I mean Tito ruined him (maybe with plaster, but thats another story)
Now lets look at Vargas..
1. He's punch drunk.. I barely can understand 1 word of every sentence..
Its always said when its a clear case. He used to be a very fast talker. And actually articulate.. now he barely put together words.. Its not nearly as bad as Meldric or Toney.. But its pretty bad..
2. He's fat as hell.. He looks like chubby lesbian..
3. He is suing his freaking MOTHER and kicking her out of his home... Unreal
I smell money problems. He's talking about coming back too.. That means he is broke..
Punch drunk, fat, poor family relationship and broke..
Boxing did a number on that guy
It would've been good to see him back up his skills with his trash talking, but he did have a 'gung-ho' attitude. He'd fight whoever, win or lose.
At some point in his career, he decided he would fight at the biggest events
and was paid well for it, despite being rushed too early.
i blame his corner, they should have thrown the towel, there was no way he was going to win that fight, and he was taking career-ending punishment at that point. You can clap for his heart, but the truth is his corner let him believe the hype, so they have this young ass kid in this position where he thinks the only way to leave the ring is with the W, or on a stretcher. Just plain dumb.
We criticize fighters for quitting AND criticize a fighter for having TOO MUCH HEART?? This shit doesn't make any sense.
Fernando was a ****ing warrior who always laid it all on the line every time out. How many fighters nowadays can you say taht about?
tito did'nt use plaster, his dad wrapped his hands with tape before using the gauze, and everyone knows how hard that makes your punch. its practically the same as plaster
Doesn't change the fact that to some people his record is questionable.
In the end though, who was wrong?? You asshole.
I said the fight was signed.
you said it wasn't.
proof of the fight being a done deal:
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=21979
later in a bizare twist of events, hbo doesn't have a date and doesn't want to televise the fight:
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=22115
you can't have a fight if it's not televised, not at that level.
so it fell through.. no one was anticipating HBO to **** Mosley the way they did.
now see.. that is how you provide proof ^^^
unlike someone who just spews out bullshit and hear say.
It has nothing to do with Rican you dumb fuck. Naz said the same shit about Margs wraps or something really close to it, describing it like Tito's.
Oh yea asshole.....where's Mosley vs Clottey??
He said, she said.. you know what that amounts to? Bullshit.
I'm still waiting to see an article where an athletic commision found Tito
guilty after inspection of plastering his gloves...
c'mon now, you gonna talk like it's fact you better post some proof.
oh & I can't be blamed for the deal being scratched. It was penn'd and a date was set..
Contracts were a go, sept for HBO getting in the way.
I was right, at the time, you were wrong. Not my fault you don't follow and keep up with boxing.
I wish he coulda reached his full potential. But I ain't sorry for him. He a pro fighter who had the balls to challenge himself to the full. It cut him short, but he still had a good career.
Why should it?? Tito got busted after for his wraps. Just like people could question Margs, then its fair to question Tito.
Tito never got busted for his wraps, please post a link where it says he did or proof of it.
Hopkins trainers just disagreed to how they were wrapped, something about the tape.
Never was their plaster in his shit. This is coming from a guy who don't even like Tito too.
Quit hating on the guy just because he is Puerto Rican though.
He earned my respect for getting up from 2 huge left hooks in the first round to staying in the fight until he got KO in the 12 and final round.
But still, putting a 21 year old in with a seasoned veteran like Tito who also happened to be the most dangerous puncher in those devisions was a pretty stupid thing to do.
I saw his acting skills in Alpha Dog and I knew he had been punched too much.
i blame his corner, they should have thrown the towel, there was no way he was going to win that fight, and he was taking career-ending punishment at that point. You can clap for his heart, but the truth is his corner let him believe the hype, so they have this young ass kid in this position where he thinks the only way to leave the ring is with the W, or on a stretcher. Just plain dumb.
Yeah I worry about him making a comeback. After all of the punishment he has taken, and then when you consider how badly he has taken care of himself outside of the ring... its not looking pretty.
It sucks that Vargas turned out to be one of those guys who's hard to even understand. Three years ago I didn't expect it, although with his career it makes sense. He took some bad punishment against Tito and Oscar.
I mean Tito ruined him (maybe with plaster, but thats another story)
Now lets look at Vargas..
1. He's punch drunk.. I barely can understand 1 word of every sentence..
Its always said when its a clear case. He used to be a very fast talker. And actually articulate.. now he barely put together words.. Its not nearly as bad as Meldric or Toney.. But its pretty bad..
2. He's fat as hell.. He looks like chubby lesbian..
3. He is suing his freaking MOTHER and kicking her out of his home... Unreal
I smell money problems. He's talking about coming back too.. That means he is broke..
Punch drunk, fat, poor family relationship and broke..
Boxing did a number on that guy
I feel bad because he's an underachiever, they threw him to the lions too early.
BTW it's very idiotic to say that Tito used plaster, he just stood in front of Tito the whole night and got KOed. That was a very entertaining fight.
I mean Tito ruined him (maybe with plaster, but thats another story)
Now lets look at Vargas..
1. He's punch drunk.. I barely can understand 1 word of every sentence..
Its always said when its a clear case. He used to be a very fast talker. And actually articulate.. now he barely put together words.. Its not nearly as bad as Meldric or Toney.. But its pretty bad..
2. He's fat as hell.. He looks like chubby lesbian..
3. He is suing his freaking MOTHER and kicking her out of his home... Unreal
I smell money problems. He's talking about coming back too.. That means he is broke..
Punch drunk, fat, poor family relationship and broke..
Boxing did a number on that guy
what plaster do you idiots keep referring to there was never any plaster or elements of plaster found he was asked to re wrap his hands because nazim felt there was excess gauze. there was never a suspension or any penalty against tito like margacheato.
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