It seems like every Cotto and Margarito fan I come across on here is picking Pavlik to beat Williams like Rojelio, HTown Texan, and Chicano 79 as the Margo fans, and Ch&mpbox and a few other Cotto fans. My question is, who are you rooting for? It seems like you want this guy to fall and you are preying for it. Probably because he was just better than Margo and Cotto. I know that Margarito fans got flamed hard and the Williams-Margarito rematch topic would generate like 15 to 20 pages in a thread in some cases with Margarito fans trying to defend him when it was Paul Williams who offered the rematch to Margarito when Cintron pulled out with that injury and Margo said no. And then we can't forget about the 4 million dollar offer to Margo. The only thing that Margarito did was petition to become #1 in the WBO. He never asked for a rematch. And regarding Cotto: Well, we know the situation there.
With all that said, are you Cotto and Margarito fans rooting for Paul Williams to lose to Pavlik now, or are you just picking him to lose?
Let me say,any Cotto fan coming on here saying Quintana beat the Punisher should stop their nonsense!!Because if U go that route,U will be set straight,with this,"Margarito destroyed Cotto,after the Punisher whooped him",so U shouldn't dance if U only got 1 leg!!This coming from a Cotto fan as well!!
not me!!!!!!
I GOT FAITH IN THE PUNISHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ONLY MAN CLIMBING THE MOUNTAIN THE HARD WAY!!!
ps: "please GOD, let them chant for paul this time ok???"
GUERRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! :boxing:
I dont know why you said Mosley beat Cotto you must be blind... by the way this is not olympic boxing it is professional boxing so dont count punches like a dumb ass just watch the fight and learn that machines mean shit to real boxing fans... I have counted punches just to test that damn stupid machine and it fails.... Also some punches dont even land they stay in the gloves just like Mosley did all night against Cotto.. I am a fan of both fighters but you were not watching the fight with a neutral eye that night you are a Cotto hater I can see it.
Cotto beat him fair and square and Mosley knows it.. he accepted it and he was on the ring........ you my friend are just another hater.
I had Mosley beating Cotto. You are right. But until now, when the
fuck did I mention that fight on this thread?
he was better than cotto? las ttime i checked, he lost against a guy cotto brutally beat.
it took him 13 rounds and a loss to beat quintana, while it took 5 rounds to cotto
he beat plaster boy by UD, while margo demolished cotto in the 11th
there's no way to tell who is better between the two really, but who on clottey's caliber has williams beaten recently?
The current version of Winky Wright would beat both Cotto and Clottey. And this is coming from someone who thinks Clottey and Cotto are more exciting than Winky.
He also should definitely be ahead of Cotto on P4P lists even if Cotto beats Pacquiao. Beating Pavlik while moving up in weight > Beating a smaller guy in Pacquiao. Of course the win over Pavlik would have to happen for that to be warranted.
Williams isn't slick enough to dodge Pavliks BOMBS..I think this will be similar to Taylor-Pavlik I ..Williams will have success early..until his chin cracks..and I'm predicting an 8th RD KO for Pavlik..
I'm not rooting for neither..I just feel that Williams hasn't been tested and is slightly overrated..
How is Williams overrated seeing as he i sbetter than quite a few on the P4P list?
Pavlik by way of a nasty a$$ KO. But we all know is going 2 b a great clash. Both have similar styles with PWill a lil bit more foot work and da ghost with more power. Late KO.
When a fighter moves up in weight the most commonly asked question is will he bring his strength with him ? We all know Williams isn't known for knocking guys out but for his work rate. Pavlick on the other hand is known for both work rate and power. With this said I see Pavlick winning a close fight. Williams won't be able to nulify Pavlick's power except by holding and grabbing. This fight might be ugly. I'm rooting for Williams but I don't see him winning.
Williams clearly said at the end of the fight that he didn't have his rhythm for some reason. If you've seen Williams enough, you know that that was obviously true. It was a bad night nothing else.
