Translated interview from today's Journel de Montreal:
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* Claims she agreed with the 2nd autopsy and claims she wants to return to Montreal to meet with Gatti's family.
* She also doesn't understand why Gatti's friends/family find it amazing that she is the primnary beneficairy of the will and refutes she was recipient of $US1 million life-insurance.
* States no-one from The Gatti family have attempted to make contact with her or her family
* Confirms that Arturo struggled with depression, drink and drugs more than any of his friends or family were aware of.
One of the last photos of Arturo & Amanda Gatti from Paris in June 2009:
http://www.canoe.com/archives/infos/societe/media/2009/08/20090813-052000-g.jpg
Either she's totally loco and has a lot of nerve...or she's 100% innocent.
it almost seems impossible to believe gatti killed himself..
nothing is impossible, however Arturo's death has too many unanswered questions to simply let it lie at suicide.
Then she's playing a very clever game with everyone.
Ha!
i think this is the only thing i can agree with you on!
i knew there was something that we were going to to see eye to eye on.
everything else my friend, is still debateable
i know this is an old post i am responding to, but i just did a search on amanda and all these posts came up, i am a dollar short, a day late
Suicide is out of the question. especially by a ****ing string from a handbag! Bitch did it to get his money. I hope she dies a cruel death.
Case in point, re: the 3rd theory.
I'm pretty sure Amanda is innocent...and this is a totally different personal viewpoint to that I had 3 weeks ago...but I've read the facts that've been released...I've read what Gatti's managers and friends have said and I've read and heard Amanda's interviews - all explaining their side of the story.
I've also spoken to someone who worked in forensics labs and she continued education classes there to keep their lab license. She said they hammered the '120lb-woman-killing-the-full-grown-man' theory to death in these classes.
Why?
Because when the man dies in a situation where he is involved in a tumultuous relationship with a woman the woman is ALWAYS suspect #1 with the police.
Her forensic team had to figure out what the hell happens to the man to cause his death. In an instance where the man hasn't been shot, stabbed, poisoned or hit over the head, the first thing they do is figure out the weight of his partner and see if they can react the strangulation with her exact weight against his (and remember, with Gatti, just because he was drinking doesn't mean he couldn't have fought her off.)
Anyway, however, women are NOT physically strong enough to strangle grown men as a usual rule of thumb according to the forensic team. Once in awhile a woman is tall enough and strong enough to take on a grown man, but it is highly unusual according to the forensic teams research. Believe it or not, this situation is not as rare as you might imagine. That is why they went over it so much.
Theory #1: Amanda Rodrigues strangled and then hanged Arturo Gatti? No.
So, with that out of the way, this leads us to 'she-got-in-one-or-more-men-to-help-her'. So, you're telling me, two thugs off the street, gained entry to their apartment, knocked Gatti unconsious then looked around and thought, "hey, look: there's a purse. Let's cut the strap off, strangle him, then hang him and it makes it look like a suicide".
Yeah, like, they really thought that one out on the spot, right there.
Wrong: cab driver #1 that waited to get paid, cab driver #2 that bought Gatti back for the last time AND the security-guard at Ancorar resort (and you know full-well, an upmarket place like that has security-guards): all three confirmed to police that they saw Arturo and Amanda go upstairs together.
Theory #2: Amanda Rodrigues and/or other men strangled and then hanged Arturo Gatti? No.
I guess that leaves a morose, drunken Gatti seeing what he did to his wife, realising he'd left little Jr in the apartment on his own, experiencing a mob abusing him for his actions and with the possibility that his wife, who weeks before he'd renewed his marriage vows with in Paris....would finally leave him and take Jr back to Brazil for good.
I reckon that'd get anyone down.
What really is disturbing too, is this general opinion aming boxing fans that 'Gatti-was-such-a-warrior-he'd-never-kill-himself' train of thought...from Chuck Zito to Mickey Rourke to the thousands that have had this weird 'man-crush' on Arturo. I keep reading about this over-the-top macho character they wanted Gatti to be.
This real live superhero.
Superhero's don't get all drunk and end it all in seaside resorts in Brazil. (yeah, they don't get strangled by women with purse-straps, either)
Theory #3: Arturo Gatti hangs himself with rucksack strap (after first using a steak-knife to cut handbag strap which he put around his neck and attempted-but-failed first time - hence blood on strap and knife on floor)? Like Penry, the mild-mannered janitor aka Hong-Kong Phooey would say: "Couuldd be!!!!"
Furthermore...we now hear the 2nd autopsy results may take months to complete and be known.
WTF?
It does not take months - Michael Jackson's was done in a day and results released in a week.
Methinks the Canadians can't find jack-sh!t to point the finger at Amanda Rodrigues and they're stalling, bigtime.
