by the way the pads look, at least three fights
Margarito was cheating at least for the last three fights. maybe he cheated with the guy , i do not recall his name- that his ear was damage.
he broke someone's cheak bone in sparring & if he was going to use plaster for what was supposed to be a "stay active" fight.. why wouldn't he use it in the biggest fight of his life?
I don't think he only used it once.
I hear that familiar sound of Margarito's balls popping out of your mouth coming......POP. There it is. Yep, you're a Margarito nut hugger, no doubt. Lol. It's cool though, because you only lend validity to the rumors that he cheated, by making excuse after excuse for a guy that's suspended for cheating. If he hadn't cheated, or hadn't given the suspicion of cheating, or hadn't ADMITTED, that he didn't know what his trainer was doing...notice he didn't deny the plaster, only that he didn't know it was being inserted, another obvious lie....he would still be boxing right now. Nuff said, pendejo. :bottle:
Nope, i aint not Maragrito fan. If people are going to assume he used them against Cotto we should assume he used them in every fight of his career. But Cotto fans don't like that because that would mean other boxers beat Margarito while using plaster and Cotto couldn't.
My opinion is that there is no proof. And, until then I will say no he didn't. I finding hard to believe that Emanuel Steward who is vey knowledgable of the sport didn't notice anything. I find it hard to believe that Evangelista Cotto who is a boxing guy. And, a solid trainer didn't notice anything. So if they didn't think that he had illegal wraps then maybe just maybe he didn't have illegal wraps.
And, I just find interesting is that some people opinion is that he had in both Cintron fight. Which I say fine but he also fought Williams between those fights and in the William fight I didn't notice no plaster on Williams face.
But, then people say after Williams cuz he never showed power like that before. But, that is not true cuzz Margarito ripped a dude ear off. He KO'd Lewis like 4rds sooner than Mayorga did. He had Antonio Diaz all blodied. He has been the only one who has KO'd Martinez. So he has showed that type of power before.
Ok, I hear you just checking. LOL
My opinion is that there is no proof. And, until then I will say no he didn't. I finding hard to believe that Emanuel Steward who is vey knowledgable of the sport didn't notice anything. I find it hard to believe that Evangelista Cotto who is a boxing guy. And, a solid trainer didn't notice anything. So if they didn't think that he had illegal wraps then maybe just maybe he didn't have illegal wraps.
And, I just find interesting is that some people opinion is that he had in both Cintron fight. Which I say fine but he also fought Williams between those fights and in the William fight I didn't notice no plaster on Williams face.
But, then people say after Williams cuz he never showed power like that before. But, that is not true cuzz Margarito ripped a dude ear off. He KO'd Lewis like 4rds sooner than Mayorga did. He had Antonio Diaz all blodied. He has been the only one who has KO'd Martinez. So he has showed that type of power before.
but not only do you call into question the trainers who let this pass but also do you now distrust NY Nev and NJ because those are all states where Margarito has fought at. Surely as they confiscate the wraps after fights someone would have noticed his wraps becoming hard or brick like
So he used for the P-Will and Clottey fight?
yeah he just couldnt hit either guy cause of there superior D. In the Williams fight he didnt really land very much but in the later rounds Williams was still swollen up pretty good. Clottey just took those shots on the gloves, probably why his hand got reinjured.
That sucks, but cotto haters will probably say it was ketchup or from sparring. Their hate hate for cotto blinds them, same as some cotto fans are blind too. ME? I don't have any evidence, just using common sense.
ok then if you are using common sense then you should realize that the blood was from the fact that CRAPetillo creates pads during sparring and thats why there was blood on them and NOT from prior fights
how do I know this? because state athletic comissions confiscate the wraps after every fight at least they do in California and Nevada two states I cover fights at.
whether or not he cheated prior to the Mosley fight is hard to really gauge because as someone guestimated that he might have cheated probably after the Williams fight because of Margarito's KO streak they also failed to do their research
had they done their research they would have realized that only three welters to have gone the distance with Margarito
Williams- who has never been dropped or hurt in a fight
Clottey- had never been dropped or hurt in a fight up until Cotto
Danny Perez- who has never been stopped
since 1998 prior to the Mosley loss
thats over ten years and 20+ different fighters
so basing it on when Margarito's power might have increased IMO isn't a viable gauge because as I have shown he has consistently shown power at welterweight since 1998.
Hey J, I'm just curious are you trying to decipher others opinions. Form your own or have you changed yours ?
My opinion is that there is no proof. And, until then I will say no he didn't. I finding hard to believe that Emanuel Steward who is vey knowledgable of the sport didn't notice anything. I find it hard to believe that Evangelista Cotto who is a boxing guy. And, a solid trainer didn't notice anything. So if they didn't think that he had illegal wraps then maybe just maybe he didn't have illegal wraps.
And, I just find interesting is that some people opinion is that he had in both Cintron fight. Which I say fine but he also fought Williams between those fights and in the William fight I didn't notice no plaster on Williams face.
But, then people say after Williams cuz he never showed power like that before. But, that is not true cuzz Margarito ripped a dude ear off. He KO'd Lewis like 4rds sooner than Mayorga did. He had Antonio Diaz all blodied. He has been the only one who has KO'd Martinez. So he has showed that type of power before.
Well maybe he wanted to make a bigger name for himself by KOing the iron chinned Mosley?
I hear that familiar sound of Margarito's balls popping out of your mouth coming......POP. There it is. Yep, you're a Margarito nut hugger, no doubt. Lol. It's cool though, because you only lend validity to the rumors that he cheated, by making excuse after excuse for a guy that's suspended for cheating. If he hadn't cheated, or hadn't given the suspicion of cheating, or hadn't ADMITTED, that he didn't know what his trainer was doing...notice he didn't deny the plaster, only that he didn't know it was being inserted, another obvious lie....he would still be boxing right now. Nuff said, pendejo. :bottle:
my bad.
and cintron and golden johnson and cintron again and cotto.
Ok why didn't it affect P-Will and Clottey? P-Will won rd 12 against Margarito where the "plaster" would be rock hard right?
I think he has been doing it since way before Cintron. Probably most of his career. His trainer even said it he always wrapped his hands this way. Now he doesnt strike you as a guy who would lie about something like wrapping hands does he?
your telling me. no one puts on an old gauze with blood for no reason. He had already used them and they worked just fine. I would use new ones like very other boxer does, but since these were special Margaret put them on.
I think he has been doing it since way before Cintron. Probably most of his career. His trainer even said it he always wrapped his hands this way. Now he doesnt strike you as a guy who would lie about something like wrapping hands does he?
So he used for the P-Will and Clottey fight?
Just want to see how boxing scene fans view margarito and his cheating. If you really believe it started with Mosley or clottey, etc.
I think he has been doing it since way before Cintron. Probably most of his career. His trainer even said it he always wrapped his hands this way. Now he doesnt strike you as a guy who would lie about something like wrapping hands does he?
This is the last time I'm gonna personnally comment on this..since he cheated against mosley ..I believe he cheated cotto because the match with cotto was the biggest fight of his career..thats all I'm gonna say...oh yeah and cintron also.I think he cheated cintron both times.
His name is Sebastian Lujan...
So ok you saying then he had it for the P-Will and Clottey fight?
my bad.
and cintron and golden johnson and cintron again and cotto.
Just want to see how boxing scene fans view margarito and his cheating. If you really believe it started with Mosley or clottey, etc.
After the Paul Williams loss. Cause he couldnt afford to lose again or it meant his career