My 90 Min convo with Dan Birmingham

THE_REED16y ago

So I am sitting on the plane in Biloxi waiting to fly back to ATL, and I see a guy coming up the aisle with a shotime hat on... and I'm like hmmmm... he comes up to me and he's like I think Im sitting next to you... so I get up, and I am like... hey, is your name Dan?.. He's like yeah... Im like oh wow.. you're one of my favorite trainers man.. hes like oh really, well thank you... then we sit down. I am like yeah, you and and Buddy McGirt are my favorite trainers, I think you guys give good instructions in the corner. Hes like Thanks!!! Ill try to break down the different topics we talked about... a lot of this stuff isnt exactly in order of how the convo went, but im gonna keep it to each fight and each fighter... we jumped around alot.... I couldnt of possibly remember everything we discussed.. but I do remember all the fighters and topics and how the convos went and what we said.. im sure i left out about 25% of what we talked about, but this is all that I do remember Dan: So you a boxing fan? Me: Oh die hard, die hard boxing fan... I follow every inch of the sport. Dan: Thats awesome.. people like you are few and far between. Me: Yeah I truly love the sport, it's an addiction to me.. Roy Jones-Jeff Lacy Dan: So what did you think of the fight? Is Roy something else or what man? Me: That was incredible... you know as a Roy fan for the last 5 years I am always nervous before a fight, I never know how Roy will show up or how he will look you know... Dan: Oh this fight was all wrong for Jeff... he asked me to work his corner and I refused... he should of retired 3 fights ago.. Me: Really? you felt like this was an easy fight to pick? I felt like Roy SHOULD be able to beat him, but I thought Lacy would of came out quicker and more aggressive.. Dan: Well even if he did, how quick would he have looked against Roy? Me: Well this 40 yr old Roy? I have no idea... the Joe fight was bad, and Sheika didnt prove too much for me... so I didnt know how to feel.. but.. you felt Lacy should of retired already? Dan: Oh definitely... hes already starting to slur his words... we will be in the middle of a convo and he will lose complete train of thought... last night they were stitching him up in the dressing room and he spent 4 hours in the ER last night, doing cat scans and MRI's... they didnt want him to leave... That was a worse beating than Joe gave him.. Me: You think it was worse than Joe huh? Dan: Definitely... see in the Joe fight, Lacy was getting hit a lot but it was never enough to hurt him, every round Lacy came back he would say his power is shit, he cant hurt me... it was just the volume of punches that made it look so bad... but with Roy... Roy was hurting him, he was hurting him bad... I was screaming at the corner from round 6 and on to stop the fight... Jeff was hurt. Me: Yeah his eyes were damn near swollen shut, I was amazed actually... I hope for something like an 8-4 UD, not a 10 round whitewash TKO... Dan: Yeah this fight was all wrong for him, thats why I refused to work the corner.... this morning, Ive never seen Jeff look as bad as he did, when he got to the airport this morning.. it took him an hour to figure out which air line he was even flying out of... he was clueless, didnt really know what was going on and his face was battered this morning. Me: Wow... ok, he needs to retire then... you cant have your thoughts scrambled like that and continue to fight. Dan: Exactly.. life is more prescious than a sport. Roy Jones: Dan: So what did you think of Roy? Me: Oh man! that was amazing! Ill be honest, whether it be him fighting a bum or tarver or Joe... I havent seen him do those things in 8 years... 