Is pacquiao really an atg or #4# fighter

ATG for sure, people just look for ways to discredit him.

I thought Ledwaba on 10 days notice was a pretty ATG accomplishment.

Pac's collection of belts, WBC, IBF, and Ring. Lets add the IBO also. Cotto has a collection of WBO.

Pacquiao has captured six world titles in different weight classes: The lower weights fought a bunch of nobodys At 125 lbs he got a draw Marquez At 130 lbs he fought Maquez again which in many peoples eyes he lost that one. At 135 lbs he beats up David Diaz a guy who just doesn't have skills and vacates it. At 140 lbs moves up after beating Diaz and fights Hatton beats Hatton. Now his moving up again to fight Cotto at 145 lbs to go for his 7 world title. My question to this is. Is Manny Really all that great when he has fought alot of guys that aren't that skill. The only good fighters his fought is Morales, Barrera, Marquez and DHL which he fought at the end of his career. He really has not defended his world titles like a real champion does and yet people in here say his ATG which his not. You can't be called ATG or #4# when you beat fighters like Diaz and Hatton. What do you think? Is he an ATG #4# or not? The guy didn't even know who Pac beat at 112 for the Lineal World Champ. And the no.2 rated at 122 Lebwaba for the IBF World Champ. These guys ain't nobodies at the time Pac fought them.

you mean like how cotto fights for vacant belts? That's what I was saying. :dunno: 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

you mean like how cotto fights for vacant belts? The TS will reply "Cotto defense the belt against the best fighters" or something like that.

Yeah but how can you be called a champ when you move up in weight class and pick the weakest out of the champions when you could it fought the top dog in the division. you mean like how cotto fights for vacant belts?

he is an atg, people will be talking about him for years when he is gone Specially the haters saying his overrated.

he is an atg, people will be talking about him for years when he is gone

Cotto fought a vacant title, but has defense it against top fighters. But he only defended it once against Clottey and that was a close fight which many people think he didn't deserve to win. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

I love how he's totally abandoned his own thread. LOL I'm here i'm just reading other threads.

Is that worse than beating up Michael Jennings and grabbing a vacant WBO belt? Cotto fought a vacant title, but has defense it against top fighters.

I love how he's totally abandoned his own thread. LOL

Yeah but how can you be called a champ when you move up in weight class and pick the weakest out of the champions when you could it fought the top dog in the division. Is that worse than beating up Michael Jennings and grabbing a vacant WBO belt? 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Yeah but how can you be called a champ when you move up in weight class and pick the weakest out of the champions when you could it fought the top dog in the division Pac will be fighting Cotto in November, hope you won't be saying this same shit if ever Pac beats Cotto, and say "why fought Miguel Cotto when you could have fought Paul Williams?"

At 125 lbs he got a draw Marquez Only because of the stupid judge's mistake. He scored the first round 10-7. What a moron. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

But fights the best to defend his title. LOL, it does not matter if it just a fight or a title fight, Pac fought the best too.

Yes i do, but what saying is David Diaz wasn't one and Hatton is overrated. Marquez beat him and he got a decision that it should of went to Marquez. Hatton is overrated now that Pac is facing Cotto. Pac made quick work of Hatton. As far as JMM fight, like most media and fans say that it was a closed fight that could have gone either way. You might have scored it for JMM but he didn't clearly beat him.

At least Pac beat the champions who beat the champions for the ABC/Ring belts. You can't say that for Cotto, he beat nobodies for the vacant WBO. But fights the best to defend his title.

Yes i do, but what saying is David Diaz wasn't one and Hatton is overrated. Marquez beat him and he got a decision that it should of went to Marquez. and Barrera beat Marquez and won the belt through a decision that should have went to Barrera. What's your point??? A win is a win unless it's outright robbery like Casamayor Santa Cruz or Malignaggi Diaz