People hyped this dude up for beating up on people half his size. For beating a 40yr old Verno, for koing yes a top 200 ranked Kolle, for beating a retired old winky. Lets just call pall a good fighter who is tall and lanky and fights with alot of heart. lets not make him out to be unstoppable or great. Everyone knew he had bad footwork, everyone knew he was easy to hit, everyone knew he was yet to be tested since the Margarito fight. he finally fought someone who was good and we see what happened. Martinez is NO WHERE near considered a hard hitter and yet he sent williams flying to floor and was buckling and hurting williams all night. Now we know why williams avoided people his size his whole career. Lets call a spade a spade now. Burner and that jantzen idiot now need to shut the fuk up and find a new dick to suck on.
and pwill was supposed to kill pavlik??? :rofl: A Pavlik right hand would CRUSH williams.
you mean cintron the WW?
they were fighting at 160 yesterday
Martinez is big for a Junior Middleweight though. I think he even had a problem making 154 which is why both guys agreed to 160.
yea im sure williams made all the 160lbers shake in their shoes last night. I mean martinez is a HUGE puncher and williams was taking them like pebbles being thrown at him. Williams has a great chin! i mean a 154 soft hitting martinez slamming him was nothing for williams. If pavlik hit him with a right williams would laugh at him!
Ask Kermit Cintron if Sergio Martinez doesn't have any power. He complained about a head butt when Martinez nailed him right in the chops.
yea im sure williams made all the 160lbers shake in their shoes last night. I mean martinez is a HUGE puncher and williams was taking them like pebbles being thrown at him. Williams has a great chin! i mean a 154 soft hitting martinez slamming him was nothing for williams. If pavlik hit him with a right williams would laugh at him!
Well lets hope that seeing Martinez having success against Williams will help give Pavlik the confidence of actually going in and fighting Williams then? Rather than complaining about not being able to clench his fist, then a week later signing to fight a bum. You know very well that Martinez is an excellent boxer and him and Paul Williams just had an awesome fight...why are you complaining? And just because Sergio Martinez has the guts to go in and fight Paul Williams, doesn't mean other 154-160lbers do. No one in them two weight classes other than Martinez want anything to do with Paul.
So Paul Williams is not the most feared man in boxing simply because another feared guy in boxing just had an amazing fight with him? Great logic!
He is still the most feared man in boxing. You talk about him picking on smaller people than him, but Kelly Pavlik just ducked him and Kelly Pavlik is his size? None of the other middleweights want a piece of him...none of the welterweights or light middleweights wanted a piece of him other than Martinez...let's just say Martinez has balls.
yea im sure williams made all the 160lbers shake in their shoes last night. I mean martinez is a HUGE puncher and williams was taking them like pebbles being thrown at him. Williams has a great chin! i mean a 154 soft hitting martinez slamming him was nothing for williams. If pavlik hit him with a right williams would laugh at him!
When you throw 100+ punches a round, you're going to be hit a massive amount. Martinez proved that, and he also proved what I felt all along that Williams can't handle at least decent power. Sure, the guy was taking punches from WW's and a soft handed Winky Wright, and really Martinez doesn't even have much power, but there is a reason Williams only wants to fight at 147. If Pavlik tags him he may very well be put to sleep, and if he moves up to 168 and takes on AA, Kessler, Ward or the worst match up possible for him in Hopkins he'll be completely outclassed.
The most feared man in boxing... Lets be real guys, when you're 6'2" calling out guys that are 5'7" and you have a double digit reach on them, whether you can make the weight or not, the fight is a mismatch. I don't blame guys like Cotto, Mosley, Pacman, Mayweather or any WW for avoiding a fight with him. Williams can't draw for shit and at BEST he'll make them look bad simply because of his size. Not to mention once they step into the ring and people see the size difference if Williams does win it'll simply be based off his size and not for his skill. He needs to stay at 160 and do something there, but as we saw last night, he can't even do that. I've been calling him hyped and overrated since I can remember, and last night proved it. Even though I saw it as a close fight, the fact is that he will only ever be able to move DOWN in weight to be dominate, not up. The guy may very well be the best 154 or 160 pounder, however, Yahoo has him as 3 P4P... the guy shouldn't even be top 5. He should be bottom at the bottom if on there at all, he doesn't have the resume to even have in the top 10 IMO.
wow very nice post! You should post more often.
So Paul Williams is not the most feared man in boxing simply because another feared guy in boxing just had an amazing fight with him? Great logic!
