Posters who state this, mainly blackirish137, who avoided my post like scum in the other thread.
YES there will only be about 4-6lbs on FIGHT NIGHT difference.
BUT Marquez has PUT ON ALOT of weight during training, more than he would normally.
You can't put 68lb's of muscle on Carl Froch and say oh well, come fight night, him and Wladimir will only have 5lbs difference so this is a fair fight and they are the same size.
It's a f.ucking tune-up.
Caus if it ain't labelled as a tune-up, It should be labelled as a f.ucking DISGRACE.
Floyds gonna ko him i can feel it. Theres no point in saying marquez will win if ur gonna complain about the weight. It just shows how u truely hate floyd.
He will it was easier after a lay off to make 144 at this stage , he will fight Pac at 140 you wait and see ,, that is if Pac wants it there .
144 is no sacrifice on pbf's part.
i seriously doubt floyd will fight pac at 140 lbs.
How is it a shame , thats so ridicules when you think Pac vs JMM is a great fight and Pac was nearly beat and many say he was
its shameful because WW are supposed to destroy LWs. berto couldn't beat up urango and I was pissed. yea, he outpointed him, but he really should've beat the shit outta him.
, yet Cotto vs Pac is ok
i am totally against cotto/pac
by you and you dont lash Cotto
you don't read any threads but pbf threads do you?
, then Pac vs Floyd is a good fight
yes
, all stated by you around the board as well as 4 lbs is unfair in Floyds fight but Cottos 16 pounds is ok ,,,,
if floyd is a WW then he should fight WWs. if he wants to fight LWs then he should fight at LW, or atleast have the decency to meet them half way at 140 lbs.
then you come out and say Floyd vs JMM is a shame if he cant KO him ,,,,,,
yes, if floyd don't stop jmm it will be embarrassing for floyd and even floyd knows it.
man on man you are so full of it ,,,
full of knowledge
you need to read what you write because your double standards are off the dial .
i don't have double standards.
You really are a Floyd hater Pull ,,, just a sneaky one .
I'm not a hater, I'm just keeping it real.
Pull.
Seriously. When do you plan on putting a moratorium on that?
as long as there are threads like these it will never end.
He can move down if that was where the big fights are , its easier and more lucrative to fight in the JnrW and WW divisions , its money and big fights why he is there , whats the bet he fights Pac 140 .
then why don't floyd fight lucrative fights at WWs and jr WW? why is he picking on a LW?
Its got nothing in common with Adamek ,,,,,,,
actually it's not a bad analogy
what is Bhop a MW SMW LW or CW ,,,,,
right now he's in the lt HW division
its regard by boxing that Bhops best was at MW ,,,,
hops could've competed at higher weights, he just wanted the record and teh paydays moving up.
what of Roy is he a MW SMW LH CW or HW ,,,
RJJ is a lt HW as of now.
their size doesnt change they had to dry out like prunes to make their lowest weights and then moved up where they didnt dry out and moved up more by bulking up with weight training ,,,,
true, but we don't know how the weight training will effect JMM.... especially because he is already fighting a fast boxer like floyd at 147 lbs. where as hops and rjj fought slower boxers at heavier weights.
thing is Floyd is in the weightclass he doesnt have to dry out , and thats what Pac and JMM are doing ,,,
actually jmm is putting on muscle, that may slow him down which is not good.
Cotto Mosley Williams etc all dry out to make WW because they are bigger men .
true
You need to understand weight and fighters because you dont understand the process of making division weight the day before compared to your fight weight on the night ,,,, if you want to argue size in fighters you need to get it in your head how the system works .
yep, but you also need to understand that putting on muscle and putting on weight makes you slower not faster.
pac and pbf are just freaks who were able to keep their speed, but we don't know if that will be the case with JMM.
He can move down if that was where the big fights are , its easier and more lucrative to fight in the JnrW and WW divisions , its money and big fights why he is there , whats the bet he fights Pac 140 .
Its got nothing in common with Adamek ,,,,,,, what is Bhop a MW SMW LW or CW ,,,,, its regard by boxing that Bhops best was at MW ,,,, what of Roy is he a MW SMW LH CW or HW ,,, their size doesnt change they had to dry out like prunes to make their lowest weights and then moved up where they didnt dry out and moved up more by bulking up with weight training ,,,, thing is Floyd is in the weightclass he doesnt have to dry out , and thats what Pac and JMM are doing ,,, Cotto Mosley Williams etc all dry out to make WW because they are bigger men .
