Anyone who says Mayweather vs Marquez is an illegitimate fight is an idiot

Who said he is not going to fight at 140 you fool Ive answered that comment 20 times before , he has been there before and smaller and he is on his way back there again for Pac ,,,, dont you realize he has come of a 2 yr layoff of course a little weight goes on during a lay off or Floyd is not human which way you want it , what did Roach say I,ll quote it for you " Floyd is a little guy he can make 140 easy he is just lazy " I take that as more lazy to dry out than lazy to work . Insists on fighting small guys ,,, are you for fuken real he has fought bigger guys , heaps bigger guys many times , this and Hatton are only guys he has fought near his size in a long long time and Hatton was still bigger on fight night , I didnt see you moaning then , and thats the point , you guys have Floyd rules and everybody else rules thats why I rip into you pricks because you are biased and haters more than fans of boxing . I dont avoid any questions its is Pull that answers questions with questions or totally ignores them . . So he's going to fight Pac at 140, but is fighting a guy whose a fair bit smaller than Pac at 144? Why not give the JMM fight some legitimacy? Why does Floyd need an advantage over the slower/older/smaller Marquez? BTW you really didn't answer much of anything that I posted. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, you never do.

i love these two guys i hope it will draw

Mate why dont you answer the question , you make a stupid double standard statement and I call you on it then your answer is another question , anybody following along can see your getting flogged ,,, all Im saying is be consistent in what you say instead of one set of rules for Floyd and another set for everybody else . Or you could be like Great Joe the little kid in the other thread that is also getting flogged so he he locks me out of his thread ,,, lol , funny thing with combos in a forum you dont know your talking to a child untill it shows . Since you seem to have conveniently ignored Pullcounter's post if floyd can't / won't / shouldn't fight WWs then why don't he go back down to 140 lbs? And I'll add "If Floyd insists on fighting small LWs (Marquez) then why not fight them at LW? Why does Floyd need an advantage over Marquez when he already has age, size, speed, etc?

Pffffffff I can't pull up a screenshot right now, but JMM weighed 140 on fight night against Diaz. Keep it real you clowns.

How comes its okay for Pacquiao to fight Cotto at 147 but not Marquez v Mayweather at 144(3 POUNDS LIGHTER CAN I ADD!). I don't think pac belongs at WW either, but atleast pac had 2 fights above 135 lbs. JMM has zero. Cottohuggers piss me off something rotten, get over the fact Floyd is more skilled than your man and stop making stupid pops at Floyd. yeah they are annoying And don't use the excuse (Pacquiao has beaten up guys bigger than him in his last two fights, Marquez has not). its not an excuse, it's fact. GIVE MARQUEZ A CHANCE. sure.... about a 5% chance to win. If all this mocking the fight was after the fight i could accept it, but not before. What are all these idiots going to say if Marquez pulls of an upset? if JMM pulls off the upset, it would be a great acheivement because he has no chance. Mosley or Cotto will both be more than 10 pounds bigger (heavier )than Floyd on the night , didnt you just claim 4lbs is too much for a fair fight ,,, there is absolute proof of your double standard . if floyd can't / won't / shouldn't fight WWs then why don't he go back down to 140 lbs? I know your talking weight divisions ,and ignoring that that dont actually weigh that when they fight . I take both into consideration. that's why I'm saying JMM is not training for a fight at 135 lbs, he's training for a fight at 144 lbs, which means JMM is training to put on more weight. nobody knows how this will effect JMM's speed or reflexes, more than likely it will have a negative effect. you refuse to acknowledge this.