He is still the most feared man in boxing. You talk about him picking on smaller people than him, but Kelly Pavlik just ducked him and Kelly Pavlik is his size? None of the other middleweights want a piece of him...none of the welterweights or light middleweights wanted a piece of him other than Martinez...let's just say Martinez has balls.
The logic of the thread is flawed. Regardless of how the fight went last night, he was the most feared man in boxing. And after what Martinez and Williams both did last night, I wouldn't be surprised to see them avoided again after showing their chin and heart.
When you throw 100+ punches a round, you're going to be hit a massive amount. Martinez proved that, and he also proved what I felt all along that Williams can't handle at least decent power. Sure, the guy was taking punches from WW's and a soft handed Winky Wright, and really Martinez doesn't even have much power, but there is a reason Williams only wants to fight at 147. If Pavlik tags him he may very well be put to sleep, and if he moves up to 168 and takes on AA, Kessler, Ward or the worst match up possible for him in Hopkins he'll be completely outclassed.
The most feared man in boxing... Lets be real guys, when you're 6'2" calling out guys that are 5'7" and you have a double digit reach on them, whether you can make the weight or not, the fight is a mismatch. I don't blame guys like Cotto, Mosley, Pacman, Mayweather or any WW for avoiding a fight with him. Williams can't draw for shit and at BEST he'll make them look bad simply because of his size. Not to mention once they step into the ring and people see the size difference if Williams does win it'll simply be based off his size and not for his skill. He needs to stay at 160 and do something there, but as we saw last night, he can't even do that. I've been calling him hyped and overrated since I can remember, and last night proved it. Even though I saw it as a close fight, the fact is that he will only ever be able to move DOWN in weight to be dominate, not up. The guy may very well be the best 154 or 160 pounder, however, Yahoo has him as 3 P4P... the guy shouldn't even be top 5. He should be bottom at the bottom if on there at all, he doesn't have the resume to even have in the top 10 IMO.
Why did Cotto say no
Why did Margarito blatantly duck the rematch
Why did Mosley straight up say no
Why does Pacman think he can beat Margarito yet not Williams
So you know what Pacman is thinking now. Pac will fight anybody as long as the money is there to be made. A Pac vs. Margarito would have made a lot more than a Pac vs P. Will at the time Pacquiao wanted to Margarito before Margs got spanked by Mosely.
do u think it help or hurts his case giving something that u didn't know bout pwilll was the heart of a Champion
lets see if big names go after him now
last fight was entertaining as hell, both fighters were fun to watch yesterday
still, there's something... weird about paul. it's like he goes into autopilot and throws 200 punches per fight that have no chance of landing. i mean, yesterday he threw shots and martinez didn't even had to evade them, since he was like 4 feet away from paul lol
paul needs to think a bit more before throwing his shots. he'll get countered to retirement someday if he keeps this up
dude! My Girlfriend said the same thing this is her exact quote during the fight. "Why does he throw punches like that. he's not even trying to hit him he's just tries to slap at him even though he knows it's not going to hit him, then he ends up getting hit in return."
I figure the Bears will school the Rams and I will be flipping channels.
But you never know with our team and qb.
:)
I know cutler has been bad but man he has NO HELP on that team! It's not all his fault. You put brady on that team and he'd struggle too. They need wr's, a new O-line, and a new defense! It's just a team with one superstar. It's like Kevin Durant on the thunder. they need help bad and they don't have a 1st round pick this year so it's gonna be hard for them! they need to package a trade for a first rounder.
I hope kyle orton has a good game today! I've gotten to like the guy. I still think we need a better qb with a better deep threat than what orton gives us.
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He'll probably go back down to WW now. I never bought the whole "most feared man" shit anyway. Paul is a good fighter and has a lot of will and determination. No hating on the guy from me. I was impressed with Martinez.
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P.will is a good fighter, he's not great yet. everyone he's fought he's had a crazy hight and reach advantage. i want to see how he holds up against a true MW.
I don't know why people don't like Williams.
His marketing team sucks man.
It's a shame. They had to paper the hell out of Williams-Wright.
He's good and he's entertaining. He needs some sort of gimmick or proper promotion.
i've said it before: goosen has done more harm than good for williams. This most feared bullshit is just a ploy by goosen to hide the fact that he sucks as a fuken promoter and has held williams back! Tell me if williams was with Top Rank if he'd still be this poor of a draw.