i agree that boxing fans tend to wax lyrical about past fighters. There are plenty of the modern era who would whoop alot of guys ranked ahead of them on ATG lists quite easily.
But lets be serious Pac fans have him as a top 5 atg.....thats just not accurate or reasonable when all his victories are placed in context. I see far more Pac fans claiming he is top 5 atg or top 10 atg or just the plain no 1 atg compared to most of floyd fans on here who don't have the temerity to do shit like that.
How can Pac or Floyd be top ten stg with names like this:
- SRR
- SRL
- Duran
- Pep
- Armstrong
- Archie Moore
- Hearns
- Pryor
- Sweet Pea
- Ali
- Louis
- Foreman
the list goes on and on. From my POV neither floyd nor Pac have cracked the top 20 atg list.
of course, of course! im not saying that neither pac or floyd are top 20. but i am saying as you do that they might beat a lot of the ATGs. but still they cant be put ahead of them simply for their record. i am a pacman fan, and on my list he is around 20. top 1, 5, 10 is delusional. :)
It would definitely be Pacquiao if he beats Mayweather Jr. That means Pacquiao would have wins over Mayweather Jr, Cotto, Hatton, Morales, De La Hoya, Barrera, Marquez... His resume would be sick...
I do agree if PAC fights & beats Mayweather .... Manny will be the best southpaw ever!
People seem to overrate the oldtimers, like they were some unbeatable superhumans! who can say how pac would do against them? its like people find a hard time being objective about this.
stop being so obsessed about older eras and give the new some credit. jeez
i agree that boxing fans tend to wax lyrical about past fighters. There are plenty of the modern era who would whoop alot of guys ranked ahead of them on ATG lists quite easily.
But lets be serious Pac fans have him as a top 5 atg.....thats just not accurate or reasonable when all his victories are placed in context. I see far more Pac fans claiming he is top 5 atg or top 10 atg or just the plain no 1 atg compared to most of floyd fans on here who don't have the temerity to do shit like that.
How can Pac or Floyd be top ten stg with names like this:
- SRR
- SRL
- Duran
- Pep
- Armstrong
- Archie Moore
- Hearns
- Pryor
- Sweet Pea
- Ali
- Louis
- Foreman
the list goes on and on. From my POV neither floyd nor Pac have cracked the top 20 atg list.
Hahahaahaha
Pac is not done yet and many people already have him as one. But i'll disqualify him now because he's active.
I'll take Marvin Hagler over Pernell. :)
I have to agree with you bro, I will also choose Hagler over Pernell anytime anywehere....
IMHO as it is ...
Hagler No. 1 Left handed All-Around Fighter
Pernell No. 1 Left handed Defensive Fighter
PAC No. 1 Left handed Offensive Fighter
best southpaws: Marvin Hagler (people are still underrating him) and Pernell Whitaker. Maybe even Pacquiao depending on his future legacy too.. but i think he has at least some right to be on the top 10 southpaws list.
People seem to overrate the oldtimers, like they were some unbeatable superhumans! who can say how pac would do against them? its like people find a hard time being objective about this.
stop being so obsessed about older eras and give the new some credit. jeez
Bert sugar already said it's Pac!
Bert Sugar also said Jack Dempsey is to 10 ATG... You agree with that too?
He also said that Mosley is one of the best jabbers in welterweight history.
Bert Sugar is a pompous jackass.........a senile one at that.........
Whitaker defense was better just look at Whitaker-Chavez and Floyd-Castillo. I don't know where you rank Whitaker or Floyd all time. But, IMO Whitaker is like top 15. While Floyd is outside my top 50.
Floyd is outside your top 50 but Michael Spinks arguably top 50?