i see this being posted everyday. i even saw someone saying "if marquez can counter pac, so as miguel" and even juanma mentioned that miguels counter punching will be the key to victory, no its not. i wont take anything away from cotto cause yes, he can counter. again, he can counter, but hes not as good as marquez who can time pac between his punches
If he can establish his Jab, Manny wont be able to do much. Manny is going to have to go in and try to hit Cotto with bombs and hope that he can hurt him, but in order to do that he is going to take some shots as well, there is no way this fight makes it past 7rds. Cotto's jab is what help him beat Mosely and Zab, and I think its going to be the key in this fight as well.
thats possible but i think the fight end in rd11
If he can establish his Jab, Manny wont be able to do much. Manny is going to have to go in and try to hit Cotto with bombs and hope that he can hurt him, but in order to do that he is going to take some shots as well, there is no way this fight makes it past 7rds. Cotto's jab is what help him beat Mosely and Zab, and I think its going to be the key in this fight as well.
Ok...so I didn't read the 7 or 8 pages...but your initial post which was clearly not substantial. SO to say my "post" fails? Dude your #1 post fails. In fact your topic fails - You don't even have a ground to stand on lol.
I don't have time to read all the arguments or comments beyond your initial post...SO as a rebuttle to your post...it's based off of nothing...sorry bro if you took offense...but you need to articulate your thoughts a little better first time around. If that has been done in the 7-8 pages...then fine...but anyperson reading would jump all over your statement...if not already.
I do have grounds as to why COTTO is a great counterpuncher. I've stated countless times why. Marquez in his own right is a great counterpuncher. To say that he is better than Cotto cannot be said. I think both have proven their ability against top tier opponents.
i dont know about you bro. no disrespect but youre the only who didnt seem to understand my inital post :ugh:
Oh and I never said Cotto will beat Pacman with counter punches
I agree with the people here that say it's a stiff jab...and timing Pacman will be the key to victory even Roach was quoted saying that Cotto past fights, He nullified Shane Mosley’s speed and that’s Manny’s greatest asset also.
We will see Nov 4th. It will be a good fight.
Pac is in for a tough fight no doubt. In the end I think the in and out style at high speeds will be too much for Cotto.
Yes that's what will get to Cotto.
You have NO Grounds on your statement.
the funniest post in this thread so far. you failed to comprehend on everything thats been discussed here :lol1:
Ok...so I didn't read the 7 or 8 pages...but your initial post which was clearly not substantial. SO to say my "post" fails? Dude your #1 post fails. In fact your topic fails - You don't even have a ground to stand on lol.
I don't have time to read all the arguments or comments beyond your initial post...SO as a rebuttle to your post...it's based off of nothing...sorry bro if you took offense...but you need to articulate your thoughts a little better first time around. If that has been done in the 7-8 pages...then fine...but anyperson reading would jump all over your statement...if not already.
I do have grounds as to why COTTO is a great counterpuncher. I've stated countless times why. Marquez in his own right is a great counterpuncher. To say that he is better than Cotto cannot be said. I think both have proven their ability against top tier opponents.
Cotto has one of the strongest Jabs in the game.
Manny is going to have to circle, duck and get out the way quick all while punching at lightning speed.. Pacquiao can do it, but it will be a rough night.
A very rough and bloody one.
Why do you think he needs better conditioning ? Because he is going up against a man who is wide ass open from bell to bell round after round for all 12 rounds. that throws more and is in super fast. He will need all of it and more. Nothing Cotto can do is going to prepare him for whats in store.
how does it feel to ride manny's c@c2???
i think cotto should cancel the fight, because on your eyes, there's nothing cotto can do to beat manny.
WHERE IS YOUR ARGUMENT??? I'll be the first to say that I said MARQUEZ counter the poop out of Pacman and won...yes I said won.
Cotto in his own right can counter...I don't have to go through it again...but you cannot say "NO IT"S NOT" without valid points to support that. lol...
I've supported my argument of COTTO CAN counterpunch just as good as any of the elite counterpunchers out there...
the funniest post in this thread so far. you failed to comprehend on everything thats been discussed here :lol1:
WHERE IS YOUR ARGUMENT??? I'll be the first to say that I said MARQUEZ counter the poop out of Pacman and won...yes I said won.
Cotto in his own right can counter...I don't have to go through it again...but you cannot say "NO IT"S NOT" without valid points to support that. lol...
I've supported my argument of COTTO CAN counterpunch just as good as any of the elite counterpunchers out there...How? kindly explain again.
i see this being posted everyday. i even saw someone saying "if marquez can counter pac, so as miguel" and even juanma mentioned that miguels counter punching will be the key to victory, no its not. i wont take anything away from cotto cause yes, he can counter. again, he can counter, but hes not as good as marquez who can time pac between his punches
WHERE IS YOUR ARGUMENT??? I'll be the first to say that I said MARQUEZ counter the poop out of Pacman and won...yes I said won.
Cotto in his own right can counter...I don't have to go through it again...but you cannot say "NO IT"S NOT" without valid points to support that. lol...
I've supported my argument of COTTO CAN counterpunch just as good as any of the elite counterpunchers out there...
Marquez's counterpunching is among the best P4P in the world. Cotto is a good counterpuncher, but not that good. Cotto's amazing timing, jab, and superior size and strength will help him win this fight.
cosign. i just cant take it when i see someone saying that cotto's counter punching is on the same level as marquez :lol1:
Cotto gotta pressure Pac to win. Counter when available of course, but he can't wait on that. He's the bigger man defendin his WW turf and he better fight like it.
Why does Cotto need to counter? Do any of you really thing Manny is going to be the one putting on the pressure in this fight? It all comes down to will Cotto's pressure buckle Manny or will Manny's speed cripple Cotto, that's it.
Marquez's counterpunching is among the best P4P in the world. Cotto is a good counterpuncher, but not that good. Cotto's amazing timing, jab, and superior size and strength will help him win this fight.