I guess it depends, if Floyd manages to make it a boring fight pot shot/run tyep of fight, he outpoints Shane, if Shane can ping him against the ropes, Shane wins it.
Well this is all speculation, the hardest part of all this is to get Mayweather to actually agree to fight one of these guys!
Mayweather can retire and get full credit from me as long as he faces the winner of Pac/Cotto and Mosley in his next 2 fights.
You'll never see him fight Mosley. He simply won't sign that fight. Presents an actual risk, and Floyd isn't willing to accept that possibility.
Well this is all speculation, the hardest part of all this is to get Mayweather to actually agree to fight one of these guys!
Mayweather can retire and get full credit from me as long as he faces the winner of Pac/Cotto and Mosley in his next 2 fights.
Body punching would definatley help Mosley against Floyd. True, the guys before were less powerful and smaller. I'd like to see him try, it's not like there's anyone else who can beat Floyd (apart from Pac) just in my opinion i don't think he can KO Mayweather, which means he has to impress the judges and win a decision, and against Mayweather, that is a tall order. I don't know if he can keep his concentration up for 12 rounds.
Pacman won't stand much of a chance against Floyd, either. Too small. He'd have a better chance than JMM, but that's not saying much. I gave JMM a 1 in 200 chance, and Manny about a 1 in 50. Yes, that's 4x better chance than JMM, but still not much of a chance.
Body punching would definatley help Mosley against Floyd. True, the guys before were less powerful and smaller. I'd like to see him try, it's not like there's anyone else who can beat Floyd (apart from Pac) just in my opinion i don't think he can KO Mayweather, which means he has to impress the judges and win a decision, and against Mayweather, that is a tall order. I don't know if he can keep his concentration up for 12 rounds.
True, different styles, different fights i agree with that.
But i've seen Mayweather get hit flush with big punches before (hell even Marquez got him with a big one whilst he was on the ropes) and it didn't phase him. His defence and reflexes just looks too good for the more winging power punches of Mosley.
The only way to beat Mayweather is by pummeling him on the ropes, nobody will outbox him in the center of the ring. I don't see why fighters don't realise this, Castillo laid out a good blueprint on how to go about beating Mayweather. But alas, nobody seems to be able to do it.
I'd probably give Mosley a better chance if he were a few years younger.
Big, flush shots from who? I bet Mosley is a bigger puncher than any of them and quite possibly better skilled.
Mosley does have a tendency to wing his right hand but he is also capable of being subtle with his shots, throwing 2, 3 or even 4 pitter pat shots to get his opponents to open up a little and then he'd throw a big shot at the end of the sequence.
I disagree, I don't think that's the only way to beat Mayweather. Of course you have to trap him on the ropes once in a while but you can't just go in there and 'pummel' him, it would leave you open to counter shots all night. Jesus Chavez tried to do it to him and he ate uppercuts all night. Plus Mayweather learned a lot about in fighting against Castillo, trust me, fighters have tried to do what Castillo did to him but they've failed because Mayweather has improved.
The way to beat Mayweather is make him uncomfortable, don't let him set the pace and don't let him get off first, apply educated pressure in spots and make him come to you in spots, you need a little bit of everything against Mayweather.
Mosley has the ability to do all of this, he's just as fast as Mayweather which would allow him to maybe get off first if he's able to, he knows how to apply pressure and cut off the ring to make Mayweather uncomfortable. He also knows how to push the pace, to make Mayweather fight at a higher volume that he wants to.
And Mosley has an underrated jab, I've been saying this for a while. The guy's jab is not the best but he has one and can use one. If Mosley is able to use his jab against Mayweather, it would help him out a lot.
Mosley also has the size to get to Mayweather, Mayweather won't be able to lean back and away from punches like he did against smaller, shorter men like Marquez and Hatton, and the size would allow Mosley to get inside and not got pushed around like Marquez and Hatton.
Mosley has also seemed to rededicate himself to his body attack, which was noticeably absent in a few of his fights prior to hooking up with Richardson.
Now all of this doesn't mean I think Mosley will win but this won't be a blowout or one sided as some people think it would be, Mosley isn't at his best anymore, I realize that but he has enough left in the tank to make this a fight, and a close one at that.
Floyd would run around the ring too much for Mosley to be able to KO him in my opinion. Only way i see that happening is if Mosley corners him somehow and just goes for broke.
Mosley's best chance is if he went straight out from the opening bell and just gave him everything he has trying to KO him early on. But you know he won't, you know he will try and box Mayweather for the first 6 rounds or so. Then he will need a knock out due to Floyd winning probably most of the rounds, and when it comes down to when he has to knock him out, he will be too tired and Mayweather wins a decision.
Mayweather by WIDDEE Ud. Winning 9 or 10 rounds. What's gonna happen is Mosley's speed will cause May some problems for probably a round or 2. May adjusts, Mosley starts hitting air and gets tagged for swinging wildly.
True, different styles, different fights i agree with that.
But i've seen Mayweather get hit flush with big punches before (hell even Marquez got him with a big one whilst he was on the ropes) and it didn't phase him. His defence and reflexes just looks too good for the more winging power punches of Mosley.
The only way to beat Mayweather is by pummeling him on the ropes, nobody will outbox him in the center of the ring. I don't see why fighters don't realise this, Castillo laid out a good blueprint on how to go about beating Mayweather. But alas, nobody seems to be able to do it.
I'd probably give Mosley a better chance if he were a few years younger.
Corley had him bad hurt. Watch that fight again. Floyd can be hurt, by someone with quick hands who throws combinations and can bang a little. If Corley were any kind of finisher, Floyd might have a mark in his loss column. Mosley, I think, would land his right hand with regularity after the first round or two, and would keep pressuring Floyd non-stop, making him fight or run. Mosley by KO win.