You need to understand weight and fighters because you dont understand the process of making division weight the day before compared to your fight weight on the night ,,,, if you want to argue size in fighters you need to get it in your head how the system works .
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I agree, fighters shouldn't have to dry out and shit, but they do, get over it, it happens.
Fighters want to get into the lowest weight division possible where they still feel good.
Don't you think it's unfair to say Mayweather has a "pass" against other Welterweights because he doesn't dry out as much?
If he's picking that division, he should fight the ****ing guys in that division.
cheers to that buddy.
we all may disagree all the time, but in the end, were all boxing fans. all these arguments are just for fun anyway, ha.
Exaclty, haha, I pretty much said the same thing to mangler in a PM.
I would love to have a drink with anyone on this site, even the Klitschko lover Tunney lmao.
We are all in the same boat.
And whats this guy Rod barker blabbing about now, I'll try and sort him out now.
Dont they all need it or would like to get it ,,,, your point is mute
floyd knows he has to win by KO or else he will be put to shame. if he can't KO a dude 2 weight divisions lower, that is shameful.
The biggest difference is has been 7 pounds , JMM 143 Floyd 150 with Hatton , even at 154 division Floyd weighed 148 on the night of the fight , you have no argument on the weight its inside what is considered a fair fight in boxing and thats a fact .
Fighters move up all the time , the point to this is first that Floyd is a little guy that has been fighting bigger guys most of his career he is not a genuine WW any more that Roy is a HW , that doesnt mean that JMM cant move up like so many others have his last 2 KOs actually says he can ,,,,,, the second thing is when Pac does it why dont you lot slam Cotto for being a bitch picking on a little guy ,,, Floyd is more than 1 pound smaller than Cotto and Pac is only 3-4 pounds bigger than JMM yet the weigh-ins are only a pound difference ,,,,, JMM vs Floyd as weight goes is heaps more of a fair fight that what Cotto vs Pac is ,, its the double standard you lot carry that is so wrong , and its always thrown towards Floyd .
if floyd is too small for WW, why don't he move down to jr WW???
hahaha, we are starting to agree at last man.
If Mayweather AND Pacquiao are both dominant.
Then ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE.
Wait for the Mega-Super-Mega-Mega Fight.
cheers to that buddy.
we all may disagree all the time, but in the end, were all boxing fans. all these arguments are just for fun anyway, ha.
Thats more like it. When was the last time we got a match THAT big?
When was the last time a Former "unbeaten" #1 P4P, fought the current #1 P4P.
It's VERY VERY rare that it would happen.
I would be shaking before that first bell rung, EYES WIDE AS F.UCK.
hahaha, we are starting to agree at last man.
If Mayweather AND Pacquiao are both dominant.
Then ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE.
Wait for the Mega-Super-Mega-Mega Fight.
Thats more like it. When was the last time we got a match THAT big?
well, as long as you cant wait for it, Im happy with that.
I dont get whats the problem with it being a superfight. I mean, I aint gonna complain if a fight gets a lot of publicity.
besides, if Mayweather does dominantly KO Marquez, itll only add to the upcoming Pacquiao/Cotto match.
cant say no to that.
and you wont enjoy it if Mayweather KOs Marquez?
thatd be worth seeing, if you ask me.
hahaha, we are starting to agree at last man.
If Mayweather AND Pacquiao are both dominant.
Then ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE.
Wait for the Mega-Super-Mega-Mega Fight.
I can't wait for Mayweather's tune-up before Pacquiao.
I only regard BIG fights as Superfights if there is NO clear winner.
Mayweather is obviously gonna dominate, so any punch Marquez lands I will be jumping outta my seat.
Superfights shouldn't be like that, both fighters should be equal.
well, as long as you cant wait for it, Im happy with that.
I dont get whats the problem with it being a superfight. I mean, I aint gonna complain if a fight gets a lot of publicity.
besides, if Mayweather does dominantly KO Marquez, itll only add to the upcoming Pacquiao/Cotto match.
cant say no to that.
nah man, even floyd said he needed to win by KO. and you wont enjoy it if Mayweather KOs Marquez?
thatd be worth seeing, if you ask me.
LOL , what WW can Floyd fight and its equal when he will give 12 to 16 pounds to all of them ,,,, the fairest fight for Floyd was Hatton who still outweighed him by a couple of pounds on the night .
