When asking this question the following names come to mind:
Hector Camacho, J.
Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr
Jeffrey Jordan
...................add more if you feel like it!!!
I know most of these athletes that achieve greatness were born with a God given talent, but wouldn't you think that there fathers, or mothers, training would give them a good push in the right direction? Or is it that these type of athletes only come around once in a lifetime...and genetics really doesn't matter in some cases?
I'd consider the money and comfort they've got all their life as a one thing. That said they don't need to truly make them up to great fighters to make good living a certainty.
Also they might buy up to the hype, lose respect and forget the importance of humbleness.
I'd say being a child of any champion is as much a curse than a gift, where you're being put under a great pressure for proving yourselves and your family's legacy.
Once their parents made it, kids no longer have that hunger. Unless they got love for the sport.
This is true, rich kids get it easy. Pressure and not having things their own way isn't something they're good at handling. They're have no idea of how to survive because they have had no struggles. There is probably a few exceptions to the rule but I can't name any off the top of my head.
"Where there is hunger, you will find champions"- Chris Johnson.
These kids don't have the hunger. Most of them are spoiled. Boxing is not a sport for the spoiled kids. It's a sport for the hungry ones. The spoiled ones just pay to watch, whereas, the hungry ones fight.
athletic genetics are one thing, and are fairly common. but not everyone can truly understand and master the sport, and not everyone has the drive that others do to succeed.
a LOT matters in boxing, and be athletic is only one part of it
and on the flip side, there's Floyd Mayweather JR and Roy Jones Jr.
cory spinks too
All these reasons are fairly valid, but if you look at all these guys especially Marvis Frazier. They attempt to fight like there parent even if it doesn't suit them.
Marvis Frazier was alot better at boxing that brawling but Joe tried to mould him in his style, Julio Cesar Chavez is pretty tall for a Jr. WW maybe he should be boxing instead of mixing it up on the inside?
Yeah trying to fight like there father is a mistake. They need to learn there own style, and get pointers from their father.
All these reasons are fairly valid, but if you look at all these guys especially Marvis Frazier. They attempt to fight like there parent even if it doesn't suit them.
Marvis Frazier was alot better at boxing that brawling but Joe tried to mould him in his style, Julio Cesar Chavez is pretty tall for a Jr. WW maybe he should be boxing instead of mixing it up on the inside?
You make a good point! JCC Jr does have a good record, and I guess sometimes we do expect to much. I just wish he could fight the opposition his father did, but then again he is still young.
Yeah see that's the thing. If you look at JCC's record, he fought like 40 some odd nobodys before recognizable names start showing up.
I'm not saying JCC Jr. will be as good or better than his dad by any means, but it is interesting how many almost view his career as a failure already.
Floyd Mayweather is better than his father ever was.
Maybe it's not their problem, it's perception.
It is extremely rare to become a celebrity athlete like the ones mentioned in the thread, so to expect someone to become as great as their father at a sport is asking a lot.
Our expectations are too high. If no one knew who Julio Cesar Chavez was, you'd say "Damn who's this Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.? Dude is 39-0 with 29 KOs and he's only 23!"
See what I mean.
You make a good point! JCC Jr does have a good record, and I guess sometimes we do expect to much. I just wish he could fight the opposition his father did, but then again he is still young.
Floyd Mayweather is better than his father ever was.
Maybe it's not their problem, it's perception.
It is extremely rare to become a celebrity athlete like the ones mentioned in the thread, so to expect someone to become as great as their father at a sport is asking a lot.
Our expectations are too high. If no one knew who Julio Cesar Chavez was, you'd say "Damn who's this Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.? Dude is 39-0 with 29 KOs and he's only 23!"
See what I mean.
athletic genetics are one thing, and are fairly common. but not everyone can truly understand and master the sport, and not everyone has the drive that others do to succeed.
a LOT matters in boxing, and be athletic is only one part of it
and on the flip side, there's Floyd Mayweather JR and Roy Jones Jr.
Good points! Not everyone has the same drive and motivation.
the chances of hitting that same blend of genetics, mixed with the right environment are so remote the chances of it happening twice in one family are never going to be good.
look at it the other way.. most famous athletes are infinitely better athletes than their parents were
Good points! I do think that living up to their fathers name should be enough motivation, but then again if they have everything they might be spoiled and might not care about achieving what their parents did.
The desire to succeed is derived from unfavorable circumstances such as poverty.
Chances are they already have everything, so what could possibly motivate them other than glory?
Makes a lot of sense! I can really relate to this as well. As you said, having everything makes a huge difference.
maybe because its due to the high expectations they get. and since their parents are famous they would have the spotlight on them earlier making it hard for them to bounce back if they fail or encounter a stumbling block. also what the previous post said. maybe they no dont have the same hunger as their parent. being that they were raised pampered and rich.
the chances of hitting that same blend of genetics, mixed with the right environment are so remote the chances of it happening twice in one family are never going to be good.
look at it the other way.. most famous athletes are infinitely better athletes than their parents were
athletic genetics are one thing, and are fairly common. but not everyone can truly understand and master the sport, and not everyone has the drive that others do to succeed.
a LOT matters in boxing, and be athletic is only one part of it
and on the flip side, there's Floyd Mayweather JR and Roy Jones Jr.
The desire to succeed is derived from unfavorable circumstances such as poverty.
Chances are they already have everything, so what could possibly motivate them other than glory?