I am tired of Marquez and FLoyd Bitchin all the time about how Marquez Beat Pacquiao both times and how Marquez feels he Beat Pacquiao and blah blah blah. This was my scorecard
ROUNDS PAC/MAR
1 10/6
2 10/9
3 9/10
4 9/10
5 9/10
6 9/10
7 10/9
8 9/10
9 10/9
10 10/9
11&12 9/10
SCORE 113-112 FOR PACQUIAO
OVERALL
it was a close fight but Pacquiao won by Points. Marquez did outbox Pacquiao the middle rounds and won the last 2 rounds which had him winning 7 out of 12 rounds. So to me he did win the majority of the rounds. But the 3 KD's in the first round to me made him lose the fight by Points. ROunds 3 and i believe it was 11 were toss up rounds. But i edged Marquez but i could easily give those rounds to Pacquiao to.
So basically Marquez won the battle of rounds, but Pacquiao won the Won on points. I hate when people say Marquez took the fight hands down when it was a CLOSE fight. He was out boxing Pacquiao the middle rounds but Pacquiao found a way to land his left in some of the later rounds.
A classic fight.
So do you agree with my scorecard???
ya he is just tryna hype Marquez up more. I remember a couple years back when Mayweather was saying the Pacquiao was the truth. But i hate when Fans come on here and Say Marquez CLEARLY won the both fights when it seems they dont use the KD's on their scorecards. in the first fight their is no way Marquez won more then 7 rounds. and I had the 2nd fight 6 rounds each with the KD being the difference.
Floyd interview 3 years ago:
on the marqez brothers...""Both of the Marquez brothers (Rafael & Juan Manuel), they're both good boxers, but one -- is it the older one? -- he's the truth. The truth. Total package. He probably right behind me as the best fighter pound-for-pound"
I guess at this point now it doesn't really matter who won the fights, but what matters is that Marquez is capable of beating Pacquiao. Marquez could win the trilogy bout with Pacquiao and it won't settle anything.
The only thing some fans want people to recognize is that Marquez is just as good as pacquiao or was, cause Marquez is much older now.
He might not be able to beat bigger guys now like Pacquiao has, because of his age, but at 130 he was just as good as Pacquiao in a different kind of way.IMO
I had Pacquiao winning both. Floyd seems to have changed his stance on this anyway. Originally he said something like "How can a guy get knocked down three times and then end up winning?".
But now he's saying Marquez beat Manny twice? If he's really saying that, he's probably trying to make Marquez look better and to make the public think he's fighting a more dangerous opponent.
BTW, Floyd has always been a Pacquiao fan. If he ever says anything negative about Manny, I wouldn't believe a word.
"How can a guy get knocked down three times and then end up winning?" he said that in an astonished way, like saying how great marquez is.
ya he is just tryna hype Marquez up more. I remember a couple years back when Mayweather was saying the Pacquiao was the truth. But i hate when Fans come on here and Say Marquez CLEARLY won the both fights when it seems they dont use the KD's on their scorecards. in the first fight their is no way Marquez won more then 7 rounds. and I had the 2nd fight 6 rounds each with the KD being the difference.
Ahhh yeah, that's it -- I remember him saying Manny was "the truth".
And I agree, the Marquez/Pacquiao arguments are pretty stupid. Nothing was clear about those fights, they were very close, especially the second one. I give major props to Marquez for dealing with that first round of the first fight and coming back to make it such a close fight but there was just no way he should have won when he had to peel his ass off the canvas so many times.
The second fight could have gone either way and I probably wouldn't have complained, but I am not convinced Marquez did quite enough to win, he just fell slightly short, IMO.