My gut feeling tells me this is a set up. To people saying that ''She was crying'' and such. This woman who put a hit on her husband cried when the police told her her husband had been murdered. To her surprise it was a set up and she now faces prison.
Human beings can be callous, things like tears and words mean nothing a guilty person isn't going to behave guilty.
According to witnesses at the bar/restaurant:
* During their loud argument, Gatti half-picked Amanda up by her chin and threw her to the ground one-handed.
* a hotel-security came to see what was going on and intervene and Gatti tagged him flush in the face.
* people nearby started angrily shouting and some started throwing stones and rocks at Gatti, one of which struck him on the back of the head.
* Gatti got into a cab with his Jr, leaving Amanda there (the blood from his head was found on this 1st cab that he took - DNA tested)
* the manager of the restaurant requested Amanda another cab - when she got to the apartment she had to wait for Arturo to pay the cab because she didn't have money with he...but Arturo wasn't there (he'd left Jr by himself inside and went back to the restaurant to pick up Amanda - by the way on the 2nd cab the he took was his blood as well)
* Gatti arrived back at apartment, paid both cabs, he and Amanda both went inside the flat.
Following that, and depending on what you believe, Gatti died sometime between 2am and 4am.
Than he was a lot stronger than I thought if he could do that while terribly drunk and holding a baby.
Allegedly he was beating his wife Joey Gamache style.
I bet she was just pushed down that's it.
He was after all drunk and one handed.According to witnesses at the bar/restaurant:
* During their loud argument, Gatti half-picked Amanda up by her chin and threw her to the ground one-handed.
* a hotel-security came to see what was going on and intervene and Gatti tagged him flush in the face.
* people nearby started angrily shouting and some started throwing stones and rocks at Gatti, one of which struck him on the back of the head.
* Gatti got into a cab with his Jr, leaving Amanda there (the blood from his head was found on this 1st cab that he took - DNA tested)
* the manager of the restaurant requested Amanda another cab - when she got to the apartment she had to wait for Arturo to pay the cab because she didn't have money with he...but Arturo wasn't there (he'd left Jr by himself inside and went back to the restaurant to pick up Amanda - by the way on the 2nd cab the he took was his blood as well)
* Gatti arrived back at apartment, paid both cabs, he and Amanda both went inside the flat.
Following that, and depending on what you believe, Gatti died sometime between 2am and 4am.
Im confused, why the hell were people throwing rocks at Gatti again?
Allegedly he was beating his wife Joey Gamache style.
I bet she was just pushed down that's it.
He was after all drunk and one handed.
The major issues I have with this are:
- Gatti's death goes from crime scene to suicide.
- It's initially reported Amanda gave conflicting statements on the happenings and this is what got her locked up to begin with.
- Amanda tries to suggest a break in and killing originally... not this 'he was depressed' shit.
- The multiple accounts of her trying to get her hands on Arturo's money (that include Gatti's legal rep speaking on this).
- The bizarre stance of insisting Arturo break all contact with his 3 year old daughter. This speaks selfishness and apathy in volumes to me. There is no good character trait I can spin on this to add to Amanda's now public profile.
Just because she is squeezing out some tears now does not make all of that go away.
Some very good points.
They got Dr. Michael Baden from HBO's Autopsy to do the second autopsy. He is supposed to be the best in the biz. He's already stated that the second autopsy doesn't rule out homicide and the first autopsy was incomplete and there were injuries that weren't even cited in the original forensic report. I'm anxious to know what the full report will reveal. I hope his family will finally get some sort of closure when it's all said and done.I'm guessing the secondary wounds will be the rocks/stones thrown at Gatti by the crowd and the toxicology report won't show anything drastic...just how much alcohol he'd been drinking on the night in comparison to how much was added during the embalming process.
Long wait to find out though....months.
They got Dr. Michael Baden from HBO's Autopsy to do the second autopsy. He is supposed to be the best in the biz. He's already stated that the second autopsy doesn't rule out homicide and the first autopsy was incomplete and there were injuries that weren't even cited in the original forensic report. I'm anxious to know what the full report will reveal. I hope his family will finally get some sort of closure when it's all said and done.
check out her smile in that pic
she genuinely loves Gatti
there's no way she's guilty
lol
U would be no good in a court of law then...
Anyone can fake a smile...
Latest? The coroner's report on the 2nd autopsy could take months, not weeks for a final decision to be made...
http://fr.canoe.ca/journaldemontreal/
(translation required and the link: 'Autopsie d'Arturo Gatti - Un vrai casse-tête')
The major issues I have with this are:
1 - Gatti's death goes from crime scene to suicide.
2 - It's initially reported Amanda gave conflicting statements on the happenings and this is what got her locked up to begin with.
3 - Amanda tries to suggest a break in and killing originally... not this 'he was depressed' shit.
