..WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO: What If He Faces And Beats...

Wlad is gd not top 10, but i'd say top 15 HW of all time.

I agree 100%. Who is to say these are pretty good heavyweight and the klitschko's just make them look bad. Arreola is an example as I believe he could have been a very legit HW during the 90's. Same with a few other opponents they faced...it's just they are that much better than everyone else. If it wasn't for their other fights, Cotto, Hatton, Barrera and De La Hoya would all look like bums if the only good fight you seen them in was against Pacquiao. Same with Corrales, Marquez when they went against Floyd. Those opponents the Klitschko's face could be good also, but its the Klitschko's that make them look like bums. Arreola would get beaten just as bad if he fought a prime Holyfield, Lewis, Golota, Tua, or Riddick Bowe. Arreola's skills are extremely flawed and he's out of shape compared to the boxers I mentioned.

he will be an ATG in my book

They're both easily top 20 ATG's. Nobody's gonna beat them as long as they stay healthy. Tua will get ktfo against either bro. Haye gets dusted. Povetkin gets brutalized. Chambers has a chance, but only a small one. I disagree w/ anyone that blames the division. The Klitschko's could beat any Hw's of any era. I also agree with this statement about the Klitschko's could beat any HW of any era. Only a blind man or a hater would say the opposite. Both are very big, strong, excellent boxers and are two of the smartest HW's off all-time. If it wasn't for two freak accidents, Vitali would be undefeated and a lock for top 10 HW of all-time.

The HW is a weak division comment is correct but it's also the Klitschko's who make it a weak division because they are so much better than the rest. There are decent-good boxers at HW but is that the Klitschko's can hang with any era. They have a jab, power, and they actually move around the ring and box their opponents not only stand and fight. I agree 100%. Who is to say these are pretty good heavyweight and the klitschko's just make them look bad. Arreola is an example as I believe he could have been a very legit HW during the 90's. Same with a few other opponents they faced...it's just they are that much better than everyone else. If it wasn't for their other fights, Cotto, Hatton, Barrera and De La Hoya would all look like bums if the only good fight you seen them in was against Pacquiao. Same with Corrales, Marquez when they went against Floyd. Those opponents the Klitschko's face could be good also, but its the Klitschko's that make them look like bums.

i'd say he could be at top25 hws? I think Tua has a very pretty good chance to get inside and throu his right hook. Tua weighs less, than he has ever been. other than that there is no good competition for him. Tua has a punchers chance but 90 percent likely outcome is Tua gets smashed.

He's not beating Chambers. you can change your sig as to a beat with OSIRIS instead of MikeDB as I have changed my user name. BTW Wlad is still sonning Eddie Chambers

I know, I edited right away. I got confused for a sec there :lol1: Happens to the best of us. Lol.

He stopped Sam Peter. Peter quit on his stool, that's a stoppage. If I remember correctly, Vitali stopped Peter, not Wladimir.

I already consider him to be the best heavyweight of this generation. Those wins would help prove it, even more.

Chambers, then Povetkin and finally Haye. His career would look something like this..... Samuel Peter, decision. Ruslan Chagaev, stoppage. Hasem Rachman, stoppage. Tony Thompson, stoppage. Sultan Ibragimov, decision. Lamont Brewster, stoppage. Calvin Brock, stoppage. Francois Botha, stoppage. Jameel McCline, stoppage. Ray Mercer, stoppage. Now, true some of those fighters were passed their primes. True, some of those fighters sucked to begin and some of those fights weren't that exciting. Nonetheless, that's still fairly impressive, for the fights he has available to him. Plus, he'd have the three aforementioned hypothetical wins. His KO ratio is well over 80 percent. He has only 3 losses out of more then 55 fights and he'd still have a few years left to fight. A few questions.. 1. How would you rank him as a Heavyweight and overall? 2. Who then, should he fight next? Should he retire? 3. Who out there, besides his brother, do you think has a chance at beating him? Discuss. He's not beating Chambers.

Tua could be exciting in some ways, but it's less likely then it should be. Tua would have to make some noise. At this point, especially for someone with at the very least, a questionable chin, he's too big a risk with not enough reward. Then again, Klitschko can make some big bucks fighting a tin can in Germany.

This is a pretty soft era but still Wlad will have taken care of the best and has dominated, really that is all someone can ask. I don't know how high I would rate him if he finished off with those guys but he would be in some pretty lofty company.

i'd say he could be at top25 hws? I think Tua has a very pretty good chance to get inside and throu his right hook. Tua weighs less, than he has ever been. other than that there is no good competition for him.