Hustle on then, I'm not knocking his game. Idc, it's just the posters making it seem like RA's some kind of figure in boxing and is actually doing this because he feels he's right. This is not the case, the man wants fame off of 50 Cent by getting at his pal, it's so obvious.
LOL. I love how you just pulled that one out of your ass. Pathetic really.
"fight the best and you'll get the respect you seek" is basically the entire basis of the discussion.
I don't see a contradiction, just the sentiments echoed by the boxing community at large.
He may have gotten some small details wrong while in the heat of the moment, but don't act like he was entirely off base.
Floyd never even entertained the thought of fighting anyone mentioned.
Just kept brushing it to the side.
Regarding Leonards loss to Camacho "he shouldn't have fought him then".
Is that really the attitude you want from one of the most talented fighters ever?
You seem to be pretty bright, don't let your youth fool you into becoming a hardcore Flomo. Many of us think you're better than that.
It sucks when our favorite fighters make us fans look foolish, but it happens.
5 years Spacey, 5 years in the welterweight division without a single meaningful fight against a top tier opponent.
Don't give me that shit about Carlos or Zab either. At that time, both had been exposed as being highly beatable. Sometimes, the shitty guys make it to the top, but we know they're shitty because they never last long.
Floyd has the talent, but lacks the huevos to really shine.
Hes screwing all of us over by not making these great matchups, but just talking about what he would do.
btw, he went the right way about it. Kenny tried doing it the right way and what happens?
"you're not a boxer, you don't know nothing about it".
"ok Floyd, I work for ESPN, I can't say what I really want to say".
Kenny didn't go the right way about it either, there are suttle ways to go about it.
I said I understood the overall concept... fight the best, and you will be considered one of the best (already an ATG, but can be a bigger ATG by fighting 3 names), believe me... I understand that and agree with that fully... as a Floyd fan, but a Boxing fan first.
But... he contradicted himself and made himself look like a hypocrite several times, and I am just saying, people shouldn't bash Floyd for contradicting and not somebody else... that's doulbe standards and fair is fair. And he got more than a few little details wrong, he got a lot of things wrong, and then bashed Floyds saying "I know ALL the history Floyd, I know more than you!" then went on to get things from this so called load of history knowledge wrong, the only thing that we can all agree with is the overall message that was sent "fight the best and you will get the overall respect you deserve" as you said.
But, in RA's defense, Floyd as the Boxer should have handled the pressure better, plenty of stars get pressured in interviews, do I agree with it? No, but it happens so people can sell themselves... so Floyd should of kept his cool, but instead got pissed and made himself look pretty stupid too.
After the interview, both guys made themselved look a little stupid and RA sounded like a hypocrite, but his overall message was right... and I respect him for being a Boxing fan and wanting that to happen. What I don't respect is when a star calls in to your radio show and disrespecting him, he is doing them a favor by getting people to tune in, show some respect... he was doing RA a favor cause it helped popularise his radio show.
But, I do agree with you... Floyd should fight them, cause it will enhance his legacy, and as a Boxing fan I wanna see big fights... but I just wanted to be fair here. Don't worry either, I aint a nut hugger or a flomo, Floyd is my favorite fighter... but when I think he is wrong I will say (like when he was getting racial a few months ago... I honestly called him out on it). And you are right, sometimes the fighter can make the fans look stupid, it happens.
Your a cool guy and I have nothing against you personally like you seem cool with me, but obviously from time to time we will have different opinions on certain things. But I know that your a Boxing fan overall.
RA contradicted himself more than anybody in that interview. Funny how you constabtly complain about Floyd;s contradicting when defending himself but not about anybody elses contradictions when they are attacking him, I smell double standards.
But I did understand what RA was trying to say overall, he just went the wrong way about it.
"fight the best and you'll get the respect you seek" is basically the entire basis of the discussion.
I don't see a contradiction, just the sentiments echoed by the boxing community at large.
He may have gotten some small details wrong while in the heat of the moment, but don't act like he was entirely off base.
Floyd never even entertained the thought of fighting anyone mentioned.
Just kept brushing it to the side.
Regarding Leonards loss to Camacho "he shouldn't have fought him then".
Is that really the attitude you want from one of the most talented fighters ever?
You seem to be pretty bright, don't let your youth fool you into becoming a hardcore Flomo. Many of us think you're better than that.
It sucks when our favorite fighters make us fans look foolish, but it happens.
5 years Spacey, 5 years in the welterweight division without a single meaningful fight against a top tier opponent.
Don't give me that shit about Carlos or Zab either. At that time, both had been exposed as being highly beatable. Sometimes, the shitty guys make it to the top, but we know they're shitty because they never last long.
Floyd has the talent, but lacks the huevos to really shine.
Hes screwing all of us over by not making these great matchups, but just talking about what he would do.
btw, he went the right way about it. Kenny tried doing it the right way and what happens?
"you're not a boxer, you don't know nothing about it".
"ok Floyd, I work for ESPN, I can't say what I really want to say".
FLoyd is a fukking walking contradiction!!!!!
RA contradicted himself more than anybody in that interview. Funny how you constabtly complain about Floyd;s contradicting when defending himself but not about anybody elses contradictions when they are attacking him, I smell double standards.
But I did understand what RA was trying to say overall, he just went the wrong way about it.