4 - The multiple accounts of her trying to get her hands on Arturo's money (that include Gatti's legal rep speaking on this).
5 - The bizarre stance of insisting Arturo break all contact with his 3 year old daughter. This speaks selfishness and apathy in volumes to me. There is no good character trait I can spin on this to add to Amanda's now public profile.
Just because she is squeezing out some tears now does not make all of that go away.Yeah, there's a lot of issues that haven't been cleared up or addressed.
1 - That's the Keystone Kops / media's fault.
2 - Hours after the death, she claimed a third-party must have come in and done it. When police made their initial statement to the press, they said no-one else could've entered and electronic-card records showed only Arturo and Amanda entered.
That's why they arrested her on the spot.
The coroner's report suggested a possible suicide a couple of days after and the police started to get all antsy.
(don't forget, she is in jail while all this is going on)
The final verdict comes in as suicide. She is released and is told of the verdict and obviously puts 2+2 together, i.e. "well, he was showing signs of depression, but..."
3 - See 2, above.
4 - "It is more than normal that my husband had a will done, and that me and my son were the main beneficiaries on that will. His family was me and Junior. Strange would be if in that will he would have included another woman or his brothers, for instance. I was his wife, not his girlfriend. I never heard of any father that has a family putting brothers and sisters as beneficiaries. What really bothers Arturo's family is not the fact that he is not here anymore, or the reason why he is not here. It's the simple fact that they are not included in the will. I know that even after the private autopsy, when it is proven for the second time that I did not do any harm to my husband, they will still be against me, claiming and fighting in the expectation of receiving anything regarding Arturo's estate.
I also want to make clear that Arturo's daughter, Sofia Bella Gatti, has her future guaranteed. Arturo would never let anything miss for his daughter. The will explains with details what she gets. Sofia Bella Gatti owns two accounts — one for her college fund, and another as her trust account."
5 - "Regarding Arturo not being present in Sofia's life, that has nothing to do with me. The problems that he had with Sofia's family started way before I met him. Arturo was supervised and monitored during all the visits that he made to his daughter. As a dad, he felt uncomfortable with that situation. This issue and other problems that he had with his daughter's mother changed his behaviour toward his daughter. Obviously he loved her, but he had to deal with a lot of drama to see Sofia. I have documents for attorneys that can prove what I am stating. Also, Arturo did want to have more contact and a closer relationship with his daughter. Everyone that doesn't know the story and even some that do know just find it convenient and easier to blame me for all the problems, but the reality is very different. I never asked Arturo or his family members (who also had no contact with his daughter) to stop seeing his daughter, because before anything I am still a mother."
6 - True, but at least she's showing some emotion and opening up about it and trying to clear up things that people are saying.
Or maybe we should be waiting for her out on the town, nightclubbing with a new guy?
The major issues I have with this are:
- Gatti's death goes from crime scene to suicide.
- It's initially reported Amanda gave conflicting statements on the happenings and this is what got her locked up to begin with.
- Amanda tries to suggest a break in and killing originally... not this 'he was depressed' shit.
- The multiple accounts of her trying to get her hands on Arturo's money (that include Gatti's legal rep speaking on this).
- The bizarre stance of insisting Arturo break all contact with his 3 year old daughter. This speaks selfishness and apathy in volumes to me. There is no good character trait I can spin on this to add to Amanda's now public profile.
Just because she is squeezing out some tears now does not make all of that go away.
she did it.. anyone who thinks otherwise hasnt seen what women are capable of
no one stabs themself in the back of the head and hangs themself. no one is in a house with their husband/wife and doesnt notice they are dead for 10 hours on a honeymoonClassic. :rofl:
The Gatti Family bash her - she bashes The Gatti Family: who do you believe?
Your favorite boxer who gave you great fights, never gave up but had 'issues' outside the ring?
Or a young, immature Brasilera who 'used' to dance to support herself while she was studying in New Jersey? She originally comes from a decent family in Brazil.
If she was such a bad woman, why would Gatti have signed over his will to her? Why would he have renewed his marriage vows with her weeks before his death? WHY?
And if the answer is: 'Gatti wasn't of sound-mind and had problems to even consider doing that with this whore', then by logic, you can argue that same state of mind could've contributed to suicide.
Sorry, but she's been cleared once - she maybe cleared a second time...by CANADIAN authorities....so what does that leave you with?
An innocent woman who's struggling to get her head around this like everyone else and may just have had her life irrevocably changed.
IF, however, that 2nd autopsy comes back as 'foul-play'....well, then we're entering a whole new phase of this messy affair, and it's 'Game On'.
JCHING - by Brasileria standards, a solid 8 out of 10.
I don't know what to think. She sounds innocent and I want to believe she had no part in his death, but there is alot more evidence to suggest she did. One thing I do know is she's f***ing hott..