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... and that's the reason not anyone is a judge, and you aren't either. XD
lol i wish.. i'd let Don King or Golden boy buy me out ANYDAY for the right Price =]
I just watched the fight for the first time the other day (yeah, I know...what rock have I've been living under!...) And I scored it 114-111 Pac-man.
round by round
Pac / Marquez
10 6
10 9
10 9
9 10
9 10
9 10
9 10
9 10
10 9
10 9
9 10
9 10
I may have missed a few things (i've only watched it once) but felt Marquez took most of the rounds, but he couldn't get out from under the three knockdowns in round 1.
yapp.. But Marquez showed damn Heart for coming back.
I am tired of Marquez and FLoyd Bitchin all the time about how Marquez Beat Pacquiao both times and how Marquez feels he Beat Pacquiao and blah blah blah. This was my scorecard
ROUNDS PAC/MAR
1 10/6
2 10/9
3 9/10
4 9/10
5 9/10
6 9/10
7 10/9
8 9/10
9 10/9
10 10/9
11&12 9/10
SCORE 113-112 FOR PACQUIAO
OVERALL
it was a close fight but Pacquiao won by Points. Marquez did outbox Pacquiao the middle rounds and won the last 2 rounds which had him winning 7 out of 12 rounds. So to me he did win the majority of the rounds. But the 3 KD's in the first round to me made him lose the fight by Points. ROunds 3 and i believe it was 11 were toss up rounds. But i edged Marquez but i could easily give those rounds to Pacquiao to.
So basically Marquez won the battle of rounds, but Pacquiao won the Won on points. I hate when people say Marquez took the fight hands down when it was a CLOSE fight. He was out boxing Pacquiao the middle rounds but Pacquiao found a way to land his left in some of the later rounds.
A classic fight.
So do you agree with my scorecard???
it don't matter what anyone says but the judges... and one judge admitted to a scoring error that would've gave pac the fight.
Harold Lederaman scored both fighs with pacman winning..
this is not a biased nobody here in NSB..this is harold lederman
lmao lederman has scored a lot of bullshit decisions
I just watched the fight for the first time the other day (yeah, I know...what rock have I've been living under!...) And I scored it 114-111 Pac-man.
round by round
Pac / Marquez
10 6
10 9
10 9
9 10
9 10
9 10
9 10
9 10
10 9
10 9
9 10
9 10
I may have missed a few things (i've only watched it once) but felt Marquez took most of the rounds, but he couldn't get out from under the three knockdowns in round 1.
Pac won both fights, and this is a Cartel member sayin that. Yea, without the KD's he woulda lost, but he got the KD's, so he won. This shit is old.
yea it is old, but Floyd's resume OVERRATEDness is old(which is) but it still gets brought up everyday.
I had Pacquiao winning both. Floyd seems to have changed his stance on this anyway. Originally he said something like "How can a guy get knocked down three times and then end up winning?".
But now he's saying Marquez beat Manny twice? If he's really saying that, he's probably trying to make Marquez look better and to make the public think he's fighting a more dangerous opponent.
BTW, Floyd has always been a Pacquiao fan. If he ever says anything negative about Manny, I wouldn't believe a word.
ya he is just tryna hype Marquez up more. I remember a couple years back when Mayweather was saying the Pacquiao was the truth. But i hate when Fans come on here and Say Marquez CLEARLY won the both fights when it seems they dont use the KD's on their scorecards. in the first fight their is no way Marquez won more then 7 rounds. and I had the 2nd fight 6 rounds each with the KD being the difference.
I am tired of Marquez and FLoyd Bitchin all the time about how Marquez Beat Pacquiao both times and how Marquez feels he Beat Pacquiao and blah blah blah.
I had Pacquiao winning both. Floyd seems to have changed his stance on this anyway. Originally he said something like "How can a guy get knocked down three times and then end up winning?".
But now he's saying Marquez beat Manny twice? If he's really saying that, he's probably trying to make Marquez look better and to make the public think he's fighting a more dangerous opponent.
BTW, Floyd has always been a Pacquiao fan. If he ever says anything negative about Manny, I wouldn't believe a word.
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