Running = being brave? He didnt even try to get the KO after he got dropped the second time, he went into survival mode and didnt try to win anymore..He ran vs Mosley and Clottey.
Gatti was a real warrior, he NEVER conceded like Cotto and always tried to win even if he was outmatched or outclassed. Gatti went out swinging ALWAYS trying to win.. He never took knees and quit.. Cotto was satisfied with just not getting KO'd that isnt a warrior... Calling Cotto a warrior is disrespectful to real warriors like Gatti
So is Floyd a warrior ?
yeah i agree i was sittin next to my friend watching the fight and i was shocked that miguel cotto wasnt trying to at least give it one last shot and go down swinging like a champ and for the haters out there that blame it on him not having a great trainer it dont matter cuz the fightter is the one in the ring and i was upset that miguel cotto went into survival mode and wasn't trying to win even though he showed alot of heart it still dont make it right to run around the ring like he with out trying to get his shots in..i think he needs to think about wheter or not he really wants to fight again..at least the great arturo gatti came to fight no matter who the opponent was
Calling Cotto a warrior is disrespect to real warriors
I agree with this statement 100%!!!
Even DLH didn't run from Pac.
I'm sorry but in comparison to the warriors that have come before Cotto, I just don't feel he measures up to warrior status.
I feel he is a start boxer, but doesn't have the greatest resolve in the game.
DE la Hoya!!! LOL the same guy who avoided Margarito to fight a smaller man. The Guy who didn't fight back!!! c'mon I like De la hoya but he did not fight as you say "warrior" against Pacquiao.
"Discretion is the better part of valor". Cotto is smart when he gets hurt he tries to back off regather himself get together and start again when he has something to offer. Not just jump in after getting hurt and leave himself open to more damage. With an opponant as busy as Many he needed to get on his bike to get a respite. The problem was Manny was chaasing him down and never gave him a chance to regather.In the past his backing off when hurt had paid off in this case running was his best chance of backing off. It was a desparate attempt to gain space to get back into the fight.
i disagree totally
he was running to avoid the serious beating he was taking he tried backing Pacman up didn't work he tried to out box him it didn't work
after a while he gave up and just wanted to finish the fight on his feet
like i said in another thread you would never catch Felix Trinidad running even if he is getting beat comprehensively
Cotto kept taking a knee in the Margarito fight aswell to avoid punishment we should've seen this coming
"Discretion is the better part of valor". Cotto is smart when he gets hurt he tries to back off regather himself get together and start again when he has something to offer. Not just jump in after getting hurt and leave himself open to more damage. With an opponant as busy as Many he needed to get on his bike to get a respite. The problem was Manny was chaasing him down and never gave him a chance to regather.In the past his backing off when hurt had paid off in this case running was his best chance of backing off. It was a desparate attempt to gain space to get back into the fight.
I think Cotto deserves the benefit of the doubt after the Margarito raps scandal .Look what happened to Billy Collins Jr for example .Plus look what Pac's power done to Hatton .Knocked him clean out .Cotto was going to stay in there to the final bell if he could.
What he did was sensible. I actually felt that if he tried outboxing Pacquiao in the first set of rounds he'd have done better for himself he got himself too rattled on the inside.
If he took the warrior approach as you say, he would have been murdered, he tried blasting him in the first four rounds and it left him open to well placed spiteful punches. Look at the second knock down.
Cotto is a warrior. Just because he started avoiding Manny after the 8th round doesn't make him any less of a warrior. If anything that was smart. He knew Manny would knock him out if he tries to exchange again and he might even get hurt badly. IMO, they should've stopped the fight after the 9th round and i'm glad the ref stopped it immedietly on the 12th when Manny caught up with Cotto, who knows how badly it could've ended. OTOH, Mayweather is not a warrior, he starts running from the begining of the fight up till the end, defensive strategy my ass, he's just a fvking pussy, that's all there is to it.
Cotto IS a warrior....a proud warrior......besides that he's a better than average human being!!.....I guess narrow souls fail to see the TRUE beauty of courage!!.....Cotto came out for the last round......remember that before you say he lost his warrior stripes!!....remember that!!:boxing:
Calling Cotto a warrior is disrespect to real warriors
I agree with this statement 100%!!!
Even DLH didn't run from Pac.
I'm sorry but in comparison to the warriors that have come before Cotto, I just don't feel he measures up to warrior status.
I feel he is a start boxer, but doesn't have the greatest resolve in the game.
He brawled in the middle of the ring for 4 rounds so he is a warrior??
