NOT PACMAN
he already made cotto come down to 145 which almost killed the fight. now he wants floyd to come to 145 and we all know that aint gon happen. plus he want jmm to come to 145 when he looked shitty at 144. this is worse than floyd making fighters come up b/c we all know it is harder to lose than gain.
when floyd say no to that shit im on record saying it aint his fault and its not a duck.
when shane say no to that shit im on record saying it aint his fault and its not a duck.
when jmm say no to that shit im on record saying it aint his fault and its not a duck.
so ima jump the FUKK roach wagon off b/c he bout to **** up plenty fights with this shit.
Roach may be lying, but I can honestly believe in Floyd asking for 154 and 10oz gloves. 154 means you have to have 10oz instantly anyway in Nevada right?
Any man will ask for things in his favour.
I have to keep reminding myself that I like Pacquiao because of his fans and worst of all Freddie Roach.
That's where I am at, honestly. Samurai commented that roach is not a bad person. He's not. I would even venture to tell people he's a good person, but I do NOT like him as a boxing persona.
I would also like to comment on this b/c if i am not mistaken cotto asked for 145??? So if anyone is to blame its his own decision. or is there anyway you flomos going to twist this argument?
I just say F Freddie Roach on a general level.
NOT PACMAN
he already made cotto come down to 145 which almost killed the fight. now he wants floyd to come to 145 and we all know that aint gon happen. plus he want jmm to come to 145 when he looked shitty at 144. this is worse than floyd making fighters come up b/c we all know it is harder to lose than gain.
when floyd say no to that shit im on record saying it aint his fault and its not a duck.
when shane say no to that shit im on record saying it aint his fault and its not a duck.
when jmm say no to that shit im on record saying it aint his fault and its not a duck.
so ima jump the FUKK roach wagon off b/c he bout to **** up plenty fights with this shit.
:bottle::bottle::bottle::bottle:
Don't get butthurt over what Roach does and says. He's looking out for Manny. It's called posturing. You don't ask you don't get. You have to start negotiations somewhere. Outside the ropes it's a business. If you're the sensitive type you won't make it and apparently Roach is not the sensitive type. He's just doing his thing. I would want him in my corner for sure.
nobod is saying roach is a joke coach. He needs to stop with the catchweight. If these fights don't get made its his fault. Period. It won't be a duck if a fighter don't agree to this shit.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326011
Nothing wrong with catchweights if both sides agree to the terms. Nobody is being "forced" to come down in weight. Roach doesn't have any fighters trapped in steel cages, naked and being beaten daily with a stick, being fed only lettuce for 3 months. No. The fighters agree to "meet in the middle". It's their choice. Cotto, for example, was given clearance by his doctors who said he would have no problems at all, but to try and stay above 144.
Am I in agreement of every catchweight fight? Not necessarily, you have to look at each individual case, but if two fighters agree to it, you can't really say shit. Leave them to it. Nothing you say will make a difference, catchweight fights will still happen for as long as boxing is around.
What's worse -- two fighters agreeing to meet in the middle, or two who agree but one comes in over the weight on purpose when he already holds all the advantages?
Freddie Roach is not a bad person.
In this particular case, asking for a catchweight is about as bitch made as it gets.
Manny Pacquiao is a welterweight champion and needs to defend that belt at 147 pounds, not some phoney 145 pound Gina Carano weight divsion.
I'd like to hear what Manny has to say on the subject. I doubt he cares.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326011
Nothing wrong with catchweights if both sides agree to the terms. Nobody is being "forced" to come down in weight. Roach doesn't have any fighters trapped in steel cages, naked and being beaten daily with a stick, being fed only lettuce for 3 months. No. The fighters agree to "meet in the middle". It's their choice. Cotto, for example, was given clearance by his doctors who said he would have no problems at all, but to try and stay above 144.
Am I in agreement of every catchweight fight? Not necessarily, you have to look at each individual case, but if two fighters agree to it, you can't really say shit. Leave them to it. Nothing you say will make a difference, catchweight fights will still happen for as long as boxing is around.
What's worse -- two fighters agreeing to meet in the middle, or two who agree but one comes in over the weight on purpose when he already holds all the advantages?
Freddie Roach is not a bad person.
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Roach = Trainer of the Year .. 3 years in a row..
He will probley earn another 3- or 10 before he quits..
Can we say best trainer of this ERA.. I think so.
We're not talking about his abilities as a trainer. We're talking about the fact that he's a bitch.
Signing in. Pac fans will defend Roach, but they shouldn't. He makes Manny look bad, when really Manny has nothing to do with it.
Manny Pacquiao = ATG
Freddie Roach = All time bitch made punk
Roach = Trainer of the Year .. 3 years in a row..
He will probley earn another 3- or 10 before he quits..
Can we say best trainer of this ERA.. I think so.
NOT PACMAN
he already made cotto come down to 145 which almost killed the fight. now he wants floyd to come to 145 and we all know that aint gon happen. plus he want jmm to come to 145 when he looked shitty at 144. this is worse than floyd making fighters come up b/c we all know it is harder to lose than gain.
when floyd say no to that shit im on record saying it aint his fault and its not a duck.
when shane say no to that shit im on record saying it aint his fault and its not a duck.
when jmm say no to that shit im on record saying it aint his fault and its not a duck.
so ima jump the FUKK roach wagon off b/c he bout to **** up plenty fights with this shit.
When did Roach say he wants the Mayweather fight at 145?