lol Dude, filling out to 141lbs in a 130lb fight is not the same as filling out to 144lbs. You shouldn't even neeed me to tell you that, just use your f*ckin eyes. At 130 you fill out to lean and quick fighter, anything above that perfect weight for Marquez you can expect him to slow down somewhat. I mean the fact Fraud wouldn't settle for 140lb fight and tried to get as close to 147 as he could, tells you he's lookin for an edge. lol It's f*ckin pathetic cause Marquez is a featherweight, and Fraud still needs all the edge he can get. :rofl: sorry, youre delusional. if anything, cutting the weight and putting it back on overnight would hurt you. walking around at that same exact weight and not having to worry about getting down to 130lbs would probably be healthier. Even if your scenario is true, couldnt Marquez just do exactly what he did for Pacquiao 2, and end up being at the 144 weight anyway? yes because he wasn't trying to put on muscle and get bigger. jmm changed his training. he's doing alot of strength training and putting on muscle. that is gonna effect jmm's speed and reflexes. we don't know wow heavy jmm will come in on fight night and we don't know how well JMM will perform at WW. if he does do all youre saying, then thats his own fault. he didnt need to gain any weight to be 144lbs. its a training flaw/a bad strategy, not a necessity to put on weight to make the contract limit. like I've said, jmm has changed his training regiment. no one knows how the weight will effect him. IT'S FALSE TO THINK THAT JMM WILL BE THE SAME AT 147 LBS AS HE WAS AT 135 LBS. its at 144 lbs. hes fights at that weight for his 135 fights. why would he be any worse of a fighter. 144-144=0. there is no change! wow! its weird that yall cant grasp that.

How comes its okay for Pacquiao to fight Cotto at 147 but not Marquez v Mayweather at 144(3 POUNDS LIGHTER CAN I ADD!). Cottohuggers piss me off something rotten, get over the fact Floyd is more skilled than your man and stop making stupid pops at Floyd. And don't use the excuse (Pacquiao has beaten up guys bigger than him in his last two fights, Marquez has not). GIVE MARQUEZ A CHANCE. If all this mocking the fight was after the fight i could accept it, but not before. What are all these idiots going to say if Marquez pulls of an upset?

Your a bullshitter Pull I used to think your were a clued poster your not . false. i'm not bullshitting you Is 4lbs too much ,,,,,, the lbs don't matter, the problem is jmm has never fought above lightweight. then you tell me who Floyd should fight in your book and then we will look at the weight ,,,, come on dont run away now . mosley If he is 2 divisions away from his current fight weight , thats been the case with JMM for 2 yrs as he has weighed the same on fight night last 3 fights , so he was most effective at 130 ,,, well guess what so was Floyd , your a hater Pull full of double standards not the unbiased poster you make out to be . I'm talking about weight divisions, not fight night weights. don't get it twisted. Dont forget to tell us who you think Floyd should fight ,,, a name ? mosley or cotto

did you think Marquez was quick enough when he faced Pacquiao the second time around, at 130? yes because he wasn't trying to put on muscle and get bigger. he weighed 141lbs on fight night for that fight. I dont think 3 lbs is going to kill him. jmm changed his training. he's doing alot of strength training and putting on muscle. that is gonna effect jmm's speed and reflexes. we don't know wow heavy jmm will come in on fight night and we don't know how well JMM will perform at WW. weve seen him at 144lbs. thats what he weighed when he fought Diaz. like I've said, jmm has changed his training regiment. no one knows how the weight will effect him. IT'S FALSE TO THINK THAT JMM WILL BE THE SAME AT 147 LBS AS HE WAS AT 135 LBS.

seriously. yall are getting ridiculous with this, and I dont even like Mayweather that much. yes, Mayweather has the size advantage, but Mayweather is coming off a 2 year layoff and is fighting one of the most skilled fighters today. not to mention the fight is at 144lbs, and Marquez weighed in on fight night at about that weight anyway against Diaz... Is it the biggest challenge for Floyd? no. Is it a compelling fight with two incredibly skilled fighters in it? you bet your ass it is. you wah wahs bitching about the weight sound like the same ones who were whining about how DLH was 'cherry picking' a 'flyweight', and that it was a mismatch and a joke of a matchup because Pacquiao would be so small that he would evaporate from the first semi-hard punch. boy oh boy, you guys sure were right. yall need to wake up realise this is boxing. size is only one factor in a large pool of other ones. and the size disadvantage for Marquez is highly overdone anyway, yall act like Floyd is 20lbs heavier than Marquez when they probably wont weigh more than 6lbs apart from one another on fight night green k sent

