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Ok, someone explain this to me.
Previously the top 5 was:
Pac
JMM
B-Hop
Shane
Vasquez
NOW it is this:
Pac
Mayweather
Shane
B-Hop
JMM
Can someone explain to me how Shane Mosley has got in front of B-Hop without having even fought a fight?!
The Ring are just trying to hype this Mayweather-Mosley fight, their ratings are flawed.
How convenient for Mosley to move up when they want a Mayweather fight.
I agree that is why they did it. But not only Mosley should move up, he should be ranked over Mayweather anyway. I agree Golden Boy has an agenda, but Mosley's destruction over Antonio Margarito was more impressive than Mayweather beating JMM after holding the Welterweight division hostage and going into retirement. Shane was eventually going to fight Clottey, but HBO fucked that up.
It's mad Shane's so high really. He's jumped absolute leaps and bounds based on one win.
He was being over looked and Marg really was over rated as well, so it was an over rated win.
When you consider Cotto only has one loss on his record, has just beaten Clottey and beat Shane in the past, it's a little crazy to see Margacheato having such adverse effects on they're p4p ratings.
I'm ok with Mayweather at 2, and Hopkins hasn't fought in a long time. But that was the case a couple of months ago, it's simply too coincidental for that to change at the same time Shane's looking to really fight Floyd.
Very disapointing of Ring however you look at it. What's our best hope now for the least corrupt org, the IBO? Jeez...
You're calling Margarito overrated and praising Cotto and his victory over Clottey at the same time, but fail to mention that Cotto didn't even beat Clottey as convincingly as Margarito did, whether he loaded his gloves or not. Another thing too, I think it is bullshit for Cotto to get an automatic top three spot for beating Pacquiao and having him ranked over Paul Williams if Williams happens to beat Pavlik impressively.
how the f*uk is mayweather ranked #2 welterweight if he hasnt beat one welterweight in his last three fights :smh:
sounds to me GBP is doing everything they can to get mayweather/mosley
I don't know if Golden Boy had anything to do with the rankings because the last issue of the Ring Mag the shane mosley interview, they press him pretty hard about the whole balco/steroid issue. Seems to me if it were Golden Boy influenced they wouldn't even ask tough questions like that.
Maybe they wanted that interview so Shane had a chance to shed light on the incident and clear his name
It's mad Shane's so high really. He's jumped absolute leaps and bounds based on one win.
He was being over looked and Marg really was over rated as well, so it was an over rated win.
When you consider Cotto only has one loss on his record, has just beaten Clottey and beat Shane in the past, it's a little crazy to see Margacheato having such adverse effects on they're p4p ratings.
I'm ok with Mayweather at 2, and Hopkins hasn't fought in a long time. But that was the case a couple of months ago, it's simply too coincidental for that to change at the same time Shane's looking to really fight Floyd.
Very disapointing of Ring however you look at it. What's our best hope now for the least corrupt org, the IBO? Jeez...
Disagreed.
Mayweather was the undisputed best in the world p4p when he left the sport less than two years ago.
He has come back and, albeit against a smaller opponent, posted a dominant performance over a top p4p-rated fighter. Say what you want, but that was incredibly impressive the other night.
Manny still belongs at number 1 because of his incredible body of work in recent times, but there is no doubt in my mind that Mayweather belongs at number 2 and I don't think it will be too long before he reclaims his spot as the p4p king. He is just the best out there. Its just the way it is.
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From beating Old winky and erm? going life and death with margs which was 2-3 years ago GTFO here lol Williams=Overated Cunt
He got no real business being in the top 10 let alone 5
I'll have to eat crow if Pavlik beats him, but isn't that the definition of P4P? Moving up in weight and winning fights convincingly. Cotto and Mayweather are fighting smaller guys now. That needs to be taken into consideration. Of course Cotto is in the top ten at the moment, and doesn't deserve to be. I was more impressed with Paul's win over Winky than Cotto's narrow win over Clottey.
How does Mayweather jump in front of Cotto in the WW rankings? He beats a blown up LW and he goes to two? Cotto has beaten Mosley, Clottey, Quintana, Gomez, Jennings, Urkal, and Judah at WW. Mayweather has beaten Shamba Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, and Marquez. Mayweather's overall resume is better than Cotto's, but not at WW IMO.
Cotto >>>>>>> Floyd @ WW ( better resume )
Floyd >>>>>>> Cotto P4P ( due to the weight jumping, overall career dominance )
I completely agree with your opinion, its to hype up Mayweather - Mosley
How does Mayweather jump in front of Cotto in the WW rankings? He beats a blown up LW and he goes to two?
:dunno:
The list is pretty ****ed up.
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What's ridiculous is that Shane is even in the top 5. Here's a guy that really only has 1 good win in the last few years, yet somehow he's the number 3 fighter in the world.
Mosley took his spot from Margarito who took it from Cotto.
How does Mayweather jump in front of Cotto in the WW rankings? He beats a blown up LW and he goes to two? Cotto has beaten Mosley, Clottey, Quintana, Gomez, Jennings, Urkal, and Judah at WW. Mayweather has beaten Shamba Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, and Marquez. Mayweather's overall resume is better than Cotto's, but not at WW IMO.
What's ridiculous is that Shane is even in the top 5. Here's a guy that really only has 1 good win in the last few years, yet somehow he's the number 3 fighter in the world.
Should Vasquez and Marquez be on there too? I love both guys but they are highly inactive.
yeah I found that questionable
the trilogy was awesome, but these 2 have been on the Pound for Pound list quite some time.
That was in January. They waited all this time until Mayweather came back and got into a supposed (but looked like was set up) scuffle with Mosley. Don't you think it's a bit of a coincidence.
It's all set up imo. The scuffle, the ratings and Mayweather/Mosley probably already have an agreement to fight. They are both in it together to hype it all along with the rest of the GBP party. I don't believe this is all genuine.
I do think they all are in on it especially if Oscar helped Floyd out, Floyd has beef with Arum it would be stupid for Golden Boy to let Floyd squash that since Golden Boy has been the one promoting Mayweather in all his huge fights.
I don't know if the ring rankings are in on it though maybe they just really looked at it now that they had to figure out how to place Floyd and figured Shane is atleast trying to fight so he should get the edge.
Well I've noticed the Ring doing the Pound for Pound spot swapping ever since Cotto was top 5 Pound for pound
Cotto lost his #5 spot to Margarito .. who lost it to Mosley.
So using that spot swapping logic, why wouldn't Mayweather take over JMM's spot after beating him
it might not be the most concrete logic to use, but its been done before