One of the reasons I dont speak much on Valero is because I'm just not too familiar with him. I've watched a fight here and there, but haven't really seen that special ability that would make him competitive with the elite. That talent that would give him the edge over the best lightweights.
What have you seen in him that would make you bet on him over Campbell, JMM, Funeka, Diaz, Soto?
Explosiveness, power, hand and foot speed, and his southpaw stance. Resilience, since he got knocked down against Mosquera and came back immediately to dominate the rest of the fight.
Pitalua had been on a good streak and had never been knocked out; the way he destroys the fighters he's faced is impressive, no matter how much of a bum anyone thinks they are; he beat up De La Hoya in sparring and more than held his own against El Terrible before the Pacquiao fight (10-15 fights ago).
has he ever been hurt in a fight? knocked down?
Vicente "Loco" Mosquera of Panama nocked him down on third round on their fight, you can see iy in Youtube....:boxing:
As bad as Valero's punches look he does have the power to one hit quit people at any time so against anyone he has a puncher's chance in my book. If a good trainer would tune him up he would be a pretty good LW.
has he ever been hurt in a fight? knocked down?yea hes been knocked down before, forget against who. valero is pretty solid, i know alot of people trash on him because he makes fundamental mistakes and he looks unpolished but what has to be taken into account is that the guy is still a top professional boxer.
i know this is just sparring but analyze him, even though hes flawed you can still tell that the guy knows his shit and can fight. im not saying hes any thing special but the guy can fight.
Soto is like a mini-Margarito. He jogs leisurely towards his opponents, has long-ass arms, throws great uppercuts, is a tough bastage, and has the coolest 'tache in boxing.
I still think Guzman beat him 116-112, though. It was a good fight, but not too close.eh, not in my opinion. soto has speed, footwork, more head movement, not as much of a squared style, soto would actually make for a good boxer if he was trained like that earlier.
i love how people uunderestimate valero's power.................
campbell aint a lightweight
JMM is the man....but if an old barrera can deck him.....i dont even want to think what valero does to him if he lands flush......id root for jmm if they ever fought though...
funeka really surprised me....but funeka is a slow starter.....hed get KO'ed if Valero lands early.....
Diaz has the skill to beat him....but with his style, hed walk into something big sooner or later......
Soto?Soto'd get crushed, he is slow and hittable........
i dont know what happened to valeros skill though.....i remember those sparring sessions with morales........dude looked class.......i used to hate valero but dude doesnt market himself as a skilled fighter, dude just says no one can take his power, and he is pretty much right........
I don't know why you name Soto as an elite Lightweight. I don't see what is so special about him and I would bet on Valero beating him.
Agreed. Valero is a good name with great KO action. The Valenzuela politics are FN up his prime.
Soto is an elite you dummy.
He'll destroy Valero.
Soto is like a mini-Margarito. He jogs leisurely towards his opponents, has long-ass arms, throws great uppercuts, is a tough bastage, and has the coolest 'tache in boxing.
I still think Guzman beat him 116-112, though. It was a good fight, but not too close.
valero is very bad but has good power. his head movement is non existant and he telegraphs some of his punches.
has he ever been hurt in a fight? knocked down?
velero is nothing special,he swings too wide and has never been tested,if he fights the elite boxers they will take him apart if they can handle his power