Once Manny started hurting him, Miguel wanted to hurt Manny back and that's when he started losing the fight. Cotto won the first round by boxing Manny. Manny checked his chin in the second and Miguel wanted some payback; it cost him, badly. Manny damaged him in the 2nd, 3rd & 4th. It was over after that. Perhaps if he had a better trainer, he would have been instructed to check his pride and keep Manny at the end of his jab.
He throw his game plan away and that rookie Santiago didn't help at all. Cotto may not have won the fight in the end but he sure would have looked a lot better if he boxed. Instead he thought he could brawl with a brawler. Manny size is very deceptive and he will pop you if you decide to trade.
I think Miguel and his crew really believed Manny would be too small to hang with Miguel. I think they "knew" in their minds that Manny couldn't hurt him and he (Miguel) could hurt Manny. They were close-minded in this aspect. That was their biggest mistake. It's happened three times in a row now (Oscar, Ricky & Miguel). One thing is certain, whoever fights Manny next, will not make the same mistake.
He throw his game plan away and that rookie Santiago didn't help at all. Cotto may not have won the fight in the end but he sure would have looked a lot better if he boxed. Instead he thought he could brawl with a brawler. Manny size is very deceptive and he will pop you if you decide to trade.
I have to agree with you....
Thats exactly what happened.
Agreed, Cotto lost his cool as soon as Pacquiao got the better of him which left him wide open for the left hook! Cotto should have stayed behind the jab and slowed the pace of the fight down, instead of that he fought high tempo with a great puncher and payed the ultimate price. I know Cotto could have done so much better then he did do in there, trading with pacquiao is suicide.
Once Manny started hurting him, Miguel wanted to hurt Manny back and that's when he started losing the fight. Cotto won the first round by boxing Manny. Manny checked his chin in the second and Miguel wanted some payback; it cost him, badly. Manny damaged him in the 2nd, 3rd & 4th. It was over after that. Perhaps if he had a better trainer, he would have been instructed to check his pride and keep Manny at the end of his jab.
I have to agree with you....
Thats exactly what happened.
Nah. What will happen is the bell will ring and Manny won't be suckered into following Floyd around the ring like all the other guys who fought him. He will step back to the ropes, invite Floyd in and rope-a-dope him for 11 rounds until he's tired and breaks his brittle hands, then Manny throws a single punch and knocks Floyd cold for two weeks.
See? Floyd's plan is f*cked already. He expects everyone to follow him around so he can potshot and run. That's because Floyd is so one-dimensional. By not playing his games, you can see he's already lost his main advantage.
The audience will walk out, because basically there won't be a fight, but that's OK, Manny will "get the win under any circumstances", no matter how boring it is.
Freddie Roach? Pfff. Manny needs Freddie S a m u r a i. I have the master plan to beat Floyd. And it couldn't be simpler. If you don't follow him, there's basically nothing left in his one-dimensional arsenal.
You've been backing the wrong horse all along. Floyd sucks. Everyone has been trying to work out how to beat him, but the answer is... do nothing.
lol...funny post. I didn't take it seriously...was it suppose to be?
Yeah i think i gave that round to Cotto but i dont remember that shot you say Pac landed...Towards the end of the 5th though he caught Manny on the chin wit a left hook and i think it staggard him..Gonna have to check the video later to make sure..
Look at the last 10 seconds of the round, the camera angle wasn't good but you could see Pacquiao land a left uppercut/hook to the body that thudded home, made Cotto back up and drop his hands, Pacquiao then landed 2 shots on Cotto. Cotto wasn't the same after that.
As Bernard Hopkins would say.. You could see the shock on his face, when he realized that he's been lied to
lol
Miguel sure as hell had that look on his face after the fourth round.
Floyd cant be suckered into retarded street fights...............and Floyd will jab and box Manny.
If Cotto outboxed him when he moved and Jab...then good luck trying to beat Floyd.
burner you're a dumbass, just come out and tell everybody you're a 14 year old little kid cuz most Floyd's fans are little kids.
i see pac as a counter-puncher, except instead of countering with 1 punch he swarms. thats the whole point of his old side to side head movement, to counter straight punches
Pac catches them during the exchanges. His greater speed and power, together with them crazy angles allow him to get the better of the exchanges.
And again, no. Cotto came out the fifth round looking to show Pacquiao he wasn't hurt and won the 5th round on a few people's cards. It was the body shot at the end of the 5th IMO, that took it out of him. If you've ever been hit by body shots like that, you know that it takes a lot out of you and sometimes you don't recover, which seems to be what happened to Cotto.
