Carl Froch - revise the granite chin theory?

He was never hurt against taylor. the fact that he didnt see the punch coming and that he had a bad ankle were factors int he knock down. Watch the 3rd round. Froch was hurt, Taylor hurt him with 3 shots, the third was knockdown. Froch was lucky, that Taylor is a bad finisher, but more than that, he just had 30 secs. to finish Froch. Froch has a good chin, maybe a granite one, but he is way too open, sloppy and wild. His punches are too wide, but his opposition was not capable of taking advantage of that. I like Froch, he has heart, wants to fight the best and I think he isnt ducking anybody. But he clearly lost to Dirrel, and even Dirrel hurt Froch. Froch will have big problems against Kessler and AA. He quit has a chance, but with his heart and his chin he wont win against these two. And I go further. Froch is in his prime. He is what he performed in his last fights. A strong, powerfull slugger in his prime. But this prime will be not long and if gets his first loses, he will fade away. I dont like Calzaghe, but he should be happy not to fight him, even I like Frochs calling outs. If Dirrel made Froch loke like a fool, I have no doubt Calz. would do it too.

you can tell from his tiny little jaw line but truthfully, it's harder to hit someone solid when they have their hands down than it it when they dont your much more free to roll and slip punches Example of Swirls sparring in the gym.

I think hes got a very good chin, think Abraham may really test it though.

He was never hurt against taylor. the fact that he didnt see the punch coming and that he had a bad ankle were factors int he knock down.

to have a good chin is important but it shouldn't be put on display. It terms in a tuff guy competition it should be about the craft of getting a KO or landing more effective punches. it's also about how styles make fights... I saw a decent up and comer and apparently he has a good chin kid diamond they called him the fight went on and on... he was taking crazy bad punishment but because he has a history of a "good chin" they allowed the fight to continue... that was 5 years ago and, he got KOed in that fight baaad and i havent heard anything about him since. I know everyone wants the KO but when one guy is clearly outclassed and taking punishment they should shut it down.... it's about people lives here too. Lmao, That line there cracks me up...On display like Naz who basically leaves his chin hanging in the air.

everyone starting off has to start with thier hands up, i get that, i went through that but once you get to the point where you dont shit yourself(close your eyes) everytime a punch is thrown and if you can trust your reflexes, it's perfectly safe to have your hands down and it opens up counter opportunities first off if your always with your guard up your robotic, you dont have a choice, you gonna be robotic if you have your hands down your honestly not as big a target to hit and you can move more fluidly and punch back from angles it's really not that hard, if you boxed you wont be afraid of a punch coming at you, and you dont panic so you can think and react quick and just 'move' with your guard up you gotta take punishment to land punishment it's not often you see someone with a high guard just jump back avoiding a punch and jumping back in landing a counter, now that's not easy if you got the high guard you gotta take the punch to the arms(hopeyfully you saw where your opponent threw, being straight down the pipe OR a looping punch around the guard) and only then can you land your punch simply turning your head can avoid alot of hooks simply shifting yoru head to one side can avoid a straight punch i dont expect you to understand as you've probabley never boxed, im just stating what i was taught whether it's wrong or not Looks like 99% of boxers including the ATG's were/are just starting out, and you have got some matrix skills and will be the GOAT.

Froch has only been down once in his entire career as a ameture and a pro. Its probably fair to say that Froch's chin, stamina, and all round will to win are what have taken him this far.

Pascal was never a huge puncher so taking bombs off him isn't that great right? Was hurt and down vs Taylor who is not that big of a puncher it seems at 168 and hasn't had a ko in 5 years, hurt against Dirrell at one point. Kessler will knock his head off right? Kessler will put him down within six rounds.

Then why do all boxers bother keeping their hands up the majority of the time? because it's less risky Benitez and Whitaker dropped their hands all day and they never got hit If you plan on attacking more its good to have your hands up anyways

wow you wanna keep your hands up

Nothing last night to suggest any different from what I thought already. Even the granite jawed still get shaken by the odd punch that lands cleanly. Dirrell never seriously hurt him. I think we'll probably find out against Kessler.

i bet, im a boxer and my trainer says to keep my hands down when fighting at a distance, the guard should come up in the inside as having your hands by your waist blah blah(read my other posts) again, you dont know shit fukkin internet warrios think they know how to fight because they've watched some boxing matches Oh shit, you need a new trainer. Either that or you're lying about being a boxer. Please name all the boxers you know who keep both hands down. :lol1:

you can tell from his tiny little jaw line but truthfully, it's harder to hit someone solid when they have their hands down than it it when they dont your much more free to roll and slip punches You officially don't know shit. Any boxer/trainer would say the same.

i think he's got a decent chin, but not a granite one.