Worst division in boxing right now?

Heavyweight for me. Been in terminal decline for years. The fact that Haye can get a championship fight after one HW fight shows what a joke the division is.

I specifically wrote why I put that division on there. It wasn't supposed to be getting votes, it was just interesting to me that the champions suck so much more than the notables who don't hold ABC belts. If there is a case to be made about why ABC belts have lost their status in the sport, it's the light heavyweight division. Also, aren't you proud of me for leaving Wright off the notables in the middleweight division? I didn't notice that, you're right though he's not really a threat to some of the top contenders in MW. For someone who is regarded as a really good boxer, he got brutalized by Williams.

You put the LHW division on that list, but not the CW division when the LHW division has much better talent. Pascal is a very good fighter, has a very interesting style, very skilled. Cloud is still young, but he was very impressive against Clinton Woods. Campillo is a good boxer. The LHW division has some good prospects like Nathan Cleverly and Karo Murat. Also Nathan Cleverly hopes to fight Zsolt Erdei by next year and his streak of fighting nobodies. Once the prospects start stepping up in competition and SMW boxers move up to LHW, the LHW division will be hot again. I specifically wrote why I put that division on there. It wasn't supposed to be getting votes, it was just interesting to me that the champions suck so much more than the notables who don't hold ABC belts. If there is a case to be made about why ABC belts have lost their status in the sport, it's the light heavyweight division. Also, aren't you proud of me for leaving Wright off the notables in the middleweight division?

Disclaimer: I know nothing about the division under 122, so I can't comment on them. 126 Champions - John, Luevano, Cruz, Rojas Other notables - Gamboa, Vazquez, Marquez My thoughts - John hasn't shown any class against Juarez in my opinion. Luevano got knocked out by Honorio, but looks pretty okay at this point. The draw with Santiago is a bit alarming. Cruz is awful, end of story. Rojas seems to have some potential. Gamboa is a very good prospect, but there is a danger that he gets clipped by someone who can tame his wild style. Vazquez and Marquez are past their best days. 130 Champions - Soto, Guerrero, Martinez, Linares Other notables - ... none really My thoughts - Linares alone probably makes this division better than 126. Guerrero and Soto are pretty good too, but... outside of the champions, this division is AWFUL. 160 Champions - Pavlik, Sturm, Sylvester Other notables - Williams My thoughts - Pavlik is a very good fighter, but has refused to fight anyone in his title defenses. Thank god he is fighting Williams next. Sturm is not overly good. A questionable decision against Gevor and being knocked out by Castillejo is not a good sign of his ability. Sylvester is terrible. Williams alone probably keeps this division off the bottom of the list. He's such a versatile fighter, that it really brings some luster into the division after his win over Wright. 175 Champions - Pascal, Campillo, Erdei, Cloud Other notables - Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson, Jones, Tarver My thoughts - This is obviously not the worst division, but... the list of champions is as dismal as any I've ever seen. Cloud doesn't impress me. Pascal isn't very good either (he got rocked repeatedly by a journeyman on FNF and lost to Froch FFS). Erdei is a waste of talent and Campillo seems terrible. Hopkins and Dawson make this a decent division at worst. Johnson, Jones and Tarver sweeten it a bit more on top of that. You put the LHW division on that list, but not the CW division when the LHW division has much better talent. Pascal is a very good fighter, has a very interesting style, very skilled. Cloud is still young, but he was very impressive against Clinton Woods. Campillo is a good boxer. The LHW division has some good prospects like Nathan Cleverly and Karo Murat. Also Nathan Cleverly hopes to fight Zsolt Erdei by next year and end his streak of fighting nobodies. Once the prospects start stepping up in competition and SMW boxers move up to LHW, the LHW division will be hot again.

those divisions, none of them are really that good

160 is the worst for me and the division has been bad for a very long time.

Disclaimer: I know nothing about the division under 122, so I can't comment on them. 126 Champions - John, Luevano, Cruz, Rojas Other notables - Gamboa, Vazquez, Marquez My thoughts - John hasn't shown any class against Juarez in my opinion. Luevano got knocked out by Honorio, but looks pretty okay at this point. The draw with Santiago is a bit alarming. Cruz is awful, end of story. Rojas seems to have some potential. Gamboa is a very good prospect, but there is a danger that he gets clipped by someone who can tame his wild style. Vazquez and Marquez are past their best days. 130 Champions - Soto, Guerrero, Martinez, Linares Other notables - ... none really My thoughts - Linares alone probably makes this division better than 126. Guerrero and Soto are pretty good too, but... outside of the champions, this division is AWFUL. 160 Champions - Pavlik, Sturm, Sylvester Other notables - Williams My thoughts - Pavlik is a very good fighter, but has refused to fight anyone in his title defenses. Thank god he is fighting Williams next. Sturm is not overly good. A questionable decision against Gevor and being knocked out by Castillejo is not a good sign of his ability. Sylvester is terrible. Williams alone probably keeps this division off the bottom of the list. He's such a versatile fighter, that it really brings some luster into the division after his win over Wright. 175 Champions - Pascal, Campillo, Erdei, Cloud Other notables - Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson, Jones, Tarver My thoughts - This is obviously not the worst division, but... the list of champions is as dismal as any I've ever seen. Cloud doesn't impress me. Pascal isn't very good either (he got rocked repeatedly by a journeyman on FNF and lost to Froch FFS). Erdei is a waste of talent and Campillo seems terrible. Hopkins and Dawson make this a decent division at worst. Johnson, Jones and Tarver sweeten it a bit more on top of that. On your list, 175. Only because the notables are more interesting than the champions. How did this happen? And the lineal is Erdei. :ugh1:

ya this poll means little to me without mention if hw and cruiser ehich are pretty barren as well ... ya the klits are good but look at the rest of the top 10. from ur list i would have to go with 160 ... its as barren as can be. Cruiser isn't too bad. Adamek and Cunningham alone are better than a couple of the division on the list, just like Klitschko and Klitschko do the same thing for heavyweight.