Right.... What about the other 8 when he ran?? So he was a warrior for 4 rounds and a coward for 8 rounds... Do the math....
Actually he brawled with him until the ending of round 7. Which cost him two knockdowns almost three he was probably better boxing from the start or doing what he did in round one which was jab and counter.
He brawled in the middle of the ring for 4 rounds so he is a warrior??
Right.... What about the other 8 when he ran?? So he was a warrior for 4 rounds and a coward for 8 rounds... Do the math....
Again, he was hurt and his family was watching....He knows that Pacquiao is too much for him...Why the hell will he risk getting a career ending injury like Z Gorres?(see my signature below).An ordinary fighter would have quit after round 6....
The fact that Cotto brawled w/ a beast like Pacquiao makes him a warrior...He got hurt, his family was watching.....He's a warrior for fighting the best welterweights out there...
He brawled in the middle of the ring for 4 rounds so he is a warrior??
Right.... What about the other 8 when he ran?? So he was a warrior for 4 rounds and a coward for 8 rounds... Do the math....
The fact that Cotto brawled w/ a beast like Pacquiao makes him a warrior...He got hurt, his family was watching.....He's a warrior for fighting the best welterweights out there...
I'm torn.
Pac called him out in the middle of the ring, told him to stop running on a couple of occasions and he still did. Contrast that to Morales who didn't need to be called out. The man went out guns blazin, firing back on wobbly legs. This was suppose to be war. Kinda reminded me of Barerra's 2nd fight versus Pacquiao. Just wanted to see the final bell.
On the other hand, you have to do whatever it takes to win and if you're bets chance is to catch him with a big shot, then you take it.
Still, had he gone out of his shield, it would have elevated this fight to heights ala Hagler-Hearns. That's finding victory in a loss.
Running = being brave? He didnt even try to get the KO after he got dropped the second time, he went into survival mode and didnt try to win anymore..He ran vs Mosley and Clottey.
Gatti was a real warrior, he NEVER conceded like Cotto and always tried to win even if he was outmatched or outclassed. Gatti went out swinging ALWAYS trying to win.. He never took knees and quit.. Cotto was satisfied with just not getting KO'd that isnt a warrior... Calling Cotto a warrior is disrespectful to real warriors like Gatti
The Irony. :nonono:
So basically Cotto is ignorant as well right?? along with most Cotto fans who said the same thing...Dumbass and Cotto himself said he wouldnt lose to a former 106lber...I bet you feel real stupid now dont you?? You just got fuccn owned LOL.. Christ owning you Cottards is a little too easy.. LOL @ people bringing up Floyd.. I mean wtf?? Some of you people are pathetic
Please, give me a source where he said 106--then I'll give you credit. Please douchebag. Thanks.
LOL @ Cottards trying to deflect Cotto being a running coward into a Floyd thread... Sorry guys, lets stick to the subject and not the 40-0 guy who will be favored over Pacman.. Lets talk about the guy who was running from a another guy that was 10lbs lighter than he... :****you:
I think the people who are calling him a warrior break down into the following 2 groups.
1.) Boricuas who just want something to say to ease the blow over the fact that Cotto was so clearly outmatched.
and
2.) Pinoys who don't really want to disrespect Miguel or his fans, over the fact that Cotto was treated like a bitch.
Sorry, but that was no warrior in there last night. That was a guy desperate to go 12 rounds.
I do know that running against a smaller man 2-3 weight classes and overmatched isnt boxing.
It is u who dont know ur boxing gayweather stan.
Of course u prefer cowards and pussies so its not a wonder.
I'm not a Mayweather fan, infact i don't really like the guy. But i recognise that he's very talented at what he does and that's box. Mayweather creates offence from his defence if you can't see that you're a tool.
Most of your post is pretty garbage. Pacquiao is not 106 anymore--he weighed around 150 during the fight. While Pacquiao may have been the smaller man--there are other people who weighed 106 at age 16 like Mayweather so stop saying 106. You're ignorant.
Errr.Cotto was trying to land something--he was being smart about it.. he couldn't see where the punches were coming from so he wanted to box. That's being smart and wanting to keep going as a fighter-- as a warrior.
By the way, I'm a Pacquiao fan...you pre-pubescent child.
So basically Cotto is ignorant as well right?? along with most Cotto fans who said the same thing...Dumbass and Cotto himself said he wouldnt lose to a former 106lber...I bet you feel real stupid now dont you?? You just got fuccn owned LOL.. Christ owning you Cottards is a little too easy.. LOL @ people bringing up Floyd.. I mean wtf?? Some of you people are pathetic