I only brought it up, because a loss is a loss, regardless of how many skills Pwill brought to the table. A bad night? Maybe..A sign that a more powerful puncher could nullify his skills like a lesser puncher did..Definitely. You may be the baddest mother ****er on earth, but when your momentum is met with an opposing force coming in with incredible power, you skillz aint shit.
yet that would be all they are: excuses
quintana fought the perfect fight and made him look like an amateur at times. the funny thing is, williams didn't make excuses, yet you have a hundred :rofl:
Williams clearly said at the end of the fight that he didn't have his rhythm for some reason. If you've seen Williams enough, you know that that was obviously true. It was a bad night nothing else.
Pavlik had enough skills to take out taylor, who's a pretty good boxer in his own rights. And Quintana wasn't boxing the shit outta Cotto, get real. They were at each other good, yeah, but Cotto was clearly outclassing him. Pwill is good, I never said he wasn't, and all I said was I don't think he can handle Pavlik's power, which is more than anything he's faced so far. Nothing "retarded" about that. :boxing:
Your reasoning for why he wouldn't be able to handle Pavlik's power was stupid and you brought up Quintana to back up your argument which was completely irrelevant which is why I took exception. Paul is more skilled than Pavlik in every way. If you want to argue that Pavlik's power is too much that's fine, but don't bring up bullshit like the Quintana fight.
just like quintana couldn't last 5 against cotto... oh wait, wasn't quintana the one who beat williams?
He beat him once yep. The Paul destroyed him and made him contemplate retirement. Besides apples to oranges. Cotto would NEVER be able to do what Quintana was able to do once in his life when Paul fought the worst fight of his life. That was his fault, but he totally phoned in that fight. I could give another hundred excuses why Paul lost, but I won't.
That is some retarded math you are using there. Pavik doesn't have boxing skills like Quintana either. He fights completely the opposite. All he has is power. Paul is more skilled in every other way. BTW Quintana was boxing the shit outta Cotto until he stopped because he's soft.
Pavlik had enough skills to take out taylor, who's a pretty good boxer in his own rights. And Quintana wasn't boxing the shit outta Cotto, get real. They were at each other good, yeah, but Cotto was clearly outclassing him. Pwill is good, I never said he wasn't, and all I said was I don't think he can handle Pavlik's power, which is more than anything he's faced so far. Nothing "retarded" about that. :boxing:
I like Palik in this one , i dont think Williams will carry enough power @160 to stop Pavlik in his tracks , having said that Williams does have the size to nullify Pavliks strength on the inside and in the clinch ala B Hop .
Overall i like Pavlik by stoppage but i do beleive PW has the tools to do him and im kinda hopin he does !!!!!!!
Makes sense if you read it right. Paul had trouble with Quintana in every aspect...speed, boxing tech, and power shots. Quintana had trouble with Cotto in every aspect...speed, boxing tech and power shots. If paul had trouble handling Quintana's skills, he may not be able to handle a much more powerful Pavlik's skills. Get it now? The Cotto comparison was for those that say that Pwill is better than Cotto, without having seen them fight. :boxing:
That is some retarded math you are using there. Pavik doesn't have boxing skills like Quintana either. He fights completely the opposite. All he has is power. Paul is more skilled in every other way. BTW Quintana was boxing the shit outta Cotto until he stopped because he's soft.
That makes no sense at all. Paul can't handle Pavlik's power because Quintana couldn't handle Cotto's? WTF is that non-sense?
Makes sense if you read it right. Paul had trouble with Quintana in every aspect...speed, boxing tech, and power shots. Quintana had trouble with Cotto in every aspect...speed, boxing tech and power shots. If paul had trouble handling Quintana's skills, he may not be able to handle a much more powerful Pavlik's skills. Get it now? The Cotto comparison was for those that say that Pwill is better than Cotto, without having seen them fight. :boxing:
I lile Pwill, but i'm not impressed by his style. Pavlik packs a punch, and if Pwill cant handle that kind of power, he's not gonna last. Quintana beat Pwill convincingly, and I know Quintana could never handle Pavliks power, since he couldn't handle Cotto's power, which leads me to believe that Pwill won't either. Hope it makes for a great fight though. I like them both.
That makes no sense at all. Paul can't handle Pavlik's power because Quintana couldn't handle Cotto's? WTF is that non-sense?