8 left hooks in a row? Dan: It was amazing... Roy is amazing... one of the greatest fighters Ive ever laid my eyes on... people need to appreciate Roy.. you will never see the things he does from another fighter... once he is gone, thats it.. hes gone, no more highlight reels like that.. Me: Thats exactly why Im here. Dan: Where you from? Me: Erie PA Dan: Oh wow... you flew all the way here just for this fight? Me: Definitely, I was here for Anthony Hanshaw fight too, and Trinidad last year... Dan: You are a die hard fan then. Me: Roy puts on a show, he makes you stand up and scream.. its always worth it for me, I had a blast, and this was the best performance Ive seen yet... THats why Im here though... soon he will be gone, and you wont be able to see him fight anymore, so I want to see it while I can. Dan: Absolutely, Roy is something to behold... did you see that handspeed? Thats amazing, I couldnt believe how fast his hands were, even at 40, he can let off a 15 punch combo faster than anyone in the game... thats unique. Me: My jaw dropped when that happened... I havent seen a combo like that since he was 30. Dan: You know people think Roys broke... such absolute bullshit... earlier this year me and Wink were at a fight, and Roy was there... Roy and Wink were standing next to each other bullshitting about money and investments and I was standing behind them and I heard Roy say that hes got 35 million in the bank, so hes just enjoying the spotlight while he can still do what he can do... Roys not broke, Roys not stupid... hes actually incredibly intelligent, Ive talked to him so many times, hes a very smart person. Me: Well thats great to hear, people always talk shit on him, like "Why is Roy still fighitng, he must be broke" Dan: Roys not close to broke... are you kidding me? Did you hear the collisseum? Chanting his name... he still has it, and he still has the love... people still want to see him, they love to see him.. hell i love to see him.. thats why he is still here, because he is still loved, and he knows it. Me: Absolutely... Im a fan until the end... hey do you think he could beat Jermaine Taylor..? just wonderin, being that Jermain just fought Lacy too.. Dan: Uhh... yeah... I do. Roys still got that speed.. and Jermain isnt going to pressure him too much, Roy could definitely beat Taylor.. He would outbox Taylor, he still has his skills.. even at this stage, those skills are still there, and he still has the energy to use them. Me: So hows Wink man? Whats he doing? He gonna fight anytime soon? Winky Wright: Dan: Winks just chillen right now man, he loves the lifestyle, the clubs and the gambling he loves it... he says hes going to fight again soon, but I really dont know. Me: And im sure they love him back haha.. Dan: haha oh yeah, they sure do. Me: That Paul Williams fight was a rough one. Dan: Yeah definitely, the 2 year lay off didnt help.. but Paul Williams is just a better fighter at this stage, and he seems to keep getting better. Me: Yeah a 6-3 southpaw who throws a 110 punches a round isnt the easiest task Dan: Definitely not. Me: Plus with a fighter like wink.. a defensive fighter, fighting someone who throws so many punches, you find yourself always in defensive mode and can never get off. Dan: Hey man, you do know what you're talkin about... thats exactly right, it was just a bad fight. Me: What were you telling him in the corner against Williams? Dan: You know, just to try and get off more, try to let that left hand go more and give Paul a reason to stop throwing so much... but you know, easier said than done... that fight was a white wash, Wink didnt win a round. Me: Yeah, well... theres not too many fighters out there that are going to beat him right now anyway Dan: no, there certainly isnt (Paul Williams to be discussed later) Dan: You know whats ridiculous with Wink tho, that kid falls into money so easily... just last weekend he won 400 grand playing golf with a lawyer friend of his.. Me: What are you serious? Dan: Yeah, why cant that happen to me... These guys play golf and they bet on every hole, and then the overall winner... Me: Sounds like this lawyer is pretty successful himself. Dan: Oh he is, learjets and everything. Me: So your not sure if Wink will fight again? Im trying to think of some fights he COULD take. Dan: Well we tried to get Pavlik but they ended up going with Williams instead. Me: yeah, I mean at 160 thats pretty much it (forgot to mention sturm).. at 154, Vernon is now gone which is terrible, Kirkland is locked up... what about Martinez? Dan: Winky loses that fight... I know you are talking about, that Martinez kid can fight seriously, real slick, real fast... Winkys 38 man, thats too much at this stage... Me: Really 38 huh, I knew he was getting up there but I didnt think he was 38 yet... Dan: oh yeah... we ll just have to see, Im not sure what he "really" wants to do, he says he ll fight again, but I just dont know.. Me: right right...