Ok oldie, dont get mad and type to hard. Your old ass hands my turn to dust or something.
And the term unknown is self explanitory. If noone knows you, you are unknown.
RA could be recording a album across the street from me and i would know who the **** he is nore would 99% of people who listen to rap. And the reason for that is because He sucks.
Im sure you didnt have his CD in your car or his dick in your mouth before he pull his stunt on floyd. Just like evryone else.
Its cool though,He has his opinion about floyd ducking fighters. But he himself admitted Floyd was a great fighter.
RA is a C level rapper and he has no excuse.
Aight now go watch westerns and take a blood pressure pill before you have a heart attack.
How about trying to stay within the context of the convo instead of bowing out like a little bitch?
C or F level rapper,
the man spoke the truth and you're crying because of it.
Who is Sick Jacken?
Google it and tell me hes unknown too just because you've never heard of him.
Here try this guy,
Ben Harper.
or these cats,
Portishead.
oh wait,
here you go,
try Raheem Devaughn.
lol, you're 21 years old.
You don't know shit about shit.
RA is not unknown. Hes just not a mainstream rapper.
Unknown rappers are still making songs in their homies bedrooms.
lol getting a shot? Do you really think the most talented always get a shot?
You're entirely out of your realm when it comes to this discussion boy. The scope of Hiphop and how its processed is dramatically different from what it was even just 10 years ago.
I guess rappers like Soulja Boy, and the New Boyz are what you call good enough eh?
**** off my log chump. You have no idea about the politics surrounding the music industry.
Ok oldie, dont get mad and type to hard. Your old ass hands my turn to dust or something.
And the term unknown is self explanitory. If noone knows you, you are unknown.
RA could be recording a album across the street from me and i would know who the **** he is nore would 99% of people who listen to rap. And the reason for that is because He sucks.
Im sure you didnt have his CD in your car or his dick in your mouth before he pull his stunt on floyd. Just like evryone else.
Its cool though,He has his opinion about floyd ducking fighters. But he himself admitted Floyd was a great fighter.
RA is a C level rapper and he has no excuse.
Aight now go watch westerns and take a blood pressure pill before you have a heart attack.
this thread is awful. thread starter is trying to hard to make a point that no one cares about, he is now completly off topic.
and you just helped it stay at the top,
thanks!
:fing02:
Heres a clue,
when I see a thread I'm not feeling,
I bounce out of it.
Not sit like bitch and cry about it.
Try it, you'll be happier.
I didnt say all mainstream rapperes where the best. What im saying that if you are good enough youll get your shot at main stream, what you do with it is up to you. In RAs case he hasnt got a shot becaus ehe aint good enough. You dont rap damn near 20 years and still be unknown.
lol, you're 21 years old.
You don't know shit about shit.
RA is not unknown. Hes just not a mainstream rapper.
Unknown rappers are still making songs in their homies bedrooms.
lol getting a shot? Do you really think the most talented always get a shot?
You're entirely out of your realm when it comes to this discussion boy. The scope of Hiphop and how its processed is dramatically different from what it was even just 10 years ago.
I guess rappers like Soulja Boy, and the New Boyz are what you call good enough eh?
**** off my log chump. You have no idea about the politics surrounding the music industry.
didn't see that episode, but it wasn't a setup
.....i dont think you know what im talking about. Star was a dj on HOT97 new york, tigger went on there when he was still the host on BET, Star tore his ass up and humiliated him.
He also did it to prodigy of mobb deep, and it was funny as hell.
Yes as children we pick up something for the sheer enjoyment of it... But if that something ends up not being financially lucrative, we delegate it down into a hobby (like your guitar playing) or less, a seldom visited distraction from the grind of the day to day.
Even if you are doing something you love... Work ends up being work. And this concept of people doing what they love and just "happening" to get rich off it is skewed imo.. Overly idealistic. Starshine and moonbeams. Its closer to people trying to get money, and being lucky enough to enjoy what they do getting it.
Did you have a point of some kind?
Some people do things just because they love to do it.
Pretty simple concept.
But they were mainstream,
so they must have been better than everyone else.
I didnt say all mainstream rapperes where the best. What im saying that if you are good enough youll get your shot at main stream, what you do with it is up to you. In RAs case he hasnt got a shot becaus ehe aint good enough. You dont rap damn near 20 years and still be unknown.
You're into the latest fashion trends dipshit, you said so yourself.
Men, the ones who like females, walk into a store, see what they like, and buy it.
Because they like it, not because its the latest fashion trend, but simply because they like it.
Not because everyone else is wearing, or because its the latest in fashion,
but simply because,
they like it.
Sissy boys like you, keep tabs like little girls on whats "hot".
Men, don't have to worry about petty shit like that.
We wear what we wear without worrying about if the next man is digging my suit.
Ok, now youre commenting on my sexuality. If anyone is a dipshit its you. I dont need to see you or know you to be able to come to the conclusion I get tons more pussy than you currently do and ever have.
If anyone is gay its you, why would you even bring that shit up. You went from talking about my attire to my sexual prefferences. Thats homo in itself. I could give a shit how you dress or who you ****, why do you care so much about what im doin?
How bout this. We keep this shit boxing realted. Or Basketball anytime you wanna be made to look like a dumbass, ill extend an offer for the same with football or pretty anything to do with westeren civilzation or american history.