 22 because cotto has been fighting tough fight after tough fight, but if he were to take on easy opponents then he would get no credit for anything. one thing i think at least in my opinion, that cotto has had a great career and has been in some serious wars, a little time off and some regrouping, and a new trainer and i think cotto will be in the top 3 of his weight class, at the A level.
i wasn't really a big cotto fan until the last few years, because he was being hyped up, but once i looked through all the fanboy shit, i noticed a class act in cotto and a true professional. i realized cotto is a asset to the sport and needs to be respected cause of that.
as far as arum and cotto's career being good or bad, i think it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't.
cotto can be back and come back good, he's a resilient fighter, with the right trainer, he can be world champ again, if he wants to?
Pretty decent, except for the Margarito fight, that was clearly a bad style match up for him.
I agree but Cotto still took the fight despite how much Margarito was being painted as the welter weight’s division King Kong. Many of the other welter weights wanted no part of Margarito (Floyd included) Cotto did it without hesitation.
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No, because Cotto's record indicates a pattern. He'd go from a cupcake to an A-level opponent, and he wouldn't be ready for that A-level opponent. The only examples of where he fought two good fighters in a row were Judah (iffy) and Mosley, then Clottey and Pacquiao. You don't go from fighting Alfonzo Gomez to Antonio Margarito because it can give you a false since of confidence and the not know how of what to do when you are up against adversity. Cotto's resume gets too much credit around here.
What is the job of the promoter?
And, explain to me where Top rank went wrong with Cotto career?
No, because Cotto's record indicates a pattern. He'd go from a cupcake to an A-level opponent, and he wouldn't be ready for that A-level opponent. The only examples of where he fought two good fighters in a row were Judah(iffy) and Mosley, then Clottey and Pacquiao. You don't go from fighting Alfonzo Gomez to Antonio Margarito because it can give you a false since of confidence and the not know how of what to do when you are up against adversity. Cotto's resume gets too much credit around here.
But it’s still better than P. Williams resume minus the hype. Oh by the way, how many pay-per view buys did P. Williams do (if any) that can compare to Cotto?
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No, because Cotto's record indicates a pattern. He'd go from a cupcake to an A-level opponent, and he wouldn't be ready for that A-level opponent. The only examples of where he fought two good fighters in a row were Judah (iffy) and Mosley, then Clottey and Pacquiao. You don't go from fighting Alfonzo Gomez to Antonio Margarito because it can give you a false since of confidence and the not know how of what to do when you are up against adversity. Cotto's resume gets too much credit around here.
i kind of agree with you....
after the gomex woopin cotto thought he was some kind of super slickster, he went in confident against margo taunting n shit.
No, because Cotto's record indicates a pattern. He'd go from a cupcake to an A-level opponent, and he wouldn't be ready for that A-level opponent. The only examples of where he fought two good fighters in a row were Judah (iffy) and Mosley, then Clottey and Pacquiao. You don't go from fighting Alfonzo Gomez to Antonio Margarito because it can give you a false since of confidence and the not know how of what to do when you are up against adversity. Cotto's resume gets too much credit around here.
Other than never getting Cotto the fight he wanted the most (De La Hoya) he has done a pretty good job. But Cotto really wanted De La Hoya and even sort of call him out after his fight with Abdulaev but that never came and Cotto lost his chance at it after his loss to Margarito.
Could you imagine the fight that would’ve been? I think unlike the Manny/Oscar scrap that would’ve been more competitive.
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Bob did a perfect job bringing Cotto up. Actually is one of the most perfect promoted careers.
Arum brought him to 2 big fights that could have catapulted Cotto to the Mayweather/Pacquiao and he failed, not anybodys fault but his!!!!
Co-sign, I don’t think Bob couldn’t have done a better job then what he already did with Cotto. Cotto could’ve been with Don King and left for the vultures after Cotto lost to Margarito but Bob kept him on track for an even bigger event in Manny. No shame in losing it comes with the business.
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ask cotto if he thinks bob hurt him when he bribed the judges against clottey...bob did all he could and im sure if he could have he wouldnt have let him fight margachito but like everyone else he simply didnt know till he got caught...other then that cotto has only himself to blame for his constant whoppings.
What rounds did Clottey clearly win? And, I am not talking about close swing rounds. I am talking about rounds Clottey clearly won?