wtf? bute rated #1 by ring

It's not because you disagree with something that it necessarily is stupid. A case can be made for both Bute and Ward. While Ward has the most significative win, Bute has the best overall resumé. Anyway, you should add some refinement to your thought process. That would prevent you looking like a 5 years old kid. forshizzle ....................

http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/super_middleweight/ what kind of stupid sh*t is that!? he beat some average fighter and now he's #1!? by the way ward was ranked #1 last week It's not because you disagree with something that it necessarily is stupid. A case can be made for both Bute and Ward. While Ward has the most significative win, Bute has the best overall resumé. Anyway, you should add some refinement to your thought process. That would prevent you looking like a 5 years old kid.

leon spinks .................................. Was Leon Spinks ranked #1 or did Ali just gave him a shot?

What you as an amateur does not help at all where you rank as a pro... leon spinks ..................................

Kessler was not ranked #1 by BoxRec, fight news, or IBO. He was never the Ring champion either... He hasn't done much since defeating Andrade in early 2007, except to lose to an age 35 Joe Calzaghe. That's nearly three years! (Sartisan is underrated though). In the meantime, Bute, Froch and Abraham have all been busy defeating contenders. who the f*ck is talkin about boxrec and ibo? i

no but it helps What you as an amateur does not help at all where you rank as a pro...

ring magazine is full of dorks, this is worse than cottos rating.......butes only had 4 defenses against no names....... Actually Joppy, Andrade, and Zuniga are names... May not be great names but are names.

So being a gold medalist is one of the criteria that decides where you rank as a pro? no but it helps

1) undefeated gold medalist 2) he beat kessler who was #1 thats all u need So being a gold medalist is one of the criteria that decides where you rank as a pro?

Do normal people take these arbitrary ratings seriously? doubt it .............

How? Why??? 1) undefeated gold medalist 2) he beat kessler who was #1 thats all u need

Do normal people take these arbitrary ratings seriously?

take away miranda from wards record and he should still be #1 How? Why???

Yes. Berrio, who is very similar to Miranda, was IBF champion at the time he fought Bute. Bute's win over Berrio was more impressive than Ward's win over Miranda, since he knocked Berrio out. Bute has FOUR wins over top ten super middleweights: Berrio (who at the time was Ring top ten), Bika and Andrade x 2. He also has a win over tough-as-they-come top 25 super middleweight Zuniga, who knocked Kelly Pavlik down. Ward has faced only ONE top 10 opponent (Kessler), and only two top 50 opponents, Miranda and Kessler. Kessler is better than anyone Bute has ever faced, but overall, Bute has a better resume than Ward. take away miranda from wards record and he should still be #1

Miranda? Oh yea the guy Pavlik KO'd? And, a guy who got KO'd by AA also before fighting Ward. Berrio? Oh yea Berrio a top 10 fighter who was a an IBF title holder. Berrio who was coming off 2 KO victories over Yusaf Mack who right now is ranked in the top 10 LHW and over Steiglitz who right now is a top 10 SMW. So lets not act like Berrio was a bum coming into the fight with Bute. He was a legit top 10 fighter at the time. And, my bad I didn't try to offend you. Zuniga and Berrio are names hardcore fans should know. Casual fans say who to those names. Is like if I talk about Edison Miranda best wins would be Green and Eastman. I would expect hardcore fans to know who Eastman is but I would expect the casual fan to say who to Eastman. i know who they r sonny i was saying who as in what have they done and who have they beat.

u fuckin wit me right? You don't think that Zuniga was probably just as good as a win than what Miranda was for Ward? Or Berrio being a better win than Miranda since Berrio was ranked in the top 10 and Miranda was not?

No it is relevant if the sole basis of your thinking he should be ranked #1 was because Kessler was ranked #1.....the fashion in which you win is important and a big factor. true but its also important who u fight. if u fight a 98 year old man and ko him in the first round that doesnt elevate ur ranking higher than someone who beats a ranked fighter. hypothetically.

like i said zuniga? oh yeah the dude pavlik ko'd 4 years ago and berrio? the dude who got ko'd 4 or 5 times b4 he fought bute? and how dareeeeeeeeeeee u say im not a hardcore boxing fan!!! i take that personal!!! i know more about the sport then 98 - possibly 100 percent of the people on here !! by the way its all love on this forum im not tryin to offend anyone on here. Miranda? Oh yea the guy Pavlik KO'd? And, a guy who got KO'd by AA also before fighting Ward. Berrio? Oh yea Berrio a top 10 fighter who was a an IBF title holder. Berrio who was coming off 2 KO victories over Yusaf Mack who right now is ranked in the top 10 LHW and over Steiglitz who right now is a top 10 SMW. So lets not act like Berrio was a bum coming into the fight with Bute. He was a legit top 10 fighter at the time. And, my bad I didn't try to offend you. Zuniga and Berrio are names hardcore fans should know. Casual fans say who to those names. Is like if I talk about Edison Miranda best wins would be Green and Eastman. I would expect hardcore fans to know who Eastman is but I would expect the casual fan to say who to Eastman.

I am using a hypothetical.....read more carefully. ok u were saying it hypothetically but that wasnt the case in reality, in reality ward beat the crap out of kessler so ur hypothetical reasoning is irrelevant.

Bute also has win against tough fighter like Alehandro Berrio and Fulgencio Zuniga so again Bute has the better resume at 168. u fuckin wit me right?