Why the f*ck do you think Ignacio was worried about Marquez bein able to bring his speed up in weight? He's a perfect featherweight, decent lightweight, now he's fighting 3lbs away from full Welterweight. Carrying too much muscle on your body will slow you down no matter what. lol You got to be a god damn fool to think Marquez is going to come in exactly like he did in the Diaz fight. Part of Marquez's training has been gaining weight, while TRYING to remain quick. lol Just cause he's 143 in a Diaz fight, doesn't mean he's gonna be a mirror image in this welterweight fight. Even in the Casamayor fight, Marquez was less sharp and more sluggish than he's ever been. He sharpened up for the Diaz fight though, now he's moving up again. Just the fact alone that you think it's gonna be "all good" for Marquez before even seeing him at 144 is flat out dumb. The risk Marquez is taking by moving up this much is beyond obvious. did you think Marquez was quick enough when he faced Pacquiao the second time around, at 130? he weighed 141lbs on fight night for that fight. I dont think 3 lbs is going to kill him. weve seen him at 144lbs. thats what he weighed when he fought Diaz.

Same thing I said, had a 3rd fight between Pacquiao and Marquez taken place, Pacquiao would have weighed 148. I'm sure Mayweather is gonna weight just as much. yep. Pacquiao weighed 148(maybe 145) on fight night when he fought Marquez at 130, and that hasnt changed. unless Im mistaken, thats how much he weighed against Hatton on fight night. certainly didnt hurt him.

lol You're a f*ckin moron, doesn't matter if Marquez walks around at 143 or 153 or 193. His fight weight is 130, 135 if you want to push it. As for the rest of your post, lol you're just talkin out of your ass. There's a huge chance Marquez might be slower, sluggish etc etc Even if he is to remain quick, you got to factor in how soon will he lose his stamina? Is he going to gas quicker? That's generally what happens when you move up in weight when you're naturally a lighter fighter. I mean this fight could have been made at 140, but they negotiated Marquez to come up as high as he could. The higher he is, the less risk for the Fraud. It's a damn shame that a fighter of Marquez' caliber has to get suckered in by a clown of the sport, but at the same time that just proves how BAD Marquez wanted this fight. He's steppin up to this joke, but all the risk is on Marquez's shoulders. ugh, are you joking? what you weigh in on fight night matters much more than what you weigh in at on the first day. If Marquez weigh in on fight night at 143 for his 135 fights, and he weighs in at 143 on fight night for the Mayweather fight, why the hell would he be more sluggish? just like Pacquiao-DLH fight, yall are overreacting just because a fighter is moving up in weight. and dont give me the DLH was drained business, because look what happened to Hatton. hes at a size disadvantage, but its not awful. Marquez vs a larger Welterweight like Clottey or Cotto is another story.

this is ridiculous. Mayweather went after fighters at the lower weights because he was actually the SAME size as them, he runs around the ring when hes fighting guys bigger than him. and hes pretty much never pushed his opponent back and imposed his size, hes always been the kind of guy to pick his shots and prefer to use his speed. I feel like I have to say this a million times, MARQUEZ NATURALLY WEIGHS AROUND 143!!!!!!! Hes been weighing in that much even for his fights at 135! He does not have to gain any weight, and therefor will be the same fighter as ever. the only thing that 'hurts' him in this fight is that Mayweather is a little bigger than him, it doesnt make him any less of a fighter, it just makes it a little more challenging to beat his opponent. so, no, he will not appear sluggish. the size difference in this fight will not be that much greater than the size difference between him and Pacquiao in their fight at 130lbs. Same thing I said, had a 3rd fight between Pacquiao and Marquez taken place, Pacquiao would have weighed 148. I'm sure Mayweather is gonna weight just as much.

