This was a really close fight, neither fighter did anything great enough for me but if I have to lean towards one side, its Diaz for effective punching. I saw Malignaggis head snapping back and twisting from side to side when Diaz would land, where as Malignaggis punches only looked like thumps. Diaz did good work to the body and I dont think I ever saw Malignaggi go to the body. I liked the way Malignaggi was boxing but alot of his punches hit Diaz's gloves or completely missed. Good fight.
I think in order to properly judge this fight , you have to be sitting ringside to see if punches are getting through or not,as it was such a difficult fight to judge.
There is no way Diaz won that fight... Like they said it's ATLEAST a 115-113... You could even argue about a draw if you want to push it.... but no win for Diaz
This was a really close fight, neither fighter did anything great enough for me but if I have to lean towards one side, its Diaz for effective punching. I saw Malignaggis head snapping back and twisting from side to side when Diaz would land, where as Malignaggis punches only looked like thumps. Diaz did good work to the body and I dont think I ever saw Malignaggi go to the body. I liked the way Malignaggi was boxing but alot of his punches hit Diaz's gloves or completely missed. Good fight.
i can respect your decision in scoring it for diaz.
i scored for paulie because of a few simple reasons:
A) he was out punching the known volume puncher (paulie never had a reputation for being a volume puncher of anykind...actually the exact opposite...throwing the least amount of punches needed to win in some cases)
B)The Jab. he used it early, often, and VERY consistantly. more consistant than i've seen him use in a good while. and used it much more than diaz. it gave malignaggi his way.
C) Ring Generalship. Paulie owned that ring. He fought in that ring wherever HE wanted to fight...not where DIAZ wanted him to fight and that goes back to the effectiveness of paulie's jab. without using that jab so much diaz would have easily gotten inside and trapped paulie on the ropes. however that didnt happen.
D) Defense. I liked paulie's defense better. it was a lot more technical than usual. he was doing a little bit of everything, rolling with punches, ducking em, slippin em, blockin em; etc. he was really showing his boxing skill/ability in there. a LOT more of diaz' punches missed or were blocked than the other way around. clearly. many were influenced by the crowds reaction however the crowd was cheering at anything diaz threw.
those are the main basics as to how paulie was able to win that fight.
not to mention at the end of the fight their faces told the tale. diaz had 2 cuts and a slightly swollen head. paulie looked tired but physically fine.
So doesnt it also APPEAR that paulie got the best of him?
i dont get it. paulie does better on compubox (which are FACTS not opinions) and visibly he LOOKS like the winner. and if you know the history of the two fighters and how they like to fight you seen PAULIE forced his style onto diaz on top of it.
i dont get how he didnt win to be honest.
I agree with harold's card from HBO of 115-113 to paulie. only difference between mine and his is that we have different opinions on two rounds. dont remember which they were but one he scored for paulie i scored for diaz and one he scored for diaz i scored for paulie.
while it was a very close fight i felt like the actual decision was clear in that paulie won.
I can't have a problem with people thinking Diaz won a close fight, and I don't think that is the controversy here. The problem is that there is no way that fight was 116-112 for Diaz and nothing else has to be said about 118-110. It looks like the fight was decided ahead of time.
I can't stand watching Mag boy run and hold for a ****ing hour. He is the worst fighter since Spinks to come along and make a joke out of boxing.
I had Diaz winning simply on TRYING to hurt the other guy instead of running and pecking for so long.
Diaz was landing the harder shots but they were few and far between, Paulie was outboxing him and throwing alot more shot but they were mostly jabs that didn't seem to do anythying at all, the only good shot he landed was the uppercut that caused the cut. I do think that Paulie won but for a guy that knew he would be robbed if it was close he should have done alot more.
He did do A LOT more. his work rate trumped diaz by like 33%
This was a really close fight, neither fighter did anything great enough for me but if I have to lean towards one side, its Diaz for effective punching. I saw Malignaggis head snapping back and twisting from side to side when Diaz would land, where as Malignaggis punches only looked like thumps. Diaz did good work to the body and I dont think I ever saw Malignaggi go to the body. I liked the way Malignaggi was boxing but alot of his punches hit Diaz's gloves or completely missed. Good fight.
Excellent evaluation of the fight. Diaz's punches were more effective and that is why he deserved to win
I cant argue with that. I do feel its getting blown out of proportion though thats all, it was an extremely close fight.
it was a very close fight that could have gone either way, but you can't argue that the scorecards didn't reflect this.
I agree, but I have to agree with Paulie that if this fight would have been in another state it might have had more realistic scorecards and a very good chance of him winning this fight, but had he truely felt this way he should have done more.
I cant argue with that. I do feel its getting blown out of proportion though thats all, it was an extremely close fight.
But not always landing with those shots.
Paulie was dictating the pace of the fight but he was not much more effective than Diaz.