Yeah i think i gave that round to Cotto but i dont remember that shot you say Pac landed...Towards the end of the 5th though he caught Manny on the chin wit a left hook and i think it staggard him..Gonna have to check the video later to make sure..
Thats what Im saying....when Cotto actually THREW the right hand it landed....
Until he got hit.....then Cotto did something hes never done he quit on himself....not because he was hurt like the margarito fight...he quit on his abilities.
Cotto is a guy who was known to get knocked down..get up and knock people out which is why PR was carazy about him..he tok one punch from Pac and turned into a cornerback.
Floyd will CONSISTENTLY throw the right hand until his arm falls off.
Huh? Cotto couldn't throw the right hand because Pacquiao neutralized it, 5 landed right hands in a fight is incredibly low.
And no, Cotto has done it before, maybe not 'quit on himself' but he has retreated like that befre. It's a physical and mental thing, Cotto seems to hit a wall after 5 or 6 rounds of his fights and he doesn't get second wins. Against N'dou, Mosley, Margarito, Clottey and now Pacquiao, the same thing has happened, he wanted to run out the clock. Mosley, N'dou and Clottey couldn't capitalize, Pacquiao and Margarito could (suspect wraps or not), it's one of the reasons why I picked Pacquiao by late knockout.
And again, no. Cotto came out the fifth round looking to show Pacquiao he wasn't hurt and won the 5th round on a few people's cards. It was the body shot at the end of the 5th IMO, that took it out of him. If you've ever been hit by body shots like that, you know that it takes a lot out of you and sometimes you don't recover, which seems to be what happened to Cotto.
The body shot in addition to Cotto's stamina problems is what caused Cotto to retreat.
Who knows? If Mayweather gets countered by something big from Pacquiao he might stop throwing it himself, we won't know until it actually happens.
Pacquiao is a deceptively good counterpuncher
I was about to say the same thing. I thought Burner might be able to work it out though, seeing as he's suppoped to be a boxing fan. Turns out he's just a boxer fan.
One fukking time?????
Please.........Manny is not a counter puncher.
You mad? Having a period?
And you accuse me of losing my mind? You're blind, Burner. Pacquiao is far better than you realize. Oh, don't forget he also knocked Ricky down with a counter right hook.
"Same move every time!"
I missed the rest of your insults out because I can't be bothered to reply to them.
Until he got hit.....then Cotto did something hes never done he quit on himself....not because he was hurt like the margarito fight...he quit on his abilities.
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You're not only blind, you're dumb. Cotto was terrified of Manny. He'd never met anyone who could throw weird trajectory power punches while looking off-balance. Why else would he be cowering in the corner with a face like a football and running around pot-shotting for 6 rounds? He was crapping himself.
Take a look at the guy's face after the fight. It swelled up like a balloon. How the hell can anyone think he wasn't hurt? If you're not hurt, you walk through the shots. An example: Hatton-Malignaggi. Paulie couldn't hurt Hatton, hence Hatton beat him up despite Paulie being the better technical boxer. Hatton is the better fighter.
Maybe Oscar brainwashed you when he lied and said Manny doesn't hit hard. Maybe he was also partly responsible for Hatton's KO. Oscar's lies lulled him into a false sense of security.
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Pacman isnt the type of fighter to counter.....
Pacman wanst his opponet to come str8 at him......so he can angle and get into wars which is why he was encouraging Miguel to attack him...Cottos said" hey hes a litle guy lets try it" and got knocked the hell out.
Floyds not stupid like Cotto..and Floyd doesnt give a shit about going to war......
He will circle Pac ...jab upstairs but mostly down stairs...to get Pacs attention.
Pacman has never seen a left or right hand as fast and accuarte as Mayweathers...He couldnt even dodge Cottos and Marquez's right hand.
Pacquiao is a deceptively good counterpuncher now, he neutralized Cotto's right hand. I'd be surprised if Cotto landed more than 5 meaningful straight right hands in the fight.
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Pacman isnt the type of fighter to counter.....
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Once Manny started hurting him, Miguel wanted to hurt Manny back and that's when he started losing the fight. Cotto won the first round by boxing Manny. Manny checked his chin in the second and Miguel wanted some payback; it cost him, badly. Manny damaged him in the 2nd, 3rd & 4th. It was over after that. Perhaps if he had a better trainer, he would have been instructed to check his pride and keep Manny at the end of his jab.
Cotto also won the first round because Manny was letting him hit him to get used to the punches.
the second round he upped it a bit and Cotto got hammered.
JMM never fought Cory Spinks.
That shit is photoshopped.
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Lies! It's Marquez, and he was the draw, look at the audience, it's blatantly a Mexican.
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