If it isn't only about "what have you done for me lately" than Cotto has a head to head win over Mosley.
well.... mosley KTFO margo who has victories over both cotto and clottey, so based on that criteria, mosley is still ahead of cotto as that is the most recent thing he has done lately.
But I digress...either way, inactivity hurts your P4P status. Notice how once it came up on a year both Vazquez and Marquez were dropped off of most P4P lists?
those 2 were injured. bhop and mosley were/are not. in a sense, you could say it was a form or racism that vasquez and marquez were dropped, but i digress, that is a discussion for another thread.
Hopkins doesn't even have a concrete fight in sight.
doesn't matter, he tried to negotiate for a fight that fell through.
I aint trying to put Cotto in the same league as Hopkins
cotto is in the same league, just not ranked above bhop just yet.
, I'm just saying his inactivity is gonna cause him to drop when other guys are fighting in huge mega fights.
as long as bhop is negotiating for fights he stays. cotto will overtake bhop if he beats pac and another top 5 p4per... either mosley or the winner of pbf/jmm.
sorry cotto stans...
1.Exactly he retire he gave up his position. He needs to earn it like everybody else now.
p4p ain't like winning a divisional title. you don't have to start at the bottom and work your way back to the top. floyd retired on top, so with a win against jmm, he will be tied w/ pac for #1.
2.B-Hop is 3-3 and his last 6 fights,
yeah, but bhop was never beat down and forced to quit by a slow face-first unskilled brawler like margo.
plus he hasnt fought in a year.
doesn't matter, he was in negotiations that failed.
Cotto Mosley was clear as water 8-4 Cotto,
nope, it wasn't a clear victory.
didnt matter if it was in the moon the better fighter got the descicion.
cotto got the decision in MSG... someplace else, the verdict might've been different.
Anything else would of been a robbery.
lol... funny; everyone knows you can't decision cotto in MSG.
3.Mosley beat Margarito, but hasnt fought in almost a year, plus since 2007,
doesn't matter, he destroyed the guy that made cotto quit.
Cotto defeated Mosley,
nope... he got a decision in MSG... anywhere else and the result might be different.
Lost to Margarito and Defeated Clottey.
nope... he quit against margo and got ANOTHER decision against clottey (one that imho he deserved, but many others dispute)
Mosley lost to Cotto
nope, mosley couldn't / can't / will never get the decision over cotto in MSG.
beat Margarito
he didn't just beat, he KTFO margo
and almost lost to Mayorga.
mosley KTFO mayorga.
Cotto>>>>>>>Mosley,
sorry, but you're wrong.
head to head as a WW and P4P wise too.
false.
4.Again he gave up his position.
doesn't matter, p4p don't work like weight divisions.
5.Yes he will!!!!!!!
nope
c'mon... hatton has accomplished as much if not more than cotto has.
nah...
1) pac / floyd (winner of this fight is #1)
2) jmm
3) bhop
4) mosley
true
nah...
1) jmm
2) bhop
3) mosley
4) cotto
5) pbf
6) pac
nope.
1) floyd
2) bhop
3) mosley
4) cotto
5) pac
6) jmm
If it isn't only about "what have you done for me lately" than Cotto has a head to head win over Mosley.
But I digress...either way, inactivity hurts your P4P status. Notice how once it came up on a year both Vazquez and Marquez were dropped off of most P4P lists?
Hopkins doesn't even have a concrete fight in sight. I aint trying to put Cotto in the same league as Hopkins, I'm just saying his inactivity is gonna cause him to drop when other guys are fighting in huge mega fights.
Nope we are not, cuz we aint saying Cotto will be #1 just for beating Pacquiao.
c'mon... hatton has accomplished as much if not more than cotto has.
What we are saying is this, if Manny wins he stays at #1, if Manny wins and Floyd wins Manny stays at #1 and Floyd jumps to #3
nah...
1) pac / floyd (winner of this fight is #1)
2) jmm
3) bhop
4) mosley
If Manny wins and JMM wins they stay as they are.
true
if Cotto wins and JMM wins then JMM jumps to #1 and Cotto to #2 and Pac to #3.
nah...
1) jmm
2) bhop
3) mosley
4) cotto
5) pbf
6) pac
If Cotto wins and Floyd Wins Cotto jumps to #1, FLoyd to #2, Pacquiao #3 and jmm to #4.
Thats how shit should go!!!!!!!!!
nope.
1) floyd
2) bhop
3) mosley
4) cotto
5) pac
6) jmm
Why will you rank Mayweather over Cotto?
cause floyd retired as p4p #1 and in his return defeated the #2 p4p.
No way. Cotto hops Hopkins and Mosley who have each done jack shit in almost a year, while Cotto would have beaten a top oppenent in Clottey, and the P4P #1, size difference or not.
bhop: p4p ain't just about "what have you done for me lately".
mosley: mosley destroyed margo who made cotto quit and mosley/cotto was a close fight which cotto won a decision in MSG, but might/would have had a different result in a different venue.
It'll be interesting to see how people treat the Mayweather situation.