This is how stupid new boxing fans are... Marquez's strongest weight is 130 max, 135 alone is pushing it. Marquez started off at 126 and stayed around that area for the majority of his career FOR A REASON. But it's obvious Marquez was high off his win over Diaz when he called out Mayweather. Plus Manny wasn't gonna fight him again. What's even more pathetic is that Mayweather actually took this fight, but this is a guy who chose Baldomir and Hatton as opponents when the real fights were with Marg or Cotto. But Mayweather knows who to fight, and who to hide from. And how stupid do you gotta be to think Mayweather is gonna come in like De La Hoya, underweight and drained? The fights at 144, not 135. What do you think he did early in his career? What do you think he did in the Bruselles fight? He brought it straight to fighters, and he brought it straight to Bruselles. You dumb ass lol, Floyd only runs from stronger fighters. He knows when he can sit down and when he has to get on his bike. Marquez is just too f*ckin small to put it on Floyd like Jose Luis Castillo did. If anything, it's Marquez who's going to be the one who has to move back and fight a carefull fight. All in all Marquez has nerves as thick as rail road tracks for even goin after this fight, and even attempting to fight it at above 140. Now Marquez will try to be competitive, but it would have been more competitive if it was at a more competitive weight. I mean the fact there's a chance Marquez might show up completely sluggish and useless is enough to turn off any fight fan. this is ridiculous. Mayweather went after fighters at the lower weights because he was actually the SAME size as them, he runs around the ring when hes fighting guys bigger than him. and hes pretty much never pushed his opponent back and imposed his size, hes always been the kind of guy to pick his shots and prefer to use his speed. I feel like I have to say this a million times, MARQUEZ NATURALLY WEIGHS AROUND 143!!!!!!! Hes been weighing in that much even for his fights at 135! He does not have to gain any weight, and therefor will be the same fighter as ever. the only thing that 'hurts' him in this fight is that Mayweather is a little bigger than him, it doesnt make him any less of a fighter, it just makes it a little more challenging to beat his opponent. so, no, he will not appear sluggish. the size difference in this fight will not be that much greater than the size difference between him and Pacquiao in their fight at 130lbs.

I also want to see what happens next because i want to see matchup involving Mosley...Cotto or whoever the top fighter is at 147 but i cant wait to see the back of the Mayweather/JMM saga.. I guess I agree, I have said the same thing time and again about Floyd/JMM and no one is going to change their mind on the fight so it just goes in circles. I still think it is going to be a pretty good fight while it lasts.

I want to see what happeans next but I am still anticipating the fight. I also want to see what happens next because i want to see matchup involving Mosley...Cotto or whoever the top fighter is at 147 but i cant wait to see the back of the Mayweather/JMM saga..

You took those words out of my mouth mang, I cant wait for this fight to be over with... I want to see what happeans next but I am still anticipating the fight.

I just wish the fukkin fight was this weekend so everybody could get off this shit already. You took those words out of my mouth mang, I cant wait for this fight to be over with...

MARQUEZ HAS ALREADY BEEN WEIGHING IN AROUND 143 SINCE HES BEEN FIGHTING AT 135. HES NOT ACTUALLY ADDING 10LBS, HE WEIGHS THAT MUCH ALREADY. yea, putting it in caps was too much, I apologize. Floyd will weigh no more than 6lbs more than Marquez on fight night, and thats all that really matters in terms of size. whats funny is that when Pacquiao went to 135, people were playing him down and using his fight against David Diaz as 'evidence' that he would lose to DLH, since it took him 9(?) rounds to beat Dave. just because Marquez is unproven at the weight doesnt mean hes garbage there. for the millionth time, I dont think Marquez can move up in weight as good as Pacquiao, but I(and a fair share of others) would give him a good chance against Hatton. Hatton is one thing, Floyd is another, and Marquez would struggle with Hatton. Pacquiao's at 126 and 130 was an athletic freak, so him having this success at 135 and 140 isn't a huge stretch. Marquez has never had those advantages, relying on his incredible boxing IQ. He was able to beat Juan Diaz and Casamayor because they aren't exactly great athletes themselves, but he didn't look great doing it. Floyd did once fight at 130 and 135 but he has been past that for a while and like Pac has tremendous athletic talents that will allow him to easily beat Marquez. Marquez athletically cannot compare to Floyd, and if he fights Pac at any weight between 140 and 147 Pac will probably have a much easier time than he did in their first two fights as well.