Where do you rate Joe Louis as a heavyweight?

Yeah the only thing he lacks is size (compared to biggest modern fighters) and his chin could be better. Great at pursuing and finishing off his opponents, Great power. The only losses he really suffered were towards the downfall of his career, he was untouchable in his prime.

I think Louis had everything, great boxer and he was very successful. Yeah the only thing he lacks is size (compared to biggest modern fighters) and his chin could be better. Great at pursuing and finishing off his opponents, Great power.

Yeah people have lots of different criterion for rating fighters to, some rate based on achivment and some rate based on who beats who. It's hard to compare. I think Louis had everything, great boxer and he was very successful.

Thats the lowest I think anyone will ever rate Louis. But its all opinion. Yeah people have lots of different criterion for rating fighters to, some rate based on achivment and some rate based on who beats who. It's hard to compare.

I have Louis at #3 behind Ali and Foreman. Thats the lowest I think anyone will ever rate Louis. But its all opinion.

I have Louis at #3 behind Ali and Foreman.

The man had arguably the best comeback in boxing history. I couldn't put in Frazier. Someone wasn't paying attention:nonono: Appolo Creed:biggthump

Originally Posted by Rabbit-Punches View Post 1.Muhammad Ali 2.Joe Louis 3.George Foreman 4.Jack Johnson 5.Jack Dempsey 6.Apollo Creed (Let's see who's paying attention) 7.Larry Holmes 8.Rocky Marciano 9.Lennox Lewis 10.Evander Holyfield Haha Apollo Creed, that should be Frazier

1.Muhammad Ali 2.Joe Louis 3.George Foreman 4.Jack Johnson 5.Jack Dempsey 6.Apollo Creed (Let's see who's paying attention) 7.Larry Holmes 8.Rocky Marciano 9.Lennox Lewis 10.Evander Holyfield That's the highest I ever seen Foreman. And you don't even have Frazier

Hey you might be right. I think the Tyson of 86-89 could hang with the best of him. He had power, quickiness, and aglity. He threw combo's he went to the body beautifully. That Tyson would of gave everybody hell. However, the reason he is out of my list is that is only a 3yr span of greatness. He didn't have the longevity of making my list. But, I agree he might be a top 10. The Tyson of the 90's was a shell of the baddest man of the late 80's. Jack Dempsey: Won title: July 4, 1919 Lost title: September 23, 1926 {Gene Tunney} Title defenses: 6 3 year layoff/inactivity right after the Firpo fight...Sept. 14, 1923 If you -3 years for the inactivity which shouldn't count as holding the title...his reign is a lot shorter. Rocky Marciano: Won title: September 23, 1952 Last fight: September 21, 1955 3 years (since it is close enough) 6 title defenses: Walcott rematch; LaStarza rematch; Charles 2x; Cockell; Moore. Mike Tyson: Won title: November 22, 1986 Lost title: February 11, 1990 3+ years Title defenses 9 That's just the numbers. What hurts Tyson would be that he had the talent but wasted it. He couldn't hold up. He even said he wanted to retire after Spinks yet instead of retiring, which was quite young to do so, he decided to just throw his career in the garbage. Unlike say, Marciano and we will skip some of the negatives...Marciano prepared for each and every fight to full capacity and when he had enough, he called it a day (and did not return). That's something I like about him. He came prepared because he took his career seriously and when enough was enough, he called it a day instead of throwing it away. Knock on Dempsey would be that he didn't fight Black fighters as Champion and he went Hollywood for 3 years. 3 Years that he could have been a pitbull tearing shit up...but instead, the Pitbull was well fed and lost what made him great as well as his title upon his return. I don't know; lists are hard to make. Still don't have one myself even though I guess I have 10 fighters I could put in a pile and say these are the 10 guys I choose but couldn't put them in a particular order...except Ali and Louis at 1and 2.

Good list but I still think Tyson is top 10 Hey you might be right. I think the Tyson of 86-89 could hang with the best of him. He had power, quickiness, and aglity. He threw combo's he went to the body beautifully. That Tyson would of gave everybody hell. However, the reason he is out of my list is that is only a 3yr span of greatness. He didn't have the longevity of making my list. But, I agree he might be a top 10. The Tyson of the 90's was a shell of the baddest man of the late 80's.

Yeah, sorry. Joe Louis I mean. Louis was the best heavyweight boxer ever. I don't understand how some people could rate him as #1. I think some question his opponents but I have him in a tie with Ali

1. Ali 2. Louis 3. Johnson 4. Foreman 5. Marciano 6. Holmes 7. Dempsey 8. Lewis 9. Holyfield 10. Frazier Good list but I still think Tyson is top 10

1. Ali 2. Louis 3. Johnson 4. Foreman 5. Marciano 6. Holmes 7. Dempsey 8. Lewis 9. Holyfield 10. Frazier

#1 all time

I have to strongly disagree. Joe Louis was perfectly rounded and had possible the best accuracy I've ever seen. I am not going to argue with you. If you have Louis at #1. You can't go wrong with either one. I would not even argue if somebody had Jack Johnson ahead of Ali. However, the reason why I say Ali is #1? The resume. Compare resume's. Ali fought in the toughest HW era ever. And, he fought everybody that posed a threat in that era. Louis had a lot of that bum of the month type of fights. And, I am not trying to knock him cuz he was great. But, IMO Ali fought the better and won.

1.Muhammad Ali 2.Joe Louis 3.George Foreman 4.Jack Johnson 5.Jack Dempsey 6.Apollo Creed (Let's see who's paying attention) 7.Larry Holmes 8.Rocky Marciano 9.Lennox Lewis 10.Evander Holyfield I did. :lol1:

I have to agree with most in this thread inside the top 2, either way you can not really go wrong. Being from Detroit though I have to go with The Brown Bomber as number 1.

Hhaha oh wow, total Ali fan! Yep, I admit it.

I have Louis as number two behind Ali.