All you people on here that think Haye can beat either Klitschko, did you even watch his fight with Valuev? He looked like crap and threw at most 10 punches per round. He didn't do any better than any of Valuev's other opponents that lost close fights to Valuev! I had Valuev winning 8 rounds to 4, and believe me its painful to say that! 1,4-9 and 11 for Valuev and 2, 3, 10 and 12 for Haye. A couple could have went either way but Haye didn't enough to win them imo. Haye gave no indication that he could beat either Brother in this fight...
Different fighters, different tactics.
Valuev was so much bigger than Haye, he had to fight the way he did to win. Noone has come close to stopping Valuev, so going all out for the KO, tiring himself out early, and getting hit in the process, losing points in Germany, would have been stupid. He fought the best fight for this particular opponent and it worked perfectly.
Wlad and Vitali are no where near as big as Valuev is. Haye will be much more aggressive against Wlad because he knows one punch is all it will take.
Haye has a combination of speed, power and skills both Klits haven't faced in such a HORRIBLE heavyweight division.
All you people on here that think Haye can beat either Klitschko, did you even watch his fight with Valuev? He looked like crap and threw at most 10 punches per round. He didn't do any better than any of Valuev's other opponents that lost close fights to Valuev! I had Valuev winning 8 rounds to 4, and believe me its painful to say that! 1,4-9 and 11 for Valuev and 2, 3, 10 and 12 for Haye. A couple could have went either way but Haye didn't enough to win them imo. Haye gave no indication that he could beat either Brother in this fight...
Wlad vs Haye might be a very boring fight, both too fearful of their opponents power to take control.
I can see what you mean, it could turn out to be a very technical fight but on the other hand with the amount of skill and power involved it could be a classic.
remember people, wladimir made haye sign a contract that if haye beated him he should fight his brother and after that fight he should fight one of the klits again. Doesn't sound that the klits are as confident as their fans
They're nowhere near as confident as their fans. When fighters instate rematch clauses, they usually lose: Lewis-Rahman 1, Hamed-Barrera and Tarver-Dawson 1. Yes, the Klits would be Haye's toughest opponents to date, but Haye is also better than anyone they've beaten.
Personally, last night i think Haye showed that he has enough to at least give both brothers a hard night, for as long as the fights last.
While Haye's chin is certainly questionable, he did show he can execute an intelligent gameplan and that he can fight proudctively and efficiently for 12 rounds.
Wobbling Valuev quite badly with his weaker arm, punching up at that angle, and landing not entirely cleanly gives me faith that Haye could take Wlad out quite tidily should he land clean, and that he could at least get VK to respect him.
I do honestly think Haye COULD win against both brothers, but he'd have to train and box perfectly, and have luck on his side.
It's arguable that he even beat Valuev last night. A guy several levels below either Klitty. He did show that he might be able to run from them for 12 rounds though.
remember people, wladimir made haye sign a contract that if haye beated him he should fight his brother and after that fight he should fight one of the klits again. Doesn't sound that the klits are as confident as their fans
why would haye care, he makes more money fighting them than anyone else so it wouldnt be that bad a deal.
that said either brother knocks him out whenever they decide to.
No Chance.
Wlad didn't even bother watching the Haye-Valuev fight, and says he doesn't take either seriously.
People who say that Haye would beat the so-called "sisters" seriously underestimate the power of the Klitschkos.
Vitali would destroy Haye...he'd smash him to pieces...and Wlad would stop him as well.
The Klitschkos could stop Haye, Vitali would be more likely I think. But Wlad will probably take it more seriously than he publicly reveals. Haye does have very good power and accuracy, he'd be a threat in either fight I think.
No Chance.
Wlad didn't even bother watching the Haye-Valuev fight, and says he doesn't take either seriously.
People who say that Haye would beat the so-called "sisters" seriously underestimate the power of the Klitschkos.
Vitali would destroy Haye...he'd smash him to pieces...and Wlad would stop him as well.
Vitali would destroy him. What can be discussed is Wlad vs. Haye. I think it could be interesting. Both can hit, neither can take a punch. I think Wlad would trouble Haye with his jab but i could see it go both ways. It would certainley not go the distance.
Hopefully at least one Klitschko fight gets made, but true I'd give Haye a better chance over Wlad than Vitali too.
He has a PROBABLY a better chance of beating younger brother then the other because in my opinion Vitali is a good fighter who only lost to injuries and cuts and most of his wins are by KOs
Has he got a chance to beat any one of the Klitschko's or do you think he could beat both?
I'd love to see Haye V Wlad. I don't think anyone beats Vitali until he goes past 40 (injury retirements aside). I think Vitali is underrated, he's incredibly hard to beat, alot harder than it is to beat Wlad. Wlad has gotten better and is bridging the gap between them though.