ya this poll means little to me without mention if hw and cruiser ehich are pretty barren as well ... ya the klits are good but look at the rest of the top 10. from ur list i would have to go with 160 ... its as barren as can be.

you forgot to add HW... its absolute garbage. Klitschko and Klitschko are better than the majority of today's fighters IMO. Believe me bro, I'm a huge JT fan, so I know all about it. He's sort of an over-achiever, when you look at his over all skill set. But the guy has an incredible set of intangiables that make up for it. I guess... I really do think he's going winless in the SMW tournament unless he rematches Taylor (and I'd probably even pick Taylor to win that one).

I generally try to be as neutral as possible on things, but... I just cannot, for the life of me, understand why people think Froch is good. Someone said he looks like he is fighting in slow motion while you are high... it was a good description IMO. I just don't know why he fights in a boxer puncher style... Believe me bro, I'm a huge JT fan, so I know all about it. He's sort of an over-achiever, when you look at his over all skill set. But the guy has an incredible set of intangiables that make up for it.

Disclaimer: I know nothing about the division under 122, so I can't comment on them. 126 Champions - John, Luevano, Cruz, Rojas Other notables - Gamboa, Vazquez, Marquez My thoughts - John hasn't shown any class against Juarez in my opinion. Luevano got knocked out by Honorio, but looks pretty okay at this point. The draw with Santiago is a bit alarming. Cruz is awful, end of story. Rojas seems to have some potential. Gamboa is a very good prospect, but there is a danger that he gets clipped by someone who can tame his wild style. Vazquez and Marquez are past their best days. 130 Champions - Soto, Guerrero, Martinez, Linares Other notables - ... none really My thoughts - Linares alone probably makes this division better than 126. Guerrero and Soto are pretty good too, but... outside of the champions, this division is AWFUL. 160 Champions - Pavlik, Sturm, Sylvester Other notables - Williams My thoughts - Pavlik is a very good fighter, but has refused to fight anyone in his title defenses. Thank god he is fighting Williams next. Sturm is not overly good. A questionable decision against Gevor and being knocked out by Castillejo is not a good sign of his ability. Sylvester is terrible. Williams alone probably keeps this division off the bottom of the list. He's such a versatile fighter, that it really brings some luster into the division after his win over Wright. 175 Champions - Pascal, Campillo, Erdei, Cloud Other notables - Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson, Jones, Tarver My thoughts - This is obviously not the worst division, but... the list of champions is as dismal as any I've ever seen. Cloud doesn't impress me. Pascal isn't very good either (he got rocked repeatedly by a journeyman on FNF and lost to Froch FFS). Erdei is a waste of talent and Campillo seems terrible. Hopkins and Dawson make this a decent division at worst. Johnson, Jones and Tarver sweeten it a bit more on top of that. you forgot to add HW... its absolute garbage.

I hope that doesn't come back to backfire on you. :lol1: But based on what you've got there, I'd say 130. I generally try to be as neutral as possible on things, but... I just cannot, for the life of me, understand why people think Froch is good. Someone said he looks like he is fighting in slow motion while you are high... it was a good description IMO. I just don't know why he fights in a boxer puncher style...

Disclaimer: I know nothing about the division under 122, so I can't comment on them. 126 Champions - John, Luevano, Cruz, Rojas Other notables - Gamboa, Vazquez, Marquez My thoughts - John hasn't shown any class against Juarez in my opinion. Luevano got knocked out by Honorio, but looks pretty okay at this point. The draw with Santiago is a bit alarming. Cruz is awful, end of story. Rojas seems to have some potential. Gamboa is a very good prospect, but there is a danger that he gets clipped by someone who can tame his wild style. Vazquez and Marquez are past their best days. 130 Champions - Soto, Guerrero, Martinez, Linares Other notables - ... none really My thoughts - Linares alone probably makes this division better than 126. Guerrero and Soto are pretty good too, but... outside of the champions, this division is AWFUL. 160 Champions - Pavlik, Sturm, Sylvester Other notables - Williams My thoughts - Pavlik is a very good fighter, but has refused to fight anyone in his title defenses. Thank god he is fighting Williams next. Sturm is not overly good. A questionable decision against Gevor and being knocked out by Castillejo is not a good sign of his ability. Sylvester is terrible. Williams alone probably keeps this division off the bottom of the list. He's such a versatile fighter, that it really brings some luster into the division after his win over Wright. 175 Champions - Pascal, Campillo, Erdei, Cloud Other notables - Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson, Jones, Tarver My thoughts - This is obviously not the worst division, but... the list of champions is as dismal as any I've ever seen. Cloud doesn't impress me. Pascal isn't very good either (he got rocked repeatedly by a journeyman on FNF and lost to Froch FFS). Erdei is a waste of talent and Campillo seems terrible. Hopkins and Dawson make this a decent division at worst. Johnson, Jones and Tarver sweeten it a bit more on top of that. I hope that doesn't come back to backfire on you. :lol1: But based on what you've got there, I'd say 130.