Lets stop the size excuse bullsh*t

LOL... damn :lol1: wtf happen in here.. i see i ruffled a few feathers i meant to put j/k a loooooooong time ago

PC, You seem "stuck" on the weight divisions. Disturbingly so. so you think weight divisions are a sham? Would this fight be MORE unfair if they fought at the SMW limit? Or the LHW limit? Or the CW limit? I say no. this fight would be more fair at jr WW. Marquez isn't fighting "at welterweight". WW = anything between 147 and 140, so yeah, he is. He is fighting Floyd Mayweather. yep There is no surprise what size Floyd is going to be. yep too big for jmm. Mayweather isn't going to pull a Clottey or a Gatti. doesn't matter, jmm is putting on more weight than he ever has. he will be slower. Floyd will be 148-150 on fight night. Do you agree? yes When JMM fought Pacquiao last, Pac was 145 on fight night. Again, do you agree? not sure... link plz. Sooooo, I'm going to need your help on this huge weight disparity that you are trying to portray. If you feel that fighting someone four pounds heavier than Pacquiao a cool 18 moths later is unfair, then I disagree. Four pounds. 18 months. its simple. jmm has never fought above the lightweight limit. even floyd says jmm is too small. /thread

I've got no problem with that. But why didn't Floyd fight Margarito after he beat Cotto? Of course Margarito ducked a rematch with Paul Williams, so I say fuck both Margarito and Mayweather. It's like comparing a black turd to a brown turd. But it still doesn't change the fact that Floyd ducked Margo. He was signed on for a rematch with Oscar De La Hoya...which was being arranged in January...well before Margarito stopped Cotto

Are you ****in' kidding me????? Really you must be kidding... Floyd didnt duck Margarito he was offered the Margarito fight in 06 the same time he was negotiating a fight with De La Hoya... Why and the hell would he choose to fight Margarito over De La Hoya who's gonna bring in 1000x more money to you... That's not a duck that's being smart I've got no problem with that. But why didn't Floyd fight Margarito after he beat Cotto? Of course Margarito ducked a rematch with Paul Williams, so I say fuck both Margarito and Mayweather. It's like comparing a black turd to a brown turd. But it still doesn't change the fact that Floyd ducked Margo.

yeah but floyd didn't jump 2 divisions to fight dlh. Floyd came in at fight night weighing 149 pounds and Oscar weighed 160 that's fighting someone two divisions up... Hell no there wont be a 11 pound difference with Floyd and Juan

Well, I guess the Floyd stans are going to hang their hat on his Baldomir victory. And like I said, if he can fight a supposedly huge Welter like Baldomir, why can't he fight the ones who are worth a shit? Margarito wanted his comeback fight with Baldomir in Tijuana. I guess we know why. Of course Margarito is being a mirror image of Floyd by doing that. But at least that lets us know he was the guy that Floyd should have fought and was the tougher challenge. Are you ****in' kidding me????? Really you must be kidding... Floyd didnt duck Margarito he was offered the Margarito fight in 06 the same time he was negotiating a fight with De La Hoya... Why and the hell would he choose to fight Margarito over De La Hoya who's gonna bring in 1000x more money to you... That's not a duck that's being smart

Well, I guess the Floyd stans are going to hang their hat on his Baldomir victory. And like I said, if he can fight a supposedly huge Welter like Baldomir, why can't he fight the ones who are worth a shit? Margarito wanted his comeback fight with Baldomir in Tijuana. I guess we know why. Of course Margarito is being a mirror image of Floyd by doing that. But at least that lets us know he was the guy that Floyd should have fought and was the tougher challenge.

Marque was "angling" for this fight. yeah but floyd didn't jump 2 divisions to fight dlh.

I was never against Floyd/DLh because that was the fight floyd was angling for his whole career. but now that he got it, its time to make fights that we wanna watch. Mayweather should have started off by facing Shane Mosely, Pacquiao or Cotto. Perfect opponents coming off a 2 year layoff.

I was never against Floyd/DLh because that was the fight floyd was angling for his whole career. but now that he got it, its time to make fights that we wanna watch.

Isn't floyd the only welterweight elite,who never fought Margarito,Mosley,Cotto or Clottey??hmmmm!!:boxing: Then I guess he isn't an elite WW.

Somebody has a birthday tomorrow. http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=004952&cat=boxer SSM is still the top WW and a viable opponent til proven not to be. Age in boxing ain't always reflected by # of birthdays celebrated. He's proven that already.

Isn't floyd the only welterweight elite,who never fought Margarito,Mosley,Cotto or Clottey??hmmmm!!:boxing:

I know you wanna see him against Mosley, hopefully it happens and soon before Shane turns 40. Real talk Reign. He retired as the WW champ. SSM is the closest thing to that right now. He needs to fight him before he gets any older. As of now, SSM is past prime, but still elite. The 'he was old' excuse wouldn't be valid. Ideally he woulda came back for this fight, but now SSM gotta get past Clottey.

Floyd had never tested himself at 154, can you show me a post where you said Oscar was too big for Floyd? I wasn't a member at that time Reign. And for the record, I was still a big fan of Mr boat buyer at that time, and I did not wanna see that fight. I wanted him to defend the WW crown.

Size is an excuse Floyd's detractors use when regarding Marquez. They really think its Floyd's skill that separate the two. If it was about size then they would have said Oscar was too big for Floyd, nobody said that because they believed Floyd's skill would overcome that size barrier, hence its the skill level, not the size which is the core of the issue. Well said man.

No he wasn't, I put money on that fight here in Vegas and Friday night PBF was about a 1.5 to 1 favorite, on fight night Floyd was the underdog. I was pissed I didn't wait till fight night because I put my money on whoever the underdog was, I saw it as a 50/50 fight. Y'all are trippin. Mr boat buyer was the favorite. Anyways, we gettin off topic. I dunno how this DLH tangent started, but there was legit discussion goin down before the old man had a seizure. Duran tested himself at WW before he fought SRL. TS and the other Mr boat buyer stans gotta stop tryin to use that shit as an excuse. It's old anyways. JMM ain't a WW, and Mr boat buyer is. He shoulda faced JMM at 140 and a victory couldn't be questioned. Period.

Yea he was. No he wasn't, I put money on that fight here in Vegas and Friday night PBF was about a 1.5 to 1 favorite, on fight night Floyd was the underdog. I was pissed I didn't wait till fight night because I put my money on whoever the underdog was, I saw it as a 50/50 fight.

It isn't even about that, SRL was a HUGE WW. SRL was to WW what Floyd was to SFW. well it counts... cause JMM is unproven above 135 lbs, while duran was. Which tells you that skill and ability are prioritized over size, my friend. nope. it means DLH is not as good as floyd, not necessarily saying anything about size in general. Are you denying that the Oscar/Floyd disparity is bigger than Floyd/Juan? nope wouldn't floyd be the favourite to beat cotto, pacquiao or mosley too? imho yes floyd was p4p no 1 at the time, just like how marquez is p4p no 2 right now, yeah, but when both fighters are equally skilled or closely skilled, size matters. some consider him no 1 cos he beat pacquiao twice most list have jmm as 2, even people that had jmm winning.

I'm mad we're talking about Oscar-Floyd...lol