I hear all this JuanMa ducking Caballero shit and I ask myself, why do so many people want to see JuanMa fight this ****ing scrub?Is everyone forgetting how Caba struggled against Mathebula and in my opinion lost to a journeyman Lacivera?This ****er is so overrated it ain't even funny!What is the big deal I ask myself!
I know he is ranked #1 but the ****er has been struggling with mediocre opposition and basically sucks balls!JuanMa struggles with Mtgawa and you guys give him shit but this ****er gets away with it?I really think JuanMa should move to better and bigger things like maybe a C. Jhon or R. Marquez fight which are miles ahead of Caba in talent and acommplishments.
I think this is just a case of him making all this noise to the media and getting into people's head, kind of like Maliggnagi did!
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=315344
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Oh, i see, now we're calling names......alright, i got you......
regardless of your clip, JMl can say all he wants but if he aint gunnin and pushin for the fight, then talkin out his ass dont mean shit.......
So why give Caballero props for beating Molitor then? Damn hipocrites!!!
I don't. But the fight was at least a unification fight. Lopez is afraid to fight Cab because he is a puncher. Is Cab afraid of Lopez because he's got some power himself? I don't think so. That's why Cab gets my props for wanting to fight the best unlike JuanMaDaddyArum.
I dont have a problem with that. Thats sounds like a good plan.
But Juanma will need a title before fighting Gamboa to make the fight more appealing if I wa sthem I would have Caballero-Juanma, Luevano-Santiago 2 and Gamboa-Rojas since Gamboa have unfinish bussines with him!
Then the winner of Luevano-Santiago fights the winner of Juanma-Caba and the winner of ROjas-Gamboa fights john!!!
That's a good idea too. Make it a triple header, but HBO wouldn't do that and Luevano def. wouldn't rematch Santiago in Puerto Rico.
But Gamboa would fight Lopez if he beat Rojas. Arum wants that fight for the puerto rican parade in New york.
I'd like to see Vazquez fight John next.
So why give Caballero props for beating Molitor then? Damn hipocrites!!!
Lol good point, but I'd give Lopez credit for beating Luevano. He just needs to fight Caballero, who is a better fighter, first.
Also it makes much more sense for Lopez to clean out 122 and have Gamboa fight Luevano. If gamboa beats luevano, which he probably would, then Gamboa Lopez in June is for a title.
Thats a great post, but I dont agree with the bold. Accomplishments wise Caballero>>>>>>Luevano for sure, but Luevano is a way better fighter and boxer by far!!!
I like Luevano and I think he's pretty underrated on here and he's a solid fighter, but Caballero has a better jab, moves better, and puts pretty good combinations. When he uses his height, he is a better fighter. When he gets pressured and does not use his height, he is not a better fighter then Luevano.
Thats a great post, but I dont agree with the bold. Accomplishments wise Caballero>>>>>>Luevano for sure, but Luevano is a way better fighter and boxer by far!!!
No he's not. He's got the same exact kind of style as Molitor. Another safe feather-fisted puncher for Juan Ma. Spin it however you like.
Because he's beaten the best contenders in his weight class that were avaliable when Marquez and Vazquez were fighting each other.
Molitor was highly regarded on here around their fight and Caballero wrecked him. He's also beaten a lot of other noteables who were good fighters.
People give him shit for looking like crap two fights ago, which I'm pretty sure no one has seen it. Not positive, but I'm pretty sure Mathebula is huge for 122 like Caballero is. Also I saw this excuse used for Lopez too, since Mtwaga had a good majority of fights at 126, so did Mathebula.
People saying that Juanma needs to move up because he's too big for 126 and that's why he shouldn't fight Caballero, but it's not like Caballero hasn't had trouble making weight himself. Remember those talks of him fighting Gamboa because he said he had a tough time making 122? That was about a year ago and he can still make the weight.
This fight just makes too much sense for it not to happen. Caballero is better then Luevano...
I hear all this JuanMa ducking Caballero shit and I ask myself, why do so many people want to see JuanMa fight this ****ing scrub?Is everyone forgetting how Caba struggled against Mathebula and in my opinion lost to a journeyman Lacivera?This ****er is so overrated it ain't even funny!What is the big deal I ask myself!
I know he is ranked #1 but the ****er has been struggling with mediocre opposition and basically sucks balls!JuanMa struggles with Mtgawa and you guys give him shit but this ****er gets away with it?I really think JuanMa should move to better and bigger things like maybe a C. Jhon or R. Marquez fight which are miles ahead of Caba in talent and acommplishments.
I think this is just a case of him making all this noise to the media and getting into people's head, kind of like Maliggnagi did!
Because he is the best fighting in Lopezs weightclass and thats undeniable. People would prefer Lopez to clean out his weight class, Caba is better than the past 4 guys hes fought and Ponce De Leon.
It'd be the biggest test of his career and IMO C.J and R. Marquez might too big a jump for Lopez (on what we've seen with Mtagwa) Caba is the perfect measureing stick for him at world class level.
I hear all this JuanMa ducking Caballero shit and I ask myself, why do so many people want to see JuanMa fight this ****ing scrub?Is everyone forgetting how Caba struggled against Mathebula and in my opinion lost to a journeyman Lacivera?This ****er is so overrated it ain't even funny!What is the big deal I ask myself!
I know he is ranked #1 but the ****er has been struggling with mediocre opposition and basically sucks balls!JuanMa struggles with Mtgawa and you guys give him shit but this ****er gets away with it?I really think JuanMa should move to better and bigger things like maybe a C. Jhon or R. Marquez fight which are miles ahead of Caba in talent and acommplishments.
I think this is just a case of him making all this noise to the media and getting into people's head, kind of like Maliggnagi did!
In short, you are scared of Caba KOing Juanma
That he is 5'11" and fights at 122lbs, thats it.
Juanma will starch his ass when ever they end up fighting!!!
C'mon vato, JML still aint sayin Caba's name......He talked all that mess before the Mtagwa fight, yet after, puro silencio......i dont get it.....
I really think JuanMa should move to better and bigger things like maybe a C. Jhon or R. Marquez fight which are miles ahead of Caba in talent and acommplishments.
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At this point, I think Marquez K's-JML-TFO and John wins by UD.
As for Caba....he's a unified champ at 122, has fought all comers and just wants to prove he's the best in that division. Nothing wrong w/ trying to unify even more and calling out a guy (JML) who really hasnt fought anyone, yet......so whats the problem?
I agree someone brought up the ring P4P rankings the other day and I was just amazed at how soft it was. Half the dudes have barely fought this year, is this really the best the sport has to offer?
Apparently that list is not accurate, though.
Thank god.
Doniare at 2? Mosley, who lost to cotto, at three (ABOVE HOPKINS!?!?! when did he jump Bhop? he hasnt fought since Jan?) (Cotto at 8)
JMM, who just got whooped by Floyd is at 5 and Floyd is at 8.
Callerbo is on the list!
Inactive guys like Rafa and Vasquez are there.
That is one of the worst lists I have EVER seen the Ring put out.:lol1::lol1:
I agree someone brought up the ring P4P rankings the other day and I was just amazed at how soft it was. Half the dudes have barely fought this year, is this really the best the sport has to offer?