Doesn't mean anything. Just that NSB has for the most part reasonable posters and alot of people that don't like Floyd. The problem some people had with his tuneup fight was that they were marketing it as #1. When in reality it was as you said a warm up fight. Most boxing fans knew thats what it was as the poll shows. So as you also said lets see what happens next.
I didn't mean to say that I personally thought of it as a warm-up fight. Seeing that Marquez was #2 in the World.. I thought that sorta meant something. I guess not if you're biased!
My point was, even if it WAS a "tune-up", why is Floyd held to different standards than any other boxer... many many many great and ungreat boxers have taken tune-up fights, and were not so strongly criticized for it. Floyd didn't fight in 21 months, then picks the #2 Pound for Pound Fighter.. what could he have done to please you? If he had fought Arreola, and won, people would still complain.
And respectfully I ask you, 'so that means what'? The people who vote can agree or disagree with whatever they want.
If any other boxer took a "warm up" fight- they wouldn't be criticized. If any other boxer took a low-risk fighter (if you could call the former P4P #2 Marquez THAT) after their first fight in nearly 2 Years, they would NOT be criticized. This is a fact, not an opinion- it's been established that the same rules don't apply to Mayweather. For whatever reasons.
My point being, the fight was less than a week ago. Can we not be slightly patient and see what the next announced fight will be? "he needs to fight this guy! he needs to fight this weight!" Lets see what the next announcement is.
Doesn't mean anything. Just that NSB has for the most part reasonable posters and alot of people that don't like Floyd. The problem some people had with his tuneup fight was that they were marketing it as #1. When in reality it was as you said a warm up fight. Most boxing fans knew thats what it was as the poll shows. So as you also said lets see what happens next.
I don't think its as black and white as I love Floyd or I hate Floyd. I think Floyd is one of the best of his era. The problem I have with him is that he needs to fight a WW, and so far the people who voted agree.
And respectfully I ask you, 'so that means what'? The people who vote can agree or disagree with whatever they want.
If any other boxer took a "warm up" fight- they wouldn't be criticized. If any other boxer took a low-risk fighter (if you could call the former P4P #2 Marquez THAT) after their first fight in nearly 2 Years, they would NOT be criticized. This is a fact, not an opinion- it's been established that the same rules don't apply to Mayweather. For whatever reasons.
My point being, the fight was less than a week ago. Can we not be slightly patient and see what the next announced fight will be? "he needs to fight this guy! he needs to fight this weight!" Lets see what the next announcement is.
I'm not speaking against your poll, SRcrit- I agree with you, I enjoy discussions about boxing, obviously. My point was more that, there will never be any compromise or mutual respect between the 'for' and 'against' Mayweather camps. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: not too many boxers ever prompted so many people who hated him to keep buying his fights, and taking the time to complain about every single thing he does.
I don't think its as black and white as I love Floyd or I hate Floyd. I think Floyd is one of the best of his era. The problem I have with him is that he needs to fight a WW, and so far the people who voted agree.
nah. floyd would not get this much shiit if he fought real fights.... ok, floyd got his tune up... now its time to get serious and fight mosley.
by which persons standards is this "real fight"? how good would you have done against Marquez, brother? it's almost as if Floyd is to blame for his opposition not being as good as him. even if people want Floyd to fight Mosley, forget about hope- in their heads, do they really think Floyd would be defeated? they might want him too- but if their lives were on the line to speak honestly, do they think he'd lose?
Point taken. But then why discuss it if opinions don't matter, obviously people are interested in what the next person has to say. I was just curious on which way the forum is leaning.
I'm not speaking against your poll, SRcrit- I agree with you, I enjoy discussions about boxing, obviously. My point was more that, there will never be any compromise or mutual respect between the 'for' and 'against' Mayweather camps. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: not too many boxers ever prompted so many people who hated him to keep buying his fights, and taking the time to complain about every single thing he does.
people's minds are already made up- if you were against Mayweather, you got all the proof you needed to stay that way. if you were for him, you got all the evidence of why hes great. it will never change!
nah. floyd would not get this much shiit if he fought real fights.... ok, floyd got his tune up... now its time to get serious and fight mosley.
Im not a Floyd hater..
But, i wasnt that impressed..
No combinations in fear of getting countered.. not vintage floyd..
was sort of like a good sparring session to be honest..
does the general opinion even matter? either you appreciated it or you did not. either you're a fan or you're not. you like Floyd, or you like Juan. or maybe, you like both. My own opinion is that I feel very good about it. I still am a Marquez fan, and he proved he is a true boxer, a true warrior, and retains the immense respect he is given. I think PBF proved he is the best, he still has the skills, and to me, I was excited all evening.
people's minds are already made up- if you were against Mayweather, you got all the proof you needed to stay that way. if you were for him, you got all the evidence of why hes great. it will never change!
mayweather's offense defense did impress many. but you have to weigh in the advantages. then your logic comes into play. people who like him won't put his advantages he had in play. if you are biased you don't care you don't like him. if your in the middle. you were impressed as well as understood his advantages over his smaller opponent.
**i was impressed but did understand he had way too many advantages and this wouldn't be the same pace/fight if he would have fought someone like mosley, cotto or PAC.
so many haters against floyd. you gotta be stupid if u dont see that hes the most skilled fighter out. although i agree that hes got more work to do i.e. pac, mosley, but you honestly see him losing?? mosley would have the biggest chance of winning but thats just based on mosley bein strong not because hes a more skillful fighter. give respect where respect due.
I think it was a good tune-up for Floyd, he got to go twelve rounds against a great smaller fighter. It was good to see his speed and timing is still there and that the layoff didn't hurt him. He can't be expected to take on someone like Cotto or Mosley for his first fight after nearly two years away from the ring. I tought it would be more competetive but i guess i listned to much to the GBP hype. Now i look forward to Mayweather hopefully fighting Mosley or Cotto.
I agree with pretty much everything you said, except he should have taken on any WW, then I don't think he would be getting shit on so much. Especially if he is going to weigh in as a WW.
does the general opinion even matter? either you appreciated it or you did not. either you're a fan or you're not. you like Floyd, or you like Juan. or maybe, you like both. My own opinion is that I feel very good about it. I still am a Marquez fan, and he proved he is a true boxer, a true warrior, and retains the immense respect he is given. I think PBF proved he is the best, he still has the skills, and to me, I was excited all evening.
people's minds are already made up- if you were against Mayweather, you got all the proof you needed to stay that way. if you were for him, you got all the evidence of why hes great. it will never change!
Point taken. But then why discuss it if opinions don't matter, obviously people are interested in what the next person has to say. I was just curious on which way the forum is leaning.
I think it was a good tune-up for Floyd, he got to go twelve rounds against a great smaller fighter. It was good to see his speed and timing is still there and that the layoff didn't hurt him. He can't be expected to take on someone like Cotto or Mosley for his first fight after nearly two years away from the ring. I tought it would be more competetive but i guess i listned to much to the GBP hype. Now i look forward to Mayweather hopefully fighting Mosley or Cotto.
does the general opinion even matter? either you appreciated it or you did not. either you're a fan or you're not. you like Floyd, or you like Juan. or maybe, you like both. My own opinion is that I feel very good about it. I still am a Marquez fan, and he proved he is a true boxer, a true warrior, and retains the immense respect he is given. I think PBF proved he is the best, he still has the skills, and to me, I was excited all evening.
people's minds are already made up- if you were against Mayweather, you got all the proof you needed to stay that way. if you were for him, you got all the evidence of why hes great. it will never change!