Comments (20)

BennyST

Who has beaten better competition at 168 lbs than Kessler? Maybe Froch, but certainly not Reed, Dirrell, Abraham, or Taylor. Not even Froch in my opinion. I really do think Kessler has the best resume by far at 168. Despite all the retards that think any Euro fighter doesn't equal anyone good he actually has quite a lot of champion (current and former) as well as good top contenders on there. Better than anyone else's pretty easily me thinks. Froch only really has Taylor and Pascall. Both good but no better than any of the guys on Kessler's. Oh and Street Bully, he (Calzonie) may not have a great resume by Robinson's standards but he has one of the best resume's of the past ten/twenty years. Like it or not he fought some great fighters, a lot of champions and never lost. It is what it is.

16y ago

PBDS

....Reed, I did several mortgages for Dan's brother, who was a bit of a loser. It was probably ten years ago when I was working with him. He followed boxing but wasn't in the business with his brother at all really.

16y ago

johnm_is

Damn kid. I'm all for bending the truth when it suits you but there comes a point when you can't bend something too far or it breaks. I'm surprised it took this long for someone to come up with this idea.

16y ago

THE_REED

Damn kid. I'm all for bending the truth when it suits you but there comes a point when you can't bend something too far or it breaks. :rofl: You're right Dan... I took it too far.

16y ago

The_Gully_Gad

I enjoyed that Reed...

16y ago

supRa

Wow lucky guy..... Good stuff bro Read the whloe thing..... U forgot to ask him about charliez... hahahah.... Jkjk Thanks for sharin...

16y ago

Wright606

Winky sounds done that sucks

16y ago

Danny_Gunz

Your opinion.. means nothing. Mangler can cosign for me, he was on the same plane... You dont have to believe anything. ok, im just saying i dont believe it... its nothing personal its just all the answers and conversation points by him seem so generic and made up. if you did actually talk to him then good for you, then im just an idiot

16y ago

THE_REED

you made this shit up Your opinion.. means nothing. Mangler can cosign for me, he was on the same plane... You dont have to believe anything.

16y ago

Danny_Gunz

On top of the fact, I was sort of in shock he had Joe Calzaghes resume on par with Roys... But he did... thats what he said. He thought Joe was the greatest fighter of this generation. Please.... tell me I "made" this shit up. you made this shit up

16y ago

THE_REED

I agree with you... Dan did say, he didnt think Joe could beat Roy in Roys prime, but that it would be close, and Joe would give him a fight. That's how he saw it though... I wasn't going to argue.

16y ago

street_bully

He talked how Joe was a very underrated fighter and doesnt get the credit for his talent that he deserves. He said he beat a lot of Euro's, but a lot of very good solid credible fighters too... He thought Joes style, was very hard to beat.. and he said he always fought with heart, he was never willing to lose. He had a lot to say about Joe, but he liked Roy just as much... he liked them equally. I mean Joe is good and all, but he in the opinon of many could have lost to Hopkins, which while still defensive is not very offensive anymore. Personally It is pretty obvious that Joe loses to a younger fresher Hopkins, and Jones would just have been way to fast for him and tricky.

16y ago

THE_REED

You sure Dan wasn't high? I mean Calzaghe's resume is not great at all. He talked how Joe was a very underrated fighter and doesnt get the credit for his talent that he deserves. He said he beat a lot of Euro's, but a lot of very good solid credible fighters too... He thought Joes style, was very hard to beat.. and he said he always fought with heart, he was never willing to lose. He had a lot to say about Joe, but he liked Roy just as much... he liked them equally.

16y ago

street_bully

16y ago

THE_REED

Go ahead. Means nothing. Matter of fact, you can ask Mangler... He was ON THE SAME PLANE that we were. On top of the fact, I was sort of in shock he had Joe Calzaghes resume on par with Roys... But he did... thats what he said. He thought Joe was the greatest fighter of this generation. Please.... tell me I "made" this shit up.

16y ago

Danny_Gunz

Why? Reed's a well respect poster around here ; we all knew he was going to Biloxi before he even left, and he mentioned having a conversation with Birmingham and told us he was going to make a thread about it before he created this. Just speculation, he could very well be right and i wouldnt be suprised at all if he actually did i was wrong, im just saying

16y ago

ringer

idk about anyone else but im gonna have to call bullshit on that convo Why? Reed's a well respect poster around here ; we all knew he was going to Biloxi before he even left, and he mentioned having a conversation with Birmingham and told us he was going to make a thread about it before he created this.

16y ago

THE_REED

idk about anyone else but im gonna have to call bullshit on that convo Go ahead. Means nothing. Matter of fact, you can ask Mangler... He was ON THE SAME PLANE that we were.

16y ago

Danny_Gunz

idk about anyone else but im gonna have to call bullshit on that convo

16y ago

ringer

Interesting shit, Reed. Thanks for sharing it with us all.

16y ago