Again, Floyd will never, ever sign with Mosley. Or anyone else where there's any chance of a loss, for that matter.
I'd love to be proven wrong here.
i have mayweather winning a wide ud!!!
i think mosley is still difficult to beat, he has stamina great chin and a thick coat also he still moves around the ring well and throws a lot of punches but is reflexes dont seem to be what they once was
so i can see mayweather pot shotting him and keep him moving!!!!!
i still dont understand how mayorga was up with a 12% connect rate.
u dont be fooled throwing on punch at a time isnt fast.
I don't know, but the judges scored it that way.
Mayweather is real fast, it's one of his main attributes.
Mayweather looks faster than Mosley imo. Don't be fooled by his Margarito win. If Ricardo Mayorga was level/winning on the scorecards before he got KO'ed then Mayweather will have a field day.
i still dont understand how mayorga was up with a 12% connect rate.
u dont be fooled throwing on punch at a time isnt fast.
The type of fight Mayorga fought was a very spoiler-ish fight, 1 or 2 punches then clinch, rough house and repeat. I also don't think Mayorga should've been ahead and/or even going into the 12th, I thought Mosley was winning it clearly. The type of fight that Mayorga fought against Mosley is not the type of fight that Mayweather fights.
Mayorga had like an almost 10 pound weight advantage in the fight as well, that was also before Mosley got together with Richardson and if Mosley is to be believed he fought the fight with foot blisters, blisters are a bitch to walk around with much less fight with, it could've thrown him off.
So I really wouldn't look too much at the Mayorga fight.
True, different styles, different fights i agree with that.
But i've seen Mayweather get hit flush with big punches before (hell even Marquez got him with a big one whilst he was on the ropes) and it didn't phase him. His defence and reflexes just looks too good for the more winging power punches of Mosley.
The only way to beat Mayweather is by pummeling him on the ropes, nobody will outbox him in the center of the ring. I don't see why fighters don't realise this, Castillo laid out a good blueprint on how to go about beating Mayweather. But alas, nobody seems to be able to do it.
I'd probably give Mosley a better chance if he were a few years younger.
It's the best fight to make at the moment and could be 1 of Floyd's "legacy" fights. I'm sorry but beating a lightweight and Ricky Hatton dont mean shit. Your in a stacked welter division so fight the best there. Mosley, Cotto, Marg and even Clottey can all be beaten by Mayweather but will he have the balls to take the fights?
If the fight does happen however, I think Floyd can win by a tight UD. But that depends on his chin and how he can take Mosley's punches. He will get hit in this fight as Mosley is 500% faster than JMM.
Mayweather will never step into a ring with Mosley, at least not until Shane is past it (3 or 4 years from now). Floyd won't sign anything that gives him any chance of a loss, and Mosley would, in my opinion, beat his ass all over the ring. He'll sign a fight with Pacman, collect another big payday, and then retire again (after hiring someone to manage his fortune this time), probably permanently this time. And good ****ing riddance. I want him gone again before he talks Vic Darchinyan into accepting a big "PPV Showstopper" with him.
I'm not sure whether Shane would stick to Naazim's plans at times, if Floyd frustrates him a bit I see Shane becoming too emotionally charged because he seems way too desperate for Pac or Floyd to be completely rational. Shane has as good a chance as any though. Would be good to see how quick he looks in a ring compared to Floyd though.
Mayweather looks faster than Mosley imo. Don't be fooled by his Margarito win. If Ricardo Mayorga was level/winning on the scorecards before he got KO'ed then Mayweather will have a field day.
The type of fight Mayorga fought was a very spoiler-ish fight, 1 or 2 punches then clinch, rough house and repeat. I also don't think Mayorga should've been ahead and/or even going into the 12th, I thought Mosley was winning it clearly. The type of fight that Mayorga fought against Mosley is not the type of fight that Mayweather fights.
Mayorga had like an almost 10 pound weight advantage in the fight as well, that was also before Mosley got together with Richardson and if Mosley is to be believed he fought the fight with foot blisters, blisters are a bitch to walk around with much less fight with, it could've thrown him off.
So I really wouldn't look too much at the Mayorga fight.
Even though Mayweather looked as good as he's ever looked against Marquez, I thought he got hit by some punches he might not have gotten hit with 2 years ago but that could be attributed to the ring rust, you never know though, he might have slowed down just a bit. This is one of the toughest fights that can happen for Mayweather, Mosley is bigger, just as fast and more powerful, plus he now has Naazim Richardson in his corner, he won't just try to powerbox his way to victory, that powerboxing thing made him quite easy to figure out by the top guys in the sport, with Richardson in his corner he should have a plan A, B, C and D.
It's a tough fight to pick IMO, close fight.
Mayweather looks faster than Mosley imo. Don't be fooled by his Margarito win. If Ricardo Mayorga was level/winning on the scorecards before he got KO'ed then Mayweather will have a field day.
Floyd would lead on points until he gets tagged by Mosley good, then I don't know- Floyd has never been hit by someone like that.
floyd has a good chin though. even though he dominated he took one or two flush shots from corrales, and he took DLHs left hook. mosley can hurt him no doubt, but its not like floyd never seen anything like this before. hes used to sparring guys twice his size too.
mosley will have some success early, but floyd is too smart for him imo. mosley cant handle someone with a really good jab. we saw it against winky, forrest and the second DLH fight. floyd has one of the best jabs in the sport even though he usually doesnt use it much.
floyd by UD, shane gives him the fight of his life though.