If they are all too big for him then why doesn't he move down to Light-Welterweight or even Lightweight.
It's like Adamek saying "Right, I'm going up to heavyweight, but I will still fight Cruiserweights, just at Heavyweight instead"
FACE IT NOOB, YOU JUST GOT SERVED BY GREATJOE.
Now leave my thread
lol, right here you gave yourself away.
listen, its not about who wins or who loses or who gets credit for blah blah blah.
just enjoy the fight. when you get two skilled fighters in the ring, its gonna be worth watching, regardless of the size differential...which isnt that much in the first place.
nah man, even floyd said he needed to win by KO.
lol, right here you gave yourself away.
listen, its not about who wins or who loses or who gets credit for blah blah blah.
just enjoy the fight. when you get two skilled fighters in the ring, its gonna be worth watching, regardless of the size differential...which isnt that much in the first place.
I can't wait for Mayweather's tune-up before Pacquiao.
I only regard BIG fights as Superfights if there is NO clear winner.
Mayweather is obviously gonna dominate, so any punch Marquez lands I will be jumping outta my seat.
Superfights shouldn't be like that, both fighters should be equal.
Because Marquez wanted to fight him and is just as good as the other two. Happy?
Paul Williams did it pretty easily. even someone like Guerillimo Jones jumped from 154lbs and is now a Cruiserweight alphabet belt champ. ha not everyone is like him though.
I dont really get how you can say Pacquiao has looked much better, the guy is coming off two of the most dominant big wins of his career lol. maybe he has looked better, but he sure as hell didnt look much worse, which was the whole point.
and you get caught and hurt sometimes, it happens. Calzaghe got dropped hard by a mediocre Kabary Salem, doesnt mean he would get KOed at 175. its just part of boxing. yea, I had to bring up Calzaghe, sorry. it was your screenname that did it.
Sorry, I didn't finish the sentence, I meant Pacquiao has looked BETTER "at the higher weights".
But it doesn't mean Marquez can do the same.
When De la Hoya fought Pacquiao it was a disgrace, but atleast he decided to go down to a weight he hadn't fought at in 9 years, so he wouldn't be at his best, but Mayweather won't even go down to 140, which he should be able to do considering most people here think hatton is a bigger guy than him.
Why didn't Mayweather want to fight him at 140?
Now THAT would be closer to a superfight.
If Mayweather just scrapes by Marquez, then he will become a joke.
lol, right here you gave yourself away.
listen, its not about who wins or who loses or who gets credit for blah blah blah.
just enjoy the fight. when you get two skilled fighters in the ring, its gonna be worth watching, regardless of the size differential...which isnt that much in the first place.
Thats because he is bouncing all around and talking not specifically about the fight he is rubbishing ,,,,,, Floyd will weigh around 147 and all we can go on is JMM recent fights where he has weighed 141-143 on fight night for the last few years ,,, now thats the only facts we have and its not hard to see there is very little size wise between them ,,,,, so get off the David and Goliath bullshit with this fight while you say its ok for Pac vs Cotto where there will big weight difference ,,,,, Mangler is full of shit on this subject and like most its driven by hate for Floyd , Floyd is the only fighter that is supoosed to fight guys 16 plds bigger or its not a fair fight ,,, what rubbish .
Got me anotha cunt who can't post without mentioning my name huh? :cool2: Go on, tell em how much you luv me Rod. :D :dance:
Pacquiao has looked better.
But just because 1 guy does it doesn't mean everyone can do it.
Marquez is also 36, he's got 6 years on Pacquiao at a time where there ain't much time left.
It's not asif Marquez hasn't been hit alot in his career.
He was hurt by a 45% KO ratio in Diaz, a guy who I thought lost to Malignaggi in his last fight.
Paul Williams did it pretty easily. even someone like Guerillimo Jones jumped from 154lbs and is now a Cruiserweight alphabet belt champ. ha not everyone is like him though.
I dont really get how you can say Pacquiao has looked much better, the guy is coming off two of the most dominant big wins of his career lol. maybe he has looked better, but he sure as hell didnt look much worse, which was the whole point.
and you get caught and hurt sometimes, it happens. Calzaghe got dropped hard by a mediocre Kabary Salem, doesnt mean he would get KOed at 175. its just part of boxing. yea, I had to bring up Calzaghe, sorry. it was your screenname that did it.