I'd prob have it:
1. Floyd
2. Cotto
3. Pac
4.JMM
that's cool, but you have cotto way to high, plus you bumped off bhop and don't give enough credit to mosley for destroying the man you made cotto quit.
I dont think mayweather would deserve the top spot.
why not? floyd retired p4p #1 and he would've beaten p4p #2
And dont see why anyone would not advance cotto.
of course he will advance.... just not in the top 3.
Based on opponents fought. And i would still have jmm at the least top 5.
as long as he's behind pac.
What I understand is that when you beat the man you become the man and Pacquiao is the man at this point not Floyd. If Cotto defeats Manny then he becomes the man especially after fighting all the top opposition at WW, which Floyd has yet to even tap into that market yet.
no no no no no no no.... p4p is not like winning a divisional title. cotto stans need to understand this. you cotto stans are making the exact same mistake hatton stans made.
tbh jmm and pac has no business fighting those 2 guys.
true
i don't think pac and jmm will fall for losing to floyd and cotto.
nah, they will fall in the rankings but not off the top 10
how many times I gotta post this:
1) floyd
2) bhop
3) mosley
4) cotto
5) pac
6) jmm
No way. Cotto hops Hopkins and Mosley who have each done jack shit in almost a year, while Cotto would have beaten a top oppenent in Clottey, and the P4P #1, size difference or not.
It'll be interesting to see how people treat the Mayweather situation.
I'd prob have it:
1. Floyd
2. Cotto
3. Pac
4.JMM
I dont think mayweather would deserve the top spot. And dont see why anyone would not advance cotto. Based on opponents fought. And i would still have jmm at the least top 5.
1. Floyd
2. Pac
3. JMM
4. Cotto
5. Mosley/Hopkins
Makes perfect sense to me.
Floyd hasn't been gone that long really, and he's not lost to lose his top spot.
What I understand is that when you beat the man you become the man and Pacquiao is the man at this point not Floyd. If Cotto defeats Manny then he becomes the man especially after fighting all the top opposition at WW, which Floyd has yet to even tap into that market yet.
mayweather beats jmm and cotto beats manny how would u rank these guys in the list ?
how many times I gotta post this:
1) floyd
2) bhop
3) mosley
4) cotto
5) pac
6) jmm
For anybody who thinks their size diffrence isn't that much. Get Cotto down to 140 and see what happens.
Cotto will outweigh Pac in the ring by double digits, that much is certain.
Pacquiao is only going up 5 pounds! He probably will not weight the full 145 and he had a match at WW just last year! Stop making excuses so you don't have to give Cotto credit for the win.
Pac was also fighting at 130 last year.
Pacquiao is only going up 5 pounds! He probably will not weight the full 145 and he had a match at WW just last year! Stop making excuses so you don't have to give Cotto credit for the win.
I give Cotto full credit for the win, I actually like Cotto better than Pac so why would I make excuses?
Also, I'd give Cotto alot more credit for beating Pac than I would for Floyd beating JMM.
if pac and jmm both lose he'll take the top spot.
mosley can't take the top spot.
cotto definitely can't.
hopkins? please......
B-Hop should take the top spot. Mayweather beating JMM, he'd get himself into the Top 10 P4P, probably number 5 or something.
I agree that its how its gonna be in the rankings... my personal opinion though i dont think they should give Floyd the top spot cause he's still cherry picking and he hasn't proved shit lately.. but boxing writers will put Floyd #1 .. If it was up to me he'd be # 5 or 6.. after Bhop or Shane..
I don't think they will, Mayweather has to get past JMM and beat the winner of Cotto vs Pacquiao to get the number 1 spot.
Didn't you agree with me on the other page when I said:
1. Floyd
2. Pac
3. JMM
4. Cotto?
lol
Make your mind up.
I put Floyd at the top because thats where he was when he left.
IMO Floyd is better than JMM p4p anyway, regardless of size. No matter if they were the same size or not, I think Floyd would win.
IMO Pac is far better than Cotto p4p, and the only reason I think Cotto would ever win is because he's the bigger man. Not because he's a better fighter.
That's why I'd still have Cotto below the other 3.
I agree that its how its gonna be in the rankings... my personal opinion though i dont think they should give Floyd the top spot cause he's still cherry picking and he hasn't proved shit lately.. but boxing writers will put Floyd #1 .. If it was up to me he'd be # 5 or 6.. after Bhop or Shane..
so then in your logic, pacman shouldnt change.. and Floyd should'nt move into top 10 at all?? i agree.. lol
Didn't you agree with me on the other page when I said:
1. Floyd
2. Pac
3. JMM
4. Cotto?
lol
Make your mind up.
I put Floyd at the top because thats where he was when he left.
IMO Floyd is better than JMM p4p anyway, regardless of size. No matter if they were the same size or not, I think Floyd would win.
IMO Pac is far better than Cotto p4p, and the only reason I think Cotto would ever win is because he's the bigger man. Not because he's a better fighter.
That's why I'd still have Cotto below the other 3.