I hear it all the time on here, that Floyd has to prove himself to be a draw because Oscar carried the 1st card and Hatton carried the 2nd card. At best they say that Floyd was even up or just lower then Hatton but Ricky was definatly the draw.
When it comes to the Oscar fight I will give him his props because we all know who Oscar is but he still broke records with Floyd. No one has more big names on there resume than Oscar and he broke boxing records with Floyd. Dont tell me that Floyd had nothing to do with that. If you think that then youre lying to yourself but again, Ill give Oscar his due.
Hatton though, gets nothing from me. I dont see how people and media guys can sit there and say that with a straight face. Its like they dont even really think about it. I always ask this one question and I still never get a response. Who the hell in the US knew who Hatton was? No one. Sure he's beein in Europe and has some fans coming over but what does that have to do with US PPV sales. No one knew Hatton, no one. It was Floyd that sold that fight in the US and Floyd only. Dont give me this stuff that Floyd hasnt proven anything when it comes to sales or being the draw. Who knew Hatton? Seriously. No one was spending all that money to see Hatton fight. People knew Floyd. Give the man his props
You must not undertand the topic at hand.
Give me a break nuthugger, I understand the topic just fine and have actually brought facts and logic to this thread. You on the other hand are doing what you always do.....cheer leading Floyd from your knee's.
mayweather was hattons 4th major fight in america. he fought collazo in boston, urango in las vegas and castillo in las vegas before the floyd fight. i dunno about america, but im pretty certain all those fights were PPV here. id say a larger % of those 915k were due to mayweather (in the hope he was going to lose) but it also did 1.4 million PPV in the UK @ 4am.
How could I forget Collazo, I didn't know the Urango fight took place here, good looking out. Changes things alot.
How about the fact that Hatton only faught once in the U.S before facing Mayweather, we gotta remember he faced a washed up JLC. Mayweather vs Hatton was Hatton's first PPV in the U.S. We're not gonna act like Hatton fans came all the way to the U.S to buy the PPV also, PPV doing 915K buys had alot more to do with Mayweather.
mayweather was hattons 4th major fight in america. he fought collazo in boston, urango in las vegas and castillo in las vegas before the floyd fight. i dunno about america, but im pretty certain all those fights were PPV here. id say a larger % of those 915k were due to mayweather (in the hope he was going to lose) but it also did 1.4 million PPV in the UK @ 4am.
Mayweather's PPV history.
325K against Baldomir
365K against Gatti
375K against Zab Judah
2.4m against DLH
915K against Hattonwhich kinda indicates that ODLH brought 2.1 million buys and Hatton brought 500-600k buys.
Oh and 1.4million over on this side of the pond.
Why do Americans think that PPV are solely the province of teh USA and HBO?
Unless people start taking a census with PPV data, all we got to go on is the disparity of the crowd. So in the end the only data we have towards sales, and drawing power, do not favor Floyd.
How about the fact that Hatton only faught once in the U.S before facing Mayweather, we gotta remember he faced a washed up JLC. Mayweather vs Hatton was Hatton's first PPV in the U.S. We're not gonna act like Hatton fans came all the way to the U.S to buy the PPV also, PPV doing 915K buys had alot more to do with Mayweather.
Again, we're talking PPV here people.
There is no way to determine who was the reason for most of the PPV sales. But using what we do know as fact its a logical assumption that Hatton is the draw. This is in no way an exact science, but its a much better gauge than just saying "Floyd carried the PPV".
Again, we're talking PPV here people.
Unless people start taking a census with PPV data, all we got to go on is the disparity of the crowd. So in the end the only data we have towards sales, and drawing power, do not favor Floyd.
Floyd draws people toward his FAMOUS OPPONENTS because he is obnoxious and everyone wants to see him get beat. But if he fights a fighter that doesn't have the kind of following of DLH, or Hatton he sells nothing. That is just the truth. Even against Gatti which was obvious imo that Gatti was going to loose it was a Gatti house.
Maybe the only one that is a toss up is his fight with Judah... maybe.
He fought a few other fighters before DLH and Hatton (not too much before... just before)
And the places were downright empty..... empty.
At the end of the day there is not many people that really like to watch a big mouthed fighter, with a relatively light punch, and non crowd pleasing style.
Everyone wants to see blood and guts, excitement, climax, and fast pace.
All of which is not Floyd
Floyd hate on this board is rampant, fact of the matter is that Floyd was the main reason for the U.S. HBO PPV buys of nearly 1 million. Yes Hatton probably brought more to the gate but we are talking U.S. PPV buys, which is mainly because of Floyd.
You have zero proof of this and I tend to doubt the the US is the only place that sold that PPV. Without a big name Floyd has proven that he is an average draw, live or PPV.
i reckon hatton was the bigger draw not only financially, but also in the fact that he brought more fans, mayweather dont bring no fans. ye so the mayweather hatton fight might have sold for 50$ in US but if im correct it sold twice the amount in the smaller UK, even if it was only for 15 quid. hatton sold out the stadium, he sold practically every ppv in the UK and probably contributed to the US sales too. if only slightly. end of
maybe Im wrong, but I never thought Hatton was really a huge ppv draw. unless Im mistaken, Hatton's first PPV fight was against Mayweather, unless his fight with Castillo was PPV and I dont think it was.
generally, that suggests he wasnt a huge name when strictly speaking about the American audience, who would be the ones providing the PPV numbers that were talking about.
Im sure he certainly played his part when it came to the PPV numbers for Mayweather-Hatton, but I always felt that Mayweather was a more of the 'draw'.
well, its not a big deal either way.quote]
It only is to the Flomo's. More than any other fans, they are obsessed with how much money their man makes/draws.
you are such a ****ing dumb ass.
no body has vegas backing them as their home town hero no matter if you live there, it ****ing vegas for christs sake. hatton can draw his live britt crowd to the us, thats it why has he only been on HBO PPV for 2 fights against marquee names?
ppv numbers? you are going to tell me that hatton carried the US PPV numbers? lmao. hattons first big fight in the US after fighting uknowns in the UK his whole career was one year before the mayweather fight, 3 fights on HBO, collazo, urango, shot castillo. but mayweather was just coming off the richest boxing fight in history, and you are going to sit there and say that hatton carried the numbers for their fight.
the mayweather-hatton fight was in the making for 2 years and every one was hyping the shit out of hatton as the one to beat mayweather,
mayweather-marquez is a ****ing tune up.
****ing hater.
Doesn't matter what Marquez is. He hasn't sold has he? And this is supposed to be boxing "cash cow". Only hater here is you.. refusing to aknowledge the high PPV ratings for Hatton fights. Why do you think Mayweather wanted to fight him? It wasn't because he thought he was the best..
Mayweather is a dud and needs others to sell fights, without him riding on the coat tail of a big name he is nothing.. & that's fact.
How well do you think Hatton sells out against a tune up in his hometown.. he packed a soccer stadium.
How well do you think Cotto sells out in Puerto Rico? or Pacquiao in the Filipinese?
Mayweather can't even sell out his hometown.. that's pathetic.
Stop being lazy, how about that? Google, PPV numbers for Mayweather vs Baldomir, Gatti and Zab, you'll see.
so what if im lazy you gave out numbers w/o providing a link