Why do people think manny pacquiao takes steroids? (sorry another steroid thread)

Didn't both Cotto and Paquiao get tested before and after the fight?

Hes 30 years old still in his prime. He has not gotten faster he is about the same speed, unless you can get actual proof that he is faster then its just a useless argument. Yes he is bigger and stronger that is what happens when you properly move up in weight. Steroids would not help with punch resistance so i dont know what your point is. Seriously, the people throwing around the allegations make it seem like he's 40 years old :lol1: Also having fought bigger slower guys in his last fights has only magnified his speed and makes it appear that he's gotten faster.

but then again, i look at his early fights (before he moved up to Super Bantamweight) he KNOCKED OUT 17 opponents out of the 26 he faced....i say to myself '' this guy has punching power'' and he STILL carried that power even when he moved to 122 it was getting even deadlier, especially against Ledwaba. Underboss, isn't curious as to why the guy suddenly jumped to 122 after he got TKO'd trying to go back to 112? He couldn't make the weight anymore. By the way, you think he was roiding as a FLYWEIGHT? LOLOLOL

Only a hater thinks that pacquiao is on steroids because they can't believe what they are seeing right now that can only be done by a very special fighter that could become a GOAT in the history of boxing. I think people that isn't a hater recognize and appreciate what pacquiao has done in the ring and they are lucky and proud to witness the greatness of pacquiao.

Hank Armstrong, the guy these writers keep comparing Pacquiao to, NEVER fought as a middleweight. He was KO'd in his first fight and even lost three of his first four. Early in his career he moved up in weight and mostly fought as a small Lightweight. He was able to compete at welterweight and featherweight too, though. But even late in his career the highest he'd ever fight was about 144 or 145. Not saying that proves anything you were responding to, but Hank Armstrong never fought as a middleweight...not even close. Throughout his entire career I'd be willing to bet at least 70 or 80% of his fights were between about 130 and 142 lbs. And keep in mind that back then they had same day weigh ins. He fought Ceferino Garcia for the Middleweight championship. It's on youtube.

but then again, i look at his early fights (before he moved up to Super Bantamweight) he KNOCKED OUT 17 opponents out of the 26 he faced....i say to myself '' this guy has punching power'' and he STILL carried that power even when he moved to 122 it was getting even deadlier, especially against Ledwaba.

I believe its the floyd fans doing what they thought was happening to their guy the whole time. its just pure hate. everybody is hating on manny now because of his success and ATG status so steriods is the easy answer to them. Its just hate, nothing else. Let them hate

But how many people actually believe this? Pacquiao is a popular fighter...very popular. His popularity is growing exponentially right now. Mayweather Sr.'s accusations...even in the event that they ultimately prove true...haven't won him any new friends or fans. This isn't hurting Pacquiao. Some type of real proof would need to surface before Pacquiao's rep could be tarnished...right now it's just hot air. I know the people im talking about who accuse pac of steroids are strictly on this website.

Because he wins. To most people in here if you win you are either on steroids or the opponent was shot, weight drained, damaged goods, etc...... yeah man, i don't know why some people here couldn't accept it that someone is better than the other boxer instead they make those rediculous excuses as to why the other boxer loss.

Yeah but Jose Canseco was about the most knowledgeable player when it came to steroids in baseball. It just pisses me off that floyd mayweather sr. of all people just said he was on steroids and this is how the shit storm began But how many people actually believe this? Pacquiao is a popular fighter...very popular. His popularity is growing exponentially right now. Mayweather Sr.'s accusations...even in the event that they ultimately prove true...haven't won him any new friends or fans. This isn't hurting Pacquiao. Some type of real proof would need to surface before Pacquiao's rep could be tarnished...right now it's just hot air.

LOl. Henry Armstrong at nearly the age of 20 at 120 got TKO. Yet the guy when up all the way to Middleweight and along with way TKO/KO'd guys. Please explain. Hank Armstrong, the guy these writers keep comparing Pacquiao to, NEVER fought as a middleweight. He was KO'd in his first fight and even lost three of his first four. Early in his career he moved up in weight and mostly fought as a small Lightweight. He was able to compete at welterweight and featherweight too, though. But even late in his career the highest he'd ever fight was about 144 or 145. Not saying that proves anything you were responding to, but Hank Armstrong never fought as a middleweight...not even close. Throughout his entire career I'd be willing to bet at least 70 or 80% of his fights were between about 130 and 142 lbs. And keep in mind that back then they had same day weigh ins.

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Well there isn't a semi-credible story yet...so it's hard to give these accussations any credence. That said, the first time A-Rod was accussed of steroid abuse was just Jose Canseco saying something along the lines of "I have no proof, but look at the guy." Again, though, in the absense of a semi-credible story you have to give Pacquiao the benefit of the doubt. At this point, it's entirely possible that Pacquiao has just fought a string of respected, but shot fighters and that's why his power has been so devastating even at higher weights. Yeah but Jose Canseco was about the most knowledgeable player when it came to steroids in baseball. It just pisses me off that floyd mayweather sr. of all people just said he was on steroids and this is how the shit storm began

Well there isn't a semi-credible story yet...so it's hard to give these accussations any credence. That said, the first time A-Rod was accussed of steroid abuse was just Jose Canseco saying something along the lines of "I have no proof, but look at the guy." Again, though, in the absense of a semi-credible story you have to give Pacquiao the benefit of the doubt. At this point, it's entirely possible that Pacquiao has just fought a string of respected, but shot fighters and that's why his power has been so devastating even at higher weights. I laughed for a moment there. That might explain some of the results.

Well there isn't a semi-credible story yet...so it's hard to give these accussations any credence. That said, the first time A-Rod was accussed of steroid abuse was just Jose Canseco saying something along the lines of "I have no proof, but look at the guy." Again, though, in the absense of a semi-credible story you have to give Pacquiao the benefit of the doubt. At this point, it's entirely possible that Pacquiao has just fought a string of respected, but shot fighters and that's why his power has been so devastating even at higher weights.

As hes aged..hes gotten faster...bigger...stronger and has had better punch resistance all the while moving up and fighting BIGER fighters. Oh and his head and fists jsut dont seem to stop growing. LOl. Henry Armstrong nearly the age of 20 weighed 120 got TKO. Yet the guy when up all the way to Middleweight and along with way TKO/KO'd bigger guys. Please explain.

As hes aged..hes gotten faster...bigger...stronger and has had better punch resistance all the while moving up and fighting BIGER fighters. Oh and his head and fists jsut dont seem to stop growing. Hes 30 years old still in his prime. He has not gotten faster he is about the same speed, unless you can get actual proof that he is faster then its just a useless argument. Yes he is bigger and stronger that is what happens when you properly move up in weight. Steroids would not help with punch resistance so i dont know what your point is.

these people are just ignorant acolytes, notice only when articles written on empty presumptions arise do these band wagoner start sprouting senseless posts, hence, they themselves were not intelligent enough to fabricate such accusations, rather they just follow the leader, allowing this notion to be placed into their empty heads. ignorance coupled with blind obedience equals a fool.

That is no different then talking bad about Fidel Castro in Cuba. But that is completely irrelevant

If you think he takes steroids, state that you think this and why you think this in a post. All these accusations and shit and no one here even knows what steroids do. brian kenny has a theory on that. on his radio show he said something along the lines when people see something incredible or great they don't want to believe it and they naturally tries to come up with excuses and reasons for it.