I agree, but I have to agree with Paulie that if this fight would have been in another state it might have had more realistic scorecards and a very good chance of him winning this fight, but had he truely felt this way he should have done more. and even with most of Paulie's shots not being effective as well Diaz didn't throw enough shots in alot of rounds to have won them.
This was a really close fight, neither fighter did anything great enough for me but if I have to lean towards one side, its Diaz for effective punching. I saw Malignaggis head snapping back and twisting from side to side when Diaz would land, where as Malignaggis punches only looked like thumps. Diaz did good work to the body and I dont think I ever saw Malignaggi go to the body. I liked the way Malignaggi was boxing but alot of his punches hit Diaz's gloves or completely missed. Good fight.
No No look the fight again! Diaz had his moments but most of his shots missed or
were hit on paulies gloves! But i agree it was a close fight
Diaz has finally learn to box or be more acurate!
Ok i had it a draw. You can't say Paulie won either. I agree with K Larsen, everytime Diaz landed Paulie's head snapped back and around. His pop shot little jabs did absolutely nothing to Juan.
So you Malignaggi fans ask, "Did that cut open up itself??" No, of course it didn't. But if you actually watched the fight they're heads but earlier in the fight and the referee clearly says "Accidental headbutt." Now, I agree, the cut wasn't that big at all at first, but it did open up. Its not rocket science that just one good punch can open up a cut much more. If Paulie landed one good punch on that cut, then thats the reason it opened. But how many times did you see Diaz's head snap back? How many times was he backing up? How many times did Paulie target the body? All i saw were weak jabs that hit Juans gloves. Diaz did have trouble getting his shots in because he was blocking those jabs, but he stayed on the attack and landed MORE power punches and continually had Paulie on the defense. If you want to call it "boxing," go ahead. But either way, Diaz landed the harder, more effective punches. In my eyes, its either a draw or a one-point fight for Diaz.
Agree, it seems me you and the TS are the few people that have not exaggerated on this matter.
I can tell you watched the fight closely because that is exactly what i saw to.
Diaz was landing the harder shots but they were few and far between, Paulie was outboxing him and throwing alot more shot but they were mostly jabs that didn't seem to do anythying at all, the only good shot he landed was the uppercut that caused the cut. I do think that Paulie won but for a guy that new he would be robbed if it was close he should have done alot more.
But not always landing with those shots.
Paulie was dictating the pace of the fight but he was not much more effective than Diaz.
This was a really close fight, neither fighter did anything great enough for me but if I have to lean towards one side, its Diaz for effective punching. I saw Malignaggis head snapping back and twisting from side to side when Diaz would land, where as Malignaggis punches only looked like thumps. Diaz did good work to the body and I dont think I ever saw Malignaggi go to the body. I liked the way Malignaggi was boxing but alot of his punches hit Diaz's gloves or completely missed. Good fight.
Your one of the 2% who had Diaz winning, congrats.
hitting his gloves? really?
so that cut on diaz right eye opened by itself?
Wow....you should replace Harold Lederman from HBO, because he's doing a bad job on the scoring...
Malignaggi Won 115-113 at the least, stop this BS.:thumbsdow
Hey man I didnt say that Malignaggi landed 0 punches. And like I said, it was a close fight, Malignaggi did not do enough for me to lean towards his side, besides his post fight interview. You are crazy by placing the term "at least" at the end of your 115-113 score for Malignaggi, I understand any one going for one side or the other, I just came on here to share my side, but no way in damn hell Malignaggi won by more than a 115-133 score.
Ok i had it a draw. You can't say Paulie won either. I agree with K Larsen, everytime Diaz landed Paulie's head snapped back and around. His pop shot little jabs did absolutely nothing to Juan.
So you Malignaggi fans ask, "Did that cut open up itself??" No, of course it didn't. But if you actually watched the fight they're heads but earlier in the fight and the referee clearly says "Accidental headbutt." Now, I agree, the cut wasn't that big at all at first, but it did open up. Its not rocket science that just one good punch can open up a cut much more. If Paulie landed one good punch on that cut, then thats the reason it opened. But how many times did you see Diaz's head snap back? How many times was he backing up? How many times did Paulie target the body? All i saw were weak jabs that hit Juans gloves. Diaz did have trouble getting his shots in because he was blocking those jabs, but he stayed on the attack and landed MORE power punches and continually had Paulie on the defense. If you want to call it "boxing," go ahead. But either way, Diaz landed the harder, more effective punches. In my eyes, its either a draw or a one-point fight for Diaz.
Diaz was landing the harder shots but they were few and far between, Paulie was outboxing him and throwing alot more shot but they were mostly jabs that didn't seem to do anythying at all, the only good shot he landed was the uppercut that caused the cut. I do think that Paulie won but for a guy that knew he would be robbed if it was close he should have done alot more.