Guzman shot?

Guzman isn't shot or faded, he clearly slept on this guy. During the fight Guzman's body looked pretty soft . I think he was out of shape for the fight. Funeka is a good fighter but, I'd pick Marquez, Katsidis and Diaz to beat him.

Thread title had me worried for a second. I thought it meant Guzman was actually shot by someone. Thank goodness he was only talking about being past prime.:biggthump

Ali Funeka was a beast, Guzman was bothered by the blood clearly and it affected the way he fought but i think Ali just had his number. Though he doesn't look too comfortable at the weight and i'm not sure if he can get to 130 anymore. Having said that, i'd still want to see Valero-Guzman.

How many people on here used to watch Guzman from 118-130? Compare that to the fighter you saw in the first round on Saturday night. The difference was great. Such a waste of talent.

I think so too, he does not seem to have the power at lw that he did at lower weights in addition to being much faster than the Ghost......and he showed the heart to tough it out through adversity against Funeka. At 33 though time is running out for him to make something happen he can't be as inactive as he has been whatever the course he chooses to take in his career. I thought the frist three rounds he looked great. the nose being busted and bleeding like that caused him to gas and probably swallow a lot of blood in the back of his throat. If you ever had your nose busted like that and I have you know what I am talking about you try to breathe through your mouth and you get that drip in the back of your throat. Can cause you problems with your stomach and mentally damges you during the fight. Not to mention you are getting less oxygen to your muscles so fatigue sets in much faster. i thought Funeka was a beast and controlled the distance with his jab fantastically. He busted up the rest of his face be it with a head butt or the jab and cross combination. the right hand Guzman walked into almost ended the fight and the next round after that he was stil on shaky legs but he foguht through it and managed to come back and win another round or two. I had the score more like the 116-112 but 114-114 whcih two toerh judges scored it had me scratching my head. All in all it was a good fight in which I never thought he gave up or folded in. At 33 years of age he stil has quickness and movement to get inside and if he wasn't so busted up I think he would have given Funeka moire trouble....Don't forget Funeka is no slouch....lefty

He does look a bit softer at 135 like Campbell did at 140.......I think he should try and see if he can still make 130.,......him vs Robert Guerrero would be an excellent fight. i think he takes guerrero at 130

thats huge i didnt know he got big like that. he should never get bigger than 45 or 50 if he stays in the gym That's one thing that really kills me about him.

Yeah but Guzman blows up :( I hear he walks around 170/180 lbs. It's the descipline also. thats huge i didnt know he got big like that. he should never get bigger than 45 or 50 if he stays in the gym

Yeah but Guzman blows up :( I hear he walks around 170/180 lbs. It's the descipline also. yeah i agree a boxer going to training camp to lose so much weight is asking for a loss in the ring its too much for the body to bear and to expect him to be at full strength is crazy

i dont think he is shot at all. i think he is a featherweight. some guys can bring power up in weight class with them and some cant. you look at him before he moved to 130 and then 135 and his ko rate was high. he hasnt kod anyone at 130/135. his style needs power to be effective. he is not a straight boxer in style he is a boxer puncher who needs power to be world class. i still think he could go and clean out 126 if he could make that weight. he has fast hands and throws great combinations. great footwork also Yeah but Guzman blows up :( I hear he walks around 170/180 lbs. It's the descipline also.

i dont think he is shot at all. i think he is a featherweight. some guys can bring power up in weight class with them and some cant. you look at him before he moved to 130 and then 135 and his ko rate was high. he hasnt kod anyone at 130/135. his style needs power to be effective. he is not a straight boxer in style he is a boxer puncher who needs power to be world class. i still think he could go and clean out 126 if he could make that weight. he has fast hands and throws great combinations. great footwork also

It looks like he tried to fight a more crowd pleasing action packed style. Combine that with the fact that Ali Funeka is a beast and you have the beat down we witnessed last Saturday. Funeka gives everyone in that division fits with his size, endurance and durability. you never really know but i might think its probably him having too lose so much weight between fights like whe he was supposed to fight nate campbell and he lost way too much weight

If Guzman doesn't come back from this, sad to say but I'll see him as the biggest waste of talent.

Nah I don't believe he is shot at all. As soon as Funeka busted his nose he continued to fight but he was clearly less focused. He had to deal with a few problems while trying to tackle a punching machine like Funeka. I also noticed he looked a little more stocky than usual.

I thought his speed looked outstanding early on......if he would have been able to do what he did the first 2 rounds for most of the fight he would have won and made Funeka look slow in the process......without the busted nose and cut caused by a head clash the fight may have gone differently......I wish Guzman the best and hope they rematch sometime. even though Guzman should have lost it was still an entertaining scrap. He speed DID look good early on. But it looked so much slower to me than what I was used to seeing.

guzman has been getting away fighting based solely on talent. it could only get him so far.

Yea, i'll say he is shot, also it seems to be a common thing that when the PR/Dom fighters also alot of the Cubans hit their late 20's early 30's, they as fighters seem to peak in their mid 20's. They dominate then either a lose focus/interest and never look the same in their earlier days especially when they have had success. With Guzman 3 fights in 3 years especially when your having weight issues and your the wrong side of 30 aint a good look. Plus having as many amateur fights as Guzman has had it has taken its toll on his body

nothing wrong with guzmans performance, he just took on an animal in ali funeka. the same guy who iced raheem and was beating nate campbell most of their fight. guzman fought a good fight, against funeka he was just bound to be a victim. look at raheem against funeka.. a short boxer always struggles against a taller guy with boxing skills, styles make fights. just like benitez and leonard both failed to outbox tommy hearns. and even though he wasnt a boxer saddler still gave pep way to much to handle.. styles make fights.

Lets hope Guzman takes this as a postive and stays active.

He started off well in the fight and though got beaten up by Funeka never gave in and fought until the end. I thought he won the 12th too......I think it has more to do with Funeka being the real deal. The busted nose seemed to change everything and Guzman's gameplan went out the window after that. It could have restricted his breathing...... Even after the first round - which he won handily - I posted on the round by round thread that he looked older, much slower and rusty. Compared to how he was 2-3 years ago, Guzman is washed up.