roach needs to moan and keeping going on about floyd ducking low!!

Ricky was penalized for this, IIRC. Not worth the risk, and Manny ain't a cheat. You are right Manny wouldnt resort to that. But im sure Roach can figure something out for Manny. Uppercuts or the body should be available. But im not sure.....Roach is the coach.

If floyd ducks low you would thing Pac would be allowed to punch him in the back of the head as that is the target his is offering the opponent? Ricky was penalized for this, IIRC. Not worth the risk, and Manny ain't a cheat. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

If floyd ducks low you would thing Pac would be allowed to punch him in the back of the head as that is the target his is offering the opponent?

If manny and floyd are to fight then freddie roach should bitch on and keep bringing to light the fact that floyd ducks way to low when avoiding punches and is breaking the rules. That way if floyd keeps doing it the ref will be wiser and it may cost lil floyd a couple of needed points in the fight. what do you guys think?? I'd be more concerned about the elbows to the throat. Fred should have a word with the ref about that. If they ever fight, that is. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

If manny and floyd are to fight then freddie roach should bitch on and keep bringing to light the fact that floyd ducks way to low when avoiding punches and is breaking the rules. That way if floyd keeps doing it the ref will be wiser and it may cost lil floyd a couple of needed points in the fight. what do you guys think?? Nah, the foul that roach tell the ref about is the forearm to the face, the push-off w/ the elbow.

what is the official rule on how low you can duck? the elbow thing is questionable tho...i have seen refs warn him about it

Do not let what you can't do interfere with what you can do.....bitchin' won't help Team Pac....but studying Floyd's habbits will!! :boxing: I know studying his habits will help but it will be another advantage to pac if he could get the ref's attention to floyds blantent ducking low. Maybe when floyd does duck low, pac could him him with elbows and really rough him up to stop him doing it as much.

Do not let what you can't do interfere with what you can do.....bitchin' won't help Team Pac....but studying Floyd's habbits will!! :boxing:

Pernell Whitaker used to get really low and so does Guzman. Though Mayweather does this alot differently.

Add to this the elbowing thing he does You don't see that as much against south paws.

He won't get penalized for this, he never does in any of his fights.

Add to this the elbowing thing he does

If manny and floyd are to fight then freddie roach should bitch on and keep bringing to light the fact that floyd ducks way to low when avoiding punches and is breaking the rules. That way if floyd keeps doing it the ref will be wiser and it may cost lil floyd a couple of needed points in the fight. what do you guys think?? I think he skirts around the rule by not only ducking low, but as soon as he ducks, he initiates contact with his shoulder